"Women in moto dont get the reconition they deserve"

yz133rider
Profile picture for user yz133rider
Posts
4467
Joined
8/1/2013
Location
Avondale, PA US
yz133rider
Meanwhile theres a whole segment dedicated to amateur no name women who ride on live tv lol
|
p0wn
Profile picture for user p0wn
Posts
214
Joined
5/19/2016
Location
Portland, OR US
p0wn 3/24/2018 6:31pm
3/24/2018 6:31pm
Jesus this thread is so stupid I think I lost a few brain cells. Did corky from life goes on start this thread?

They're trying to broaden the viewership demographic which will increase the fanbase of the sport. It's good for the sport.

The Shop

See All »
rmoto003
Profile picture for user rmoto003
Posts
926
Joined
2/26/2017
Location
Gulf Shores, AL US
rmoto003 3/24/2018 6:35pm
3/24/2018 6:35pm
b b buuutt my feelings!

MY FEELINGS!!
Y

F
E
E
L
I
N
G
S
!
!
Premixed112
Profile picture for user Premixed112
Posts
850
Joined
2/19/2015
Location
Los Angeles, CA US
Premixed112 3/24/2018 6:37pm
3/24/2018 6:37pm Edited Date/Time 3/24/2018 6:37pm
I really don't get why you guys give such a shit about that segment enough to bitch about it so much. Does it bother you that much that they have a few minute segment on a chick, or would you rather watch commercials with that time instead? Please help me understand.
KMC440
Profile picture for user KMC440
Posts
7764
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
US
KMC440 3/24/2018 6:41pm
3/24/2018 6:41pm
p0wn wrote:
Jesus this thread is so stupid I think I lost a few brain cells. Did corky from life goes on start this thread? They're trying to...
Jesus this thread is so stupid I think I lost a few brain cells. Did corky from life goes on start this thread?

They're trying to broaden the viewership demographic which will increase the fanbase of the sport. It's good for the sport.
Holy shit a fucking Corky reference
jeffro503
Profile picture for user jeffro503
Posts
27442
Joined
7/22/2007
Location
St Helens, OR US
jeffro503 3/24/2018 6:43pm
3/24/2018 6:43pm
I didn't really care for the make up to mud segment at first , but I kinda dig it now. Support men , women , kids of every color....it's how we grow the sport. I dig moto chicks , as they usually seem to be the coolest chicks around. Can't beat that.
-MAVERICK-
Profile picture for user -MAVERICK-
Posts
50398
Joined
3/26/2015
Location
Ontario CA
Fantasy
3730th
-MAVERICK- 3/24/2018 6:43pm
3/24/2018 6:43pm
Premixed112 wrote:
I really don't get why you guys give such a shit about that segment enough to bitch about it so much. Does it bother you that...
I really don't get why you guys give such a shit about that segment enough to bitch about it so much. Does it bother you that much that they have a few minute segment on a chick, or would you rather watch commercials with that time instead? Please help me understand.
If you think that segment is about chicks or trying to broaden the audience like the poster above you're both sadly mistaken.

That whole thing IS a commercial for Toyota.
Premixed112
Profile picture for user Premixed112
Posts
850
Joined
2/19/2015
Location
Los Angeles, CA US
Premixed112 3/24/2018 6:46pm
3/24/2018 6:46pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:
If you think that segment is about chicks or trying to broaden the audience like the poster above you're both sadly mistaken. That whole thing IS...
If you think that segment is about chicks or trying to broaden the audience like the poster above you're both sadly mistaken.

That whole thing IS a commercial for Toyota.
Never said it wasn't a commercial for Toyota. That's obvious. I didn't much care for the warrior made thing last year, but you didn't hear a peep out of me complaining about it. It really makes you wonder what the motivation behind a lot of these complaints are..
agn5009
Profile picture for user agn5009
Posts
6757
Joined
6/8/2012
Location
State College, PA US
agn5009 3/24/2018 6:49pm
3/24/2018 6:49pm
Premixed112 wrote:
I really don't get why you guys give such a shit about that segment enough to bitch about it so much. Does it bother you that...
I really don't get why you guys give such a shit about that segment enough to bitch about it so much. Does it bother you that much that they have a few minute segment on a chick, or would you rather watch commercials with that time instead? Please help me understand.
-MAVERICK- wrote:
If you think that segment is about chicks or trying to broaden the audience like the poster above you're both sadly mistaken. That whole thing IS...
If you think that segment is about chicks or trying to broaden the audience like the poster above you're both sadly mistaken.

