Window’d KTM engine.

Ghost of Jabroni 10/27/2017 4:44pm
10/27/2017 4:44pm
Ghost of Jabroni wrote:
Hey, 1 in 5 Americans still believe the sun orbits the earth. It's much easier to fool people than convince them they have been lied too...
Hey, 1 in 5 Americans still believe the sun orbits the earth.

It's much easier to fool people than convince them they have been lied too.

Just look at how many people still change their car's oil every 3k miles. Idiots. 10-15k is totally acceptable even for the average shitty driver. So imagine how long engine oil life lasts for the guy who properly warms up his car EVERY time throughout the life of the vehicle.

I think blow-by on a dirtbike does more to shorten oil lifespan than actual ride time.
BobPA wrote:
The 10k-15k mileage thing I will stand by you 100%. My mom has 2008 Saab 9-3 turbo, has 243k on the clock. Oil changes every 12k...
The 10k-15k mileage thing I will stand by you 100%. My mom has 2008 Saab 9-3 turbo, has 243k on the clock. Oil changes every 12k wth Mobil 1. Still runs like the day is was new.

But, calling yourself smart because you have a different opinion than the group is just laughable.
I don't have a different opinion. Because this topic is not subjective. I simply know something you dont. Thus making me smarter than you.
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Torco1 10/27/2017 4:53pm
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Ghost of Jabroni wrote:
Hey, 1 in 5 Americans still believe the sun orbits the earth. It's much easier to fool people than convince them they have been lied too...
Hey, 1 in 5 Americans still believe the sun orbits the earth.

It's much easier to fool people than convince them they have been lied too.

Just look at how many people still change their car's oil every 3k miles. Idiots. 10-15k is totally acceptable even for the average shitty driver. So imagine how long engine oil life lasts for the guy who properly warms up his car EVERY time throughout the life of the vehicle.

I think blow-by on a dirtbike does more to shorten oil lifespan than actual ride time.
BobPA wrote:
The 10k-15k mileage thing I will stand by you 100%. My mom has 2008 Saab 9-3 turbo, has 243k on the clock. Oil changes every 12k...
The 10k-15k mileage thing I will stand by you 100%. My mom has 2008 Saab 9-3 turbo, has 243k on the clock. Oil changes every 12k wth Mobil 1. Still runs like the day is was new.

But, calling yourself smart because you have a different opinion than the group is just laughable.
Ghost of Jabroni wrote:
I don't have a different opinion. Because this topic is not subjective. I simply know something you dont. Thus making me smarter than you.
You know a lot less about oil than you think. And no.......I'm not getting involved with one of your little arguments that you like to suck people into. I've been working for an oil manufacturer for close to 20 years and I can tell you that you don't know as much as you try to let people think you know.
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mx317 10/27/2017 5:23pm
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Jabroni is sure using some stinky bait in this thread.
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TrailDigger 10/27/2017 5:46pm
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Ghost of Jabroni wrote:
I don't have a different opinion. Because this topic is not subjective. I simply know something you dont. Thus making me smarter than you.
You sound like the Dwight Schrute of MX.

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jeffro503 10/27/2017 5:57pm
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I'm not an expert on "oil longevity "....but I will say dirt bikes tend to be pretty hard on engine oil , especially the 4 strokes since they run warmer. I have found out that over the 35 years of riding , racing dirt bikes.....the 3 - 5 hour mark is a good time to change it. Seems pretty burned and gets those little metallic pieces out of your oil sooner , instead of letting them float around in there a while.

If you want to be a cheap skate with your $7000.00 - $10,000.00 new dirt bike , by changing your oil every 10 - 15 hours...good luck. If it isn't totally hammered by then , you aren't riding it on anything other than a parking lot.

Spending $6.00 - $9.00 for a quart of oil every 3 - 5 hours is to much for you? Keep doing your thing. LaughingLaughing
Ghost of Jabroni 10/27/2017 6:16pm
10/27/2017 6:16pm
mx317 wrote:
Jabroni is sure using some stinky bait in this thread.
Are you implying that I am trolling? Trolling that would result in guys blowing their bikes up for my narcissistic amusement. Cmon now.

I may be an asshole. Im not a piece of shit tho.
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Ghost of Jabroni 10/27/2017 6:25pm
10/27/2017 6:25pm
TrailDigger wrote:
You sound like the Dwight Schrute of MX.
Smarter than my peers yet socially awkward? That's accurate I suppose.

Does that make GuyB our version of Michael Scott?

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BobPA 10/27/2017 6:48pm
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Ghost of Jabroni wrote:
I don't have a different opinion. Because this topic is not subjective. I simply know something you dont. Thus making me smarter than you.
You simply claim to know something without any physical proof. Delusions are not equal to actual knowledge, sorry chief.
Ghost of Jabroni 10/27/2017 6:50pm
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Torco1 wrote:
You know a lot less about oil than you think. And no.......I'm not getting involved with one of your little arguments that you like to suck...
You know a lot less about oil than you think. And no.......I'm not getting involved with one of your little arguments that you like to suck people into. I've been working for an oil manufacturer for close to 20 years and I can tell you that you don't know as much as you try to let people think you know.
You've already been sucked in. Grab a seat and enjoy yourself.

It seems I may know what I know. Because there are two groups in this debate. One seems to get longevity out of their 4 strokes by ignoring certain owners manual service recommendations that are written by bean counters.They've even cited a study that showed automobiles are capable of 100k miles.

