Would you care if they would race doped?

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6/7/2018 7:56 AM

ando wrote:

So your child shows promise as a potential pro motocross racer. You invest time and money into their development and they win ...more

billyp330 wrote:

I would if i carefully studied it and asked doctors about it to make sure its deemed safe. If it wasn't safe then the team ...more

Donovan759 wrote:

apples and oranges man.. you're really out there on this one.

Please explain the difference

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2015 Ninja 1000

6/7/2018 8:00 AM

billyp330 wrote:

I would if i carefully studied it and asked doctors about it to make sure its deemed safe. If it wasn't safe then the team ...more

Donovan759 wrote:

apples and oranges man.. you're really out there on this one.

billyp330 wrote:

Please explain the difference

between moto and drugs?

Okay.

Moto: Hobby. You take the chance of harming your body.

Drugs: Not a hobby. They are harmful to your body.

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6/7/2018 8:09 AM
Edited Date/Time: 6/7/2018 8:10 AM

Donovan759 wrote:

apples and oranges man.. you're really out there on this one.

billyp330 wrote:

Please explain the difference

Donovan759 wrote:

between moto and drugs?

Okay.

Moto: Hobby. You take the chance of harming your body.

Drugs: Not a hobby. They are harmful ...more

By drugs i think you mean PEDs which are designed for the sole purpose of helping and improving your body, but do still have a chance of harming your body. So really the breakdown is this:

Moto: Take the chance of harming your body for the amazing high you get while riding and racing.

PEDs: Take a chance of harming your body for the ultimate high you get while being the very best you can be while riding and racing.

assuming PEDs actually improve your riding.

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2015 Ninja 1000

6/7/2018 8:15 AM

No on doping, yes on LIMITED testing. Test for the top 50 enhancing (and hard drugs like blow) drugs and let it be.

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6/7/2018 8:19 AM

billyp330 wrote:

Please explain the difference

Donovan759 wrote:

between moto and drugs?

Okay.

Moto: Hobby. You take the chance of harming your body.

Drugs: Not a hobby. They are harmful ...more

billyp330 wrote:

By drugs i think you mean PEDs which are designed for the sole purpose of helping and improving your body, but do still have a ...more

Yes.. By "Drugs" I mean PED's or "Performance Enhancing Drugs". It seems like your confused on what that stands for.

Shoot up and send it billybro.

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6/7/2018 8:30 AM

Donovan759 wrote:

between moto and drugs?

Okay.

Moto: Hobby. You take the chance of harming your body.

Drugs: Not a hobby. They are harmful ...more

billyp330 wrote:

By drugs i think you mean PEDs which are designed for the sole purpose of helping and improving your body, but do still have a ...more

Donovan759 wrote:

Yes.. By "Drugs" I mean PED's or "Performance Enhancing Drugs". It seems like your confused on what that stands for.

Shoot ...more

Please reread my post and then you'll understand what they stand for and the whole reason why they exist in the first place. Your logic is skewed by your irrational belief that "Drugs" are bad no matter what the drugs are. And for the record i dont take any drugs at all. I just dont have any desire to be out of my mind high and i like the challenge of pushing my body to its own limits in my own natural way. In other words i dont feel a need for any enhancements as im happy so far with everything. If one day i decide i wanna push further for any reason then its my choice to weigh the risk/reward and decide.

LOL not a good look for me

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6/7/2018 8:37 AM

billyp330 wrote:

By drugs i think you mean PEDs which are designed for the sole purpose of helping and improving your body, but do still have a ...more

Donovan759 wrote:

Yes.. By "Drugs" I mean PED's or "Performance Enhancing Drugs". It seems like your confused on what that stands for.

Shoot ...more

billyp330 wrote:

Please reread my post and then you'll understand what they stand for and the whole reason why they exist in the first place. ...more

I honestly did read it thoroughly and I do understand your thought process & where you're coming from. I guess I just disagree with your logic on the topic.

Also, I agree. Bad look for you. Stay off the roids bro. laughing

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6/7/2018 8:43 AM

let them all do it and the best will still win. look at Armstrong.

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6/7/2018 10:46 AM

I believe if its found naturally, it should be legal, whether classified as a drug or not. Caffeine, psilosybin, the 'coca' leaf, its all 'natural'. LSD and other 'drugs' (ped's), made by humans in a lab? Not natural, therefore banned!

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6/7/2018 10:47 AM

peelout wrote:

let them all do it and the best will still win. look at Armstrong.

x2

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4/11/2019 3:33 PM

If I see these results from this poll, I can't wrap my head around the fact that so much of you are going along with the "Blame the FIM" game.

About Anthony West, he should've checked WADA they do the drug test for the FIM and are always up to date. Then he would've knew that his pre-work-out drink wasn't legal and there wouldn't be any problem. A. West blames his sis, the FIM for the website not being up-to-date. But he could've found the rules if he wanted.

About Broc Tickle, he checked positive for the same product then Anthony West, so the chances are that both used a pre-work-out drink or some other product from a firm that uses "5-methylhexan-2-amine" as energy booster. And for a professional athlete drinking a pro work out or something that you aren't sure about isn't always smart.

A theory I have is that he knew that 5-methylhexan-2-amine was legal on "non game days". So that he used 5-methylhexan-2-amine as energy booster to come through the hard training days with Aldon. But that due to a illness the 5-methylhexan-2-amine from the trainings week stayed in his system till his Saturday evening. Using it as extra help on training days isn't illegal. Like you can read on the link I embedded. Just search: 5-methylhexan-2-amine.