That whole thing IS a commercial for Toyota.
As it should be if they're footin the bill.
Sully
Profile picture for user Sully
Posts
7074
Joined
8/24/2006
Location
JP
Sully 3/24/2018 6:54pm
3/24/2018 6:54pm
Someone commented in week 3 or 4 that the segment grabbed his daughter’s attention and actually got her to pay attention to moto. I’d call that a win.
PRM31
Profile picture for user PRM31
Posts
2136
Joined
8/7/2009
Location
Northern, VA US
PRM31 3/24/2018 6:55pm
3/24/2018 6:55pm Edited Date/Time 3/24/2018 7:00pm
I’m all for broadening the fan base. However, it is ironic to state they don’t get recognition while taking part in a weekly segment recognizing otherwise unremarkable women riders. No issue with it, just kind of humorous. A better way of phrasing it would be something to the effect of wanting to see more recognition for women riders with stories like this...

I’d like to see a segment on local racing around the country. The tracks, and a couple noteworthy riders perhaps. Maybe help boost local racing.
-MAVERICK-
Profile picture for user -MAVERICK-
Posts
50398
Joined
3/26/2015
Location
Ontario CA
Fantasy
3730th
-MAVERICK- 3/24/2018 6:56pm
3/24/2018 6:56pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:
If you think that segment is about chicks or trying to broaden the audience like the poster above you're both sadly mistaken. That whole thing IS...
If you think that segment is about chicks or trying to broaden the audience like the poster above you're both sadly mistaken.

That whole thing IS a commercial for Toyota.
Premixed112 wrote:
Never said it wasn't a commercial for Toyota. That's obvious. I didn't much care for the warrior made thing last year, but you didn't hear a...
Never said it wasn't a commercial for Toyota. That's obvious. I didn't much care for the warrior made thing last year, but you didn't hear a peep out of me complaining about it. It really makes you wonder what the motivation behind a lot of these complaints are..
Personally I'd rather see other segments like the one we saw tonight on Cartwright or privateers, things like that. Things that are more relevant to the sport and the event but unfortunately Toyata pays big bucks to be part of the broadcast so we're stuck watching whatever marketing route they decided on.

They used to have things like the Racer X gas card and the Toyota privateer of the year award which got them a truck and something like 25k. My guess is the ROI was mininal if any and a segment like Make Up To Mud has a better return since more eyes get to see it.

Sucks but money makes the world go round.
Zoom
Profile picture for user Zoom
Posts
1106
Joined
10/21/2012
Location
Cypress, TX US
Zoom 3/24/2018 7:00pm
3/24/2018 7:00pm Edited Date/Time 3/24/2018 7:01pm
I think some of you miss the point, because of the misspelled words...

While on a TV segment dedicated to woman's motocross giving women recognition, a woman motocrosser says, "we don't get the recognition we deserve"...
Paul333
Profile picture for user Paul333
Posts
1838
Joined
2/15/2012
Location
Virginia Beach, VA US
Paul333 3/24/2018 7:04pm
3/24/2018 7:04pm
I guess this is Feld's attempt at being Social Justice Warrior PC, but its complete bullshit. Can anyone name a Female rider who hasn't gotten recognition? I can't

There have been numerous who have gotten far more attention than their actual speed/results demanded though. Merely because they are women.

Pit Row

See All »
yz133rider
Profile picture for user yz133rider
Posts
4467
Joined
8/1/2013
Location
Avondale, PA US
yz133rider 3/24/2018 7:07pm
3/24/2018 7:07pm
Paul333 wrote:
I guess this is Feld's attempt at being Social Justice Warrior PC, but its complete bullshit. Can anyone name a Female rider who hasn't gotten recognition...
I guess this is Feld's attempt at being Social Justice Warrior PC, but its complete bullshit. Can anyone name a Female rider who hasn't gotten recognition? I can't

There have been numerous who have gotten far more attention than their actual speed/results demanded though. Merely because they are women.
Last paragraph is the irony i was pointing out Thats all lol
es337
Profile picture for user es337
Posts
1086
Joined
4/13/2012
Location
MD US
es337 3/24/2018 7:08pm
3/24/2018 7:08pm
Paul333 wrote:
I guess this is Feld's attempt at being Social Justice Warrior PC, but its complete bullshit. Can anyone name a Female rider who hasn't gotten recognition...
I guess this is Feld's attempt at being Social Justice Warrior PC, but its complete bullshit. Can anyone name a Female rider who hasn't gotten recognition? I can't

There have been numerous who have gotten far more attention than their actual speed/results demanded though. Merely because they are women.
more like the oems are trying to sell more bikes
akillerwombat
Profile picture for user akillerwombat
Posts
2006
Joined
10/16/2013
Location
Los Angeles, CA US
akillerwombat 3/24/2018 7:14pm
3/24/2018 7:14pm
You guys realize they didn't film this today, right?