The other group perpetuates the myth that 4t's are unreliable. They admittedly suck valves, live in 2nd gear, blow up motors, dont properly warm up their engines, free rev the bike for no reason while waiting on the starting line, and complain that if a 250F doesnt have the power to pull their fat asses around the track that the only solution is to live on the rev limiter like it's a 125t.

Which group sounds like they know what they are talking about?
Ghost of Jabroni 10/27/2017 6:58pm
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BobPA wrote:
You simply claim to know something without any physical proof. Delusions are not equal to actual knowledge, sorry chief.
That's the exact same line flat-earth people use. Nice company you keep.
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mx317 10/27/2017 7:01pm
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mx317 wrote:
Jabroni is sure using some stinky bait in this thread.
Ghost of Jabroni wrote:
Are you implying that I am trolling? Trolling that would result in guys blowing their bikes up for my narcissistic amusement. Cmon now. I may be...
Are you implying that I am trolling? Trolling that would result in guys blowing their bikes up for my narcissistic amusement. Cmon now.

I may be an asshole. Im not a piece of shit tho.
Nah, more like fishing for someone to spar with. You write well and seem well educated, but I would not want you maintaining my bike. Cool
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wreckitrandy 10/27/2017 7:02pm
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TrailDigger wrote:
You sound like the Dwight Schrute of MX.
Ghost of Jabroni wrote:
Smarter than my peers yet socially awkward? That's accurate I suppose.

Does that make GuyB our version of Michael Scott?

You may be without peer.....
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BobPA 10/27/2017 7:09pm
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BobPA wrote:
You simply claim to know something without any physical proof. Delusions are not equal to actual knowledge, sorry chief.
Ghost of Jabroni wrote:
That's the exact same line flat-earth people use. Nice company you keep.
I like turtles.
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BobbyM 10/27/2017 7:42pm
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Check and replace are 2 different things. MaN you mouthbreathers are stupid
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reded 10/27/2017 8:01pm
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Jabroni is quite the antagonist and I haven't figured out his angle yet but overlooking the part of the thread that he's turned to a pissing match, I'd like to commend KTM for helping the OPs buddy out.

Final note;

I change my oil at frequent intervals, it may not help but it sure as fuck don't hurt.
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Spizzy 10/28/2017 5:25am
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If spending a few bucks, and a few minutes on oil replacement is too much of a buy in, this probably isnt the sport for you.
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lp223 10/28/2017 5:53am
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T-Fish wrote:
We’ve almost all seen the video of the KXF 450 out in the hills, revved up and ready to practice a start, and then “BOOM”. Same...
We’ve almost all seen the video of the KXF 450 out in the hills, revved up and ready to practice a start, and then “BOOM”.

Same thing happened this morning to my buddy. On the line for his first moto of the day, set the launch control, hit the gas and as soon as it hit the limiter...clank.

Does anyone have any ideas as to why this happened? Relatively low hours for a 450 and still under the recommended hours for any engine work.

This is a 2017.5 KTM 450SX-F FE.





I'm guessing this was Eugene's bike? I was lined up right next to him when it happened.
GeorgiePorgie 10/28/2017 6:40am
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Spizzy wrote:
If spending a few bucks, and a few minutes on oil replacement is too much of a buy in, this probably isnt the sport for you.
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T-Fish 11/2/2017 10:43am
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T-Fish wrote:
We’ve almost all seen the video of the KXF 450 out in the hills, revved up and ready to practice a start, and then “BOOM”. Same...
We’ve almost all seen the video of the KXF 450 out in the hills, revved up and ready to practice a start, and then “BOOM”.

Same thing happened this morning to my buddy. On the line for his first moto of the day, set the launch control, hit the gas and as soon as it hit the limiter...clank.

Does anyone have any ideas as to why this happened? Relatively low hours for a 450 and still under the recommended hours for any engine work.

This is a 2017.5 KTM 450SX-F FE.





lp223 wrote:
I'm guessing this was Eugene's bike? I was lined up right next to him when it happened.
Yep. Doug was on one side of him and you must have been on the other.


All I know is he owes me $20 for having a better start than he did. lol.
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T-Fish 11/8/2017 5:26am
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Sixeightone wrote:
Any updates on this? how did he make out?
KTM took care of it.

Woodstock KTM in Illinois is the dealer. While I haven’t bought a bike from them yet, I will be. No hassles at all and they’re there for the customer.
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EAO7 12/30/2017 8:41am
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Just left Woodstock KTM I couldn’t be a more satisfied customer I will be staying on orange and my kids will be on ktms bought from them as well they fact that the bike had the hours it did and I wasn’t held responsible for any cost was nothing but impressive!
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Park and Huck 12/30/2017 9:03am
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Sixeightone wrote:
Any updates on this? how did he make out?
T-Fish wrote:
KTM took care of it. Woodstock KTM in Illinois is the dealer. While I haven’t bought a bike from them yet, I will be. No hassles...
KTM took care of it.

Woodstock KTM in Illinois is the dealer. While I haven’t bought a bike from them yet, I will be. No hassles at all and they’re there for the customer.
I think this may be the most impressive post on Vital in 2017. ^^^

It's good to know they take care of their customers too... Wink

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CR250Rider 8/14/2018 6:49pm
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This is a pretty entertaining troll thread. Honestly I can't believe it's still up.kudos to ktm.
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T-Fish 8/14/2018 7:41pm
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CR250Rider wrote:
This is a pretty entertaining troll thread. Honestly I can't believe it's still up.kudos to ktm.
Troll thread?
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Madmax31 8/15/2018 4:38am
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You guys are making a mountain out of a molehill. A little JBWeld and some Pulp discounted Vertex parts and you'll be back in biz.
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