Works Showa vs Kayaba

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Edited Date/Time 1/26/2012 8:47pm
Hows doing Vital??

Enough with the Wilson threads already, how about some good content!

Been noticing that Chads CRF450 has Factory Showa suspenders but the stocker comes with kayaba

Prior to the new yz450f being a HUNK OF' ..all the factory yamahas had works kyb suspenders. My question is what is the difference between the two??

Feel free to correct me if im wrong but before factory honda stepped in chad was running A-Kit showa stuff.

Just keen on knowin the differences!
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MXR 11/13/2011 6:40pm
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I don't know , let me ask DDavis and I'll get back to you .
crashnburn11 11/13/2011 6:43pm
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They have different stickers on the outside. This makes the Showas lighter because there is less letters...
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I heard that Showa is harder to set up but once you get the right setting it is amazing. KYB easier to set up but. Not sure how it compares to the works showa stuff. If I'm wrong I will publicly apologize to both companies.

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what suspension does ddavis run?

run the opposite.
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Hando 11/13/2011 6:53pm
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would like to hear some technical specifications.

although these are not "works" the A-Kit stuff is hot.

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cmess77 11/13/2011 7:26pm
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crashnburn11 wrote:
They have different stickers on the outside. This makes the Showas lighter because there is less letters...
KYB = 3 Letters
Showa = 5 Letters...

I'd like an apology now for your arithmetic mistake.
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crashnburn11 wrote:
They have different stickers on the outside. This makes the Showas lighter because there is less letters...
cmess77 wrote:
KYB = 3 Letters
Showa = 5 Letters...

I'd like an apology now for your arithmetic mistake.
Kayaba?
Chris O'Neal 11/13/2011 7:34pm
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I've always thought it was weird that Honda owns part of Showa and runs them on the factory bikes but they come stock with KYB.
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Hando 11/13/2011 8:55pm
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Chris O'Neal wrote:
I've always thought it was weird that Honda owns part of Showa and runs them on the factory bikes but they come stock with KYB.
Only the latest generation of 450's do

the 250F is still Showa equipped as is the 150.

Not sure about the CRF trail bikes though.
crashnburn11 11/13/2011 9:01pm
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cmess77 wrote:
KYB = 3 Letters
Showa = 5 Letters...

I'd like an apology now for your arithmetic mistake.
I'm sorry for misleading you bro
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Hando 11/13/2011 9:03pm
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JJO741 wrote:
I heard that Showa is harder to set up but once you get the right setting it is amazing. KYB easier to set up but. Not...
I heard that Showa is harder to set up but once you get the right setting it is amazing. KYB easier to set up but. Not sure how it compares to the works showa stuff. If I'm wrong I will publicly apologize to both companies.
this is the best answer so far in this thread.

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scooter5002 11/13/2011 9:06pm
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Hando wrote:
would like to hear some technical specifications. although these are not "works" the A-Kit stuff is hot. [img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6wKUDR9r9PM/TbDs0xhM6XI/AAAAAAAACec/oUTdYj9C1bg/s1600/WorksShowaSuspensionBLU_large.jpg[/img]
would like to hear some technical specifications.

although these are not "works" the A-Kit stuff is hot.

Technical specs? Ok. I'll explain to best of my knowledge.
The long thingys go on the front of you bike, they go up and down in a springy kinda way, but they have oil in 'em. Apparently you can adjust them. or so I've been told.
The short thingy goes on the back, but attaches by some weird link thingy, don't have a fucken clue how it works. Or if it even does. Some say it's just there to add weight to the bike, acting as some kind of ballast. Apparently, in James Stewarts case, if he can see it, the bike is upside down after he has crashed for the umpteenth time in a SX race and knows enough to flip it rightside up again. This ONLY applies to James Stewart. I digress. The short thingy works in similar fashion to the front long thingys, but in a different fashion. Hope this clears this matter up for you. Oh, BTW, I believe something goes BETWEEN the two long thingys, to hold in place what is known as a "wheel". Should you require any further technical data, please feel free to consult with me. Should be unneccessary though. I've covered it.
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Skunk 11/13/2011 9:13pm
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Hando wrote:
would like to hear some technical specifications. although these are not "works" the A-Kit stuff is hot. [img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6wKUDR9r9PM/TbDs0xhM6XI/AAAAAAAACec/oUTdYj9C1bg/s1600/WorksShowaSuspensionBLU_large.jpg[/img]
would like to hear some technical specifications.

although these are not "works" the A-Kit stuff is hot.