So instead of saying: I didn't used it, he could say I used it as extra energy booster because training with Aldon wrecked me. And then go on a search with some medics and his lawyers what illnesses slowdown your kidney and liver function.

Now the thing were we CAN BLAME the FIM! They should've handled all this cases already a long time ago, and not WADA but the FIM should do, or help WADA in doing the sentencing. Because like already said by others here, we aren't a Olympic sport so 4 years isn't really based on something in our sport.

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4/11/2019 4:27 PM

Donovan759 wrote:

between moto and drugs?

Okay.

Moto: Hobby. You take the chance of harming your body.

Drugs: Not a hobby. They are harmful ...more

what do you count as a drug? Aspirin is a drug. Caffine is a drug.

Where does your definition end? When it becomes illegal? Well, that is also just an arbitrary classification that could change in the future. Technically, at one point in history, heroin was perfectly legal.

Half the crap on the banned substance list isnt actually some major performance enhancer. Ibueprofen isnt going to give me the same advantages as sticking a needle full of EPO into my butt, yet they are both illegal.

Its naive to think that the world is a static entity and that our knowledge of science/athletic performance wont increase to where we know that certain substances arent actually bad for you in the long term. I mean, it wasnt until the last decade or so that we realized concussions are reeaaallllyyy bad for you. We used to brush those off as a simple knock on the head.

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4/11/2019 5:09 PM

EPO should definitely be banned. It’s dangerous and would put any rider at a serious advantage, especially outdoors.

JS7 being banned for adderal was stupid.

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4/11/2019 6:48 PM

GuyB wrote:

We need to start a poll school.

I came here for the “Yes” “No” option.

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4/11/2019 7:22 PM

Thad said the new thing is doing rabies.....



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4/12/2019 2:42 AM

MXMattii wrote:

What if in a delusional, parallel universe MXSports and FELD comes together tomorrow and they choose to drop the USADA and ...more

I think my biggest concern is that people like you are allowed to start a poll about shit...

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4/12/2019 7:01 AM

BigMunster wrote:

I think my biggest concern is that people like you are allowed to start a poll about shit...

Explain how talking about doping is shit...

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4/12/2019 5:05 PM

I voted "other".

In a professional sport, I don't give half a shit if someone uses PEDs. They know the risks involved and its their health/life they are potentially putting at risk.

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4/12/2019 5:07 PM

They have a stock and modified class for bikes, why not a stock and modified class for riders too?

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4/12/2019 7:15 PM

Anything that might force young kids to feel pressure or worse the parents to pressure their kids to take something to be competitive is a horrible idea.

You’ve already got families mortgaging everything for a ridiculous shot at a ridiculous sport with so little chance of real sustained success even if you “make it”, you think they wouldn’t be tempted to jab little Johnny with the juice? Fuck that.

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4/12/2019 9:32 PM

kb228 wrote:

I think the list of banned substances is too long. Banning IVs for hydration and the stuff tickle was suspended for is stupid. ...more

roninho wrote:

Banning iv's is stupid?

Either you use an iv with medical reason (dehydration) and in that case you are not alowed to race ...more

Gus wrote:

This....Believe it. Running in 1-2 liters of fluid with some IV vitamins while waiting for moto 2 on a 100 degree day would be ...more

I think that it'd be good for the sanctioning body to provide IV hydration at any race where the heat index is above a certain level. Make it uniform, and make it free, so no one is at any disadvantage or gets something "extra". It'd be a great step towards being proactive in dealing with heat stress issues.

As for PEDs, I think that the "banned" list should be products that have significant health risks, not just anything that makes you perform better. To me, the reason for banning a substance should be because you don't want others to have to risk shortening their lives simply because one of the competitors is willing to in order to win. As someone said earlier, there are already plenty of risks in racing without subjecting the riders to more of them.

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4/13/2019 12:02 AM

Let em smoke the chronic. Your all bitching about the speeds being too fast. They'll all be laughing and pitting for a dew from cotton mouth then going out scared to go over 10-15 mph.....

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4/13/2019 12:44 AM

Policing drug use today seems to be sensitive enough to catch extremely low levels of use enough for riders to claim unintended contact through supplements ala Tickle.

It’s the penalty system that needs to be fixed. Quick fair adjudication enough to discourage cheats but not damage a career beyond reason.

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4/13/2019 1:49 AM

Other: All of the above in the poll.

It's the judicial system that needs fixing,

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4/13/2019 8:29 AM

PED, performance enhancing drug. That should be enough to stop the conversation there.

It is giving an advantage. Most of these things arent probably as safe as they are led to believe. Additionally, they are a quick fix, a shortcut, to be better while competing. The long term effects cant truly be judged for years.

Say they make them legal and the latest and greatest drug/supplement comes out, what happens when it costs too much that only the elite racers, say top 3 or top 5 can afford it? Then there is an even bigger advantage for those riders over other riders, not to mention privateers, that cant afford said PEDs.

I was raised to work hard for something if i wanted it. At what point in time did we decide that cheating and taking shortcut was acceptable? Probably when the pussification of Americs came along.

Billy, get a grip on reality. Or better yet, start taking allthese supplements and get back to us in 30 years and let us know how you are doing.

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4/13/2019 3:56 PM

Momma give me my medicine,

Momma give me my medicine,

Momma give me my medicine

THAT MAKE ME FEEL LIKE A TALL TREE!!!!


If I'd known of epo in 2000 I'd slammed it like a lance on alpduez just to race 40+ at LL

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