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Watching old SX races lately. The guys had to have a lot more skill and talent to race those 250 2-strokes. I know not all Manufacturers make 250's anymore and a lot of you guys are going to say I'm beating a dead horse by bringing this topic up. But you have to admit they had to have more skill to ride those bikes, especially in Supercross. You had to be pinned on a 250 on those slick tracks to make the triple out of a turn. Nowadays the 450's are so rider friendly and powerful that you gas it on the base of a triple and you could over-jump... These guys can't ride these 450's to their full potential as they are, they're too powerful. The only time they go past second gear is the whoops, unless they jump through them like cowards. (another topic I'd rather avoid)
I just think it would help the actual racing of the sport. Also less crashes would occur being sort of restricted on power so you can't make that quad with a blip of the throttle like they do now. Just a thought.
I just think it would help the actual racing of the sport. Also less crashes would occur being sort of restricted on power so you can't make that quad with a blip of the throttle like they do now. Just a thought.
As for this topic, its seriously beaten into the ground. 250s are a thing of the past like air cooled engines.
The Shop
I could do without the kids on 50's and chicks trying on riding gear to win something drop those add in 125's in a one moto main format.
feeder class into the 250 f west / east category
A 125 class would be good but we won't see one and a 250 two stroke class would be pointless.
If nobody buys four strokes, they'll quit making them.
.... and per the "science of supercross"
Have a broader torque curve....
Which helps mere mortals like us navigate practice track(s) obstacles or pros on a SX track.
I know it helps me. I would use my RMZ to get the timing down on some areas w/ a few sight laps. Then break out the rm to feel comfortable after I knew what speed or line selection was needed.
Pit Row
Its' not all about the peak power its also about the ride getting there, i.e. the curve.
And as someone else said, speak with your wallet and buy 2 strokes if youre really that into them.
The real problem with it is they have it packed with commercials, which pisses people off. Then to top it off, they keep raising prices to where the average person stops going and the stadiums have started getting empty. I would think that a sold out stadium at $15-50 depending on seats would be better than one less than half full at $40-150. More concessions and shirts sold as well. And I don't know how much they get for those live commercials, but I'm not sure they are worth the damage of people like me that refuse to go to a sx anymore because of them. I'm not going to pay $100 for my wife and I to go watch commercials. I quit going to airshows for the same reason. I refused to allow them at my track as well. Billboards, signs, banners are all okay, but to shove commercials down my throat at an event I'm paying to attend only serves to get me to stop going to those events.
FOUR-STROKES ARE GIVEN A DOUBLE DISPLACEMENT ADVANTAGE !!!!
Obviously the four-stroke motorcycle required an enormous handicap in order to be competitive with the lighter, faster, less costly, two-stroke motocross machines in the late 1990’s. It seems that this now outdated rule is now causing the less expensive, and more reliable, two stroke machines to become eliminated. Eliminating two-strokes was never the intent of the rule !!! I think it’s time the AMA and MX Sports work to adjust this severely outdated “Double Displacement” rule.
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