I have a set of these so clearly these are best thread over !
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scooter5002 11/13/2011 9:18pm
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Oh, I forgot. STFU, Noob.
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scooter5002 wrote:
Oh, I forgot. STFU, Noob.
Hando wrote:
Blink Quite mean for a canuck
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You're new around here. Some day you will get it. You're lucky. No one ever even GAVE me one. Sorta felt like an outsider, unaccepted as...
You're new around here. Some day you will get it. You're lucky. No one ever even GAVE me one. Sorta felt like an outsider, unaccepted as it were. Too late now. Been around for a while. Plus, I got over it. I would say welcome, but then you'd start to think this a cool place to hang out full of cameradery, good will, fuzzy and warmness, wisdom, worthy exchanges of knowledge, and all that shit. Trust me, that ain't Vital. SORRY, wrong club!
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Lol If that's directed at ME, Mark it's too late. I've been here long enough, I'm not a noob anymore. However, if you are offering that up because you feel it's the "right" thing to do, and you're a good all round guy who rides a CR500 like me, well then I graciously accept. Most kind of you, old chap.
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drmarkr 11/13/2011 9:36pm
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Didn't want you to feel left out......

Har! Grab a beer.....don't cost nothin'......
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Skunk 11/13/2011 9:46pm
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Mod Killer wrote:
what suspension does ddavis run?

run the opposite.
Hope he runs stock
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Lightning78 11/13/2011 10:59pm
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Does anyone have anything informative to add than some dd bashing? Seems to me we got one legit answer the rest were inside jokes....... I clicked on this thread hoping to learn something ...shoulda known better
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Mod Killer 11/13/2011 11:01pm
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Mod Killer wrote:
what suspension does ddavis run?

run the opposite.
Skunk wrote:
Hope he runs stock
if he's running stock, and can still scrub better than 90% of the pro's......why isnt he pro yet? oh yeah, now i remember his suicide letter/thread.
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i wish i could be informed of every time there was a meltdown or joke-fest like today. that way i could avoid this place the other 361 days of the year.

i havent laughed this much (while sober) in a long time.
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Skunk 11/13/2011 11:12pm
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Mod Killer wrote:
what suspension does ddavis run?

run the opposite.
Skunk wrote:
Hope he runs stock
Mod Killer wrote:
if he's running stock, and can still scrub better than 90% of the pro's......why isnt he pro yet? oh yeah, now i remember his suicide letter/thread.
I would like to see that letter
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Mod Killer 11/13/2011 11:19pm
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i dunno if anyone saved it.

im pretty sure it got deleted from the Ddumbgeon pretty quickly.

it was like a 60+ item list of why the kid is a clown.

i dunno, maybe someone who saved a copy will read this thread and re-post.

im warning u tho, you gotta have a pretty dark/twisted/sick sense of humor to find it funny. i find it hilarious. but most were pretty appalled by ddumbasses sentiments
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Skunk 11/14/2011 12:39am
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i dunno if anyone saved it. im pretty sure it got deleted from the Ddumbgeon pretty quickly. it was like a 60+ item list of why...
i dunno if anyone saved it.

im pretty sure it got deleted from the Ddumbgeon pretty quickly.

it was like a 60+ item list of why the kid is a clown.

i dunno, maybe someone who saved a copy will read this thread and re-post.

im warning u tho, you gotta have a pretty dark/twisted/sick sense of humor to find it funny. i find it hilarious. but most were pretty appalled by ddumbasses sentiments
Yo mod I just hope I don't piss my pants let's all find this piece

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