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They will try it, and while Dean and most would make it every time, others would fail, and the penalty for them is not worth the benefit to you as a fan just watching. I'm sorry, but again, I chose to prevent putting them in a bad position to have to jump something so risky that it wasn't worth the price of one bad crash. Because the effects of such a crash would not be worth the risk for the rider, let alone your entertainment.
DC
Racer X
Um, I still ride too, just don't have time to race in the summer... but I would be glad to meet you now, anytime, anywhere, and you can show me how wrong it is that I base my safety decisions on real track knowledge. Please let me know which track you would like to lead me around.
And "I'm over the little mound of dirt in front of the 20 ft double so I'm not even gonna post on that again, but I will say that if I just got bitch slapped, you hit like a girl, lol"
I didn't say anything about a bitch slap. No matter, let's check on that anyway after the riding, if you need to measure my prowess in the sweet science, along with riding dirt bikes and understanding track design.
DC
Racer X
Thanks again.... See you at the races
The Shop
I can understand that reasoning
Practically every week the riders are 'forced' to go flying through sections with 2 foot deep, hard edged ruts and some guys can float over them going a million miles an hour, while some guys struggle to just get through them and can't carry the speed through them that others can. In many cases, lots of riders are losing lots of time to the guys who can fly through those ruts. That would supposedly 'FORCE' them to go through those sections just as fast as the guys who are flying through them. Yet, crashing in those ruts can be horrible - as evidenced by Tomac's double shoulder screw up crash as well as countless crashes by many riders over the years. High-siding, cross-rutting and high-speed cross-rutted kickers can be unbelievably dangerous. But if there are some obstacles labeled 'jumps' where a guy strings a few together in a creative way, that is seen as too dangerous. So we trust the riders to know their limits when it comes to ruts, braking bumps, kickers, g-outs and whoops etc and stay within their limits - even when losing time, but when it comes to "Jumps" we assume they have no knowledge of their own limitations and will mindlessly follow the leader because it's costing them half a second a lap. Makes no sense at all.
Tomac's crash was a very high-speed section where he didn't need to be going as fast as he did, but he chose to keep charging despite a big lead. The promoter has been trying to slow that section down ever since.
We had two transports all weekend, one pro (ankle) and one amateur. I think that's a pretty good weekend. I only wish it were zero transports. Oh, and the fastest guys one, one coming from way behind.
We make changes all the time, sometimes at the suggestion of riders, sometimes team managers, sometimes on our own. Why this one is so controversial for Vital MX is the weird part.
DC
Racer X
Anyway, I think Wilson maybe was not very smart, maybe after making the jump should see if others did, and if they did not, he should not do it anymore until he's in the race, I hope he learns from this.
And that is also true for other routes that a pilot makes new, you have to be a bit clever and not teach them to others until it is not necessary.
Wilson you are the man, but in the end for nothing, rather to create a controversy here I hope that Wilson feels guilty, because he would not have taught the trick and create controversy here. Lol
People like these things that the riders are invented, they are out of the ordinary, and if the authority then removes it and is not allowed to continue doing it, it is like that authority comes to annoy the party. And then they protest.
First, never said I could beat you, but I am always up for a challenge. Nor did I say that my expert riding ability let me make a decision that you couldn't. I said it was a bad call AFTER someone already hit it. I agreed it should have never been built that way, but once on the track and someone should initiative, it should have been left alone.
Also it was the exact same at the regional, you said it wasn't but you also said you weren't there. Well I was at both and it was exactly the same at the regional and was deemed perfectly safe for the amateurs.
As for the bitch slap comment, another poster had said that "Davey just bitched slapped motox85" and that comment was a rebutle to that.
Now your last comment is perplexing, as if your riding prowess will be the upcoming "bitch slap" Again, never claimed to be faster but I guarantee you will not blow by me to the effect equal to a bitch slap, I may be almost 50 but I still have some skills.
Pit Row
I will again change the track the next time I see something that I deem in need of change, just as I did at Loretta Lynn's and High Point, but those didn't seem to bother you. How that makes me a poor leader in your mind, I will never understand, nor will your doubt in how approach moto in general change anything in how I approach my thinking. I changed a track that I felt responsible for. What did that have to do with you other than denying you an easy chance to see big crashes?
And as for your skills, I could care less how fast you think you were, but you are the one who implied that I don't race anymore, as an insult to my ability to make the right call, and I'm telling you that's a funny critique and I would be glad to show you my skills for half a lap or so, however long you are still there. And I would never bitch slap you. Never.
DC
Raver X
DC, please stop feeding the troll.
If you changed this ugly double in High Point, congratulations, it was very dangerous. I was write time ago for to change this jump, but I don't remember where, but when this year the jump is not there, I think that is very good.
If these guys lose traction and come up short on the big giant jumps at Glen Helen or Hangtown, they may nard themselves and probably ride it out. Even if they really screw up the penalty isn't that severe.
I think the reason DC decided to "Tear Down That Wall" was because a very minor error could cause a very extreme penalty. Minor errors occur all day but the penalty generally aligns with the severity of the error. Not in this case.
Keep doing what you do, and thanks for giving us vital members one on one responses from someone who literally runs a huge chunk of our sport.
I was at Ironman Saturday watching and also raced on Sunday in the Vet classes.
Two thoughts went through my head when I saw the video of Dean hopping that:
1) someone is going to get hurt bad
2) I might get hurt bad on Sunday because I will have arm pump and somehow whiskey throttle into that thing!
BTW Ironman is one of the most fun tracks I've ever raced on. Looking forward to doing it again.
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