Shits been in the can for long before this season and "makeup to mud" started.
Skymx99
Profile picture for user Skymx99
Posts
53
Joined
8/26/2009
Location
Bowling Green, KY US
Fantasy
3202nd
Skymx99 3/24/2018 7:20pm
3/24/2018 7:20pm
You may know better than me, but they were still asking for submissions for the last couple segments on the broadcast about a month ago. Idk how far out these were recorded.

With that being said, I'm all for the segment. It's been interesting and I don't get all the negative vibes about it. There will be complaints no matter what the segment is.
Joe512
Profile picture for user Joe512
Posts
365
Joined
10/2/2016
Location
Conowingo, MD US
Joe512 3/24/2018 7:48pm
3/24/2018 7:48pm
I think a lot of people misunderstand the segment as filler from the broadcasting guys. It's a paid for segment from Toyota, it's not there just to entertain YOU in between races. But you know what your right, forget paying sponsors who needs um. Fill that minute thirty with content catered to your exact liking because God forbid every minute of your day to day needs to be perfect and exactly what you want, if not then let's start a thread on vital about how to change the sport each week to adjust for what happened the week before.
Dirty Points 3/24/2018 7:48pm
3/24/2018 7:48pm
Skymx99 wrote:
You may know better than me, but they were still asking for submissions for the last couple segments on the broadcast about a month ago. Idk...
You may know better than me, but they were still asking for submissions for the last couple segments on the broadcast about a month ago. Idk how far out these were recorded.

With that being said, I'm all for the segment. It's been interesting and I don't get all the negative vibes about it. There will be complaints no matter what the segment is.
The call out for submissions is as much (actually more) about crowd/social media engagement than an actual search for programmable material.
DavetheVintageGuy 3/24/2018 7:57pm
3/24/2018 7:57pm
At least the chicks they've had on these segments haven't been hard on the eyes.

They COULD be recruiting Starbucks vegan barristas and teaching them to ride. Blink
Bry145
Profile picture for user Bry145
Posts
366
Joined
6/12/2013
Location
Bridgeville, PA US
Bry145 3/24/2018 7:58pm
3/24/2018 7:58pm
I think if we want amateur motocross to be sustainable in the long run we will need to attract new riders/racers to replace the ones that are getting too old to ride. Adding more women could be a way to accomplish this.

If women want more recognition, we need to do away with female-only classes and let them run with boys and men.

Winning the women's class brings limited recognition because it is viewed as a "lesser class" due to lesser competition. If a young lady like the one featured in this segment was able to run mid-pack or better in the B or C class against males, that would bring a lot of recognition.

Having girls/women only racing girls/women will limit their potential. Racing males/faster racers will improve their skills. Society has taught us that men and women are now equals. As such, maybe they should be racing each other.

Vicky Golden created a lot of attention racing against the males. Following her lead could bring more recognition. But if we want to have a powder puff class and keep women on their own island, their recognition will be limited.
Iridereallyslow 3/24/2018 7:59pm
3/24/2018 7:59pm
Premixed112 wrote:
I really don't get why you guys give such a shit about that segment enough to bitch about it so much. Does it bother you that...
I really don't get why you guys give such a shit about that segment enough to bitch about it so much. Does it bother you that much that they have a few minute segment on a chick, or would you rather watch commercials with that time instead? Please help me understand.
-MAVERICK- wrote:
If you think that segment is about chicks or trying to broaden the audience like the poster above you're both sadly mistaken. That whole thing IS...
If you think that segment is about chicks or trying to broaden the audience like the poster above you're both sadly mistaken.

That whole thing IS a commercial for Toyota.
My chick really digs the make up to mud segment. She is actullay now interested in riding and getting her own dirtbike, and I’ll give the segment a little bit of credit for providing some inspiration.
KMC440
Profile picture for user KMC440
Posts
7764
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
US
KMC440 3/24/2018 8:03pm
3/24/2018 8:03pm
Bry ... there's nothing keeping any girl-woman-female from running any class that person is eligible for.
oldmotophan 3/24/2018 8:22pm
3/24/2018 8:22pm
I would rather watch "makeup to mud" during downtime of the live broadcast than paying for the livestream on the internet. Thank you Toyota.

Post a reply to: "Women in moto dont get the reconition they deserve"