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IAccept not dominating this year? Cause imo they wont... dungey doing his thing and RV should be on fire... i feel that its the end for the top dogs... sad but true





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James will still be the fastest supercross rider out there if he keeps it on two wheels. Reed will be top five for sure most races. Hopefully injuries won't thin the field of riders this year because it's going to be so good this year.
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Grieby54 10/29/2010 11:26pm
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Will people ever stop asking stupid questions? IMO they won't. Sad but true.
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You sound like a 14 year old girl....
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Grieby54 wrote:
Will people ever stop asking stupid questions? IMO they won't. Sad but true.
Remember (and this particular poster is a good example), there are no stupid questions...only stupid people who ask questions.

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GuyB 10/29/2010 11:58pm
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Just for the sake of speculation...

I'm not sure I follow your premise. Will they accept not dominating?

If they're not dominating, do they actually get a choice in the matter?

Now having said that, I think there are a lot of people here who have really short memories. The only reason both Chad and James were MIA last year was due to injuries. They should both be in the mix for podium spots just about every weekend. If you think otherwise, I'm guessing you have one of those "for medicinal purposes only" cards in your wallet.
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crf250pilot 10/30/2010 12:27am
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James will try to win every lap of every race as usual. He is cannot be programmed any other way.
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I think James would rather die than not win. Chad can be in top 5.
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IAccept not dominating this year? Cause imo they wont... dungey doing his thing and RV should be on fire... i feel that its the end for...
IAccept not dominating this year? Cause imo they wont... dungey doing his thing and RV should be on fire... i feel that its the end for the top dogs... sad but true





RV broke his leg in supercross this year.

Why can't that happen again to anyone?
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toroP 10/30/2010 6:37am
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James and Chad are amazing SX riders. Look at 2009 and see how many times they humiliated everyone else. RV, KW, Milsaps, Grant, etc. by 10, 15, 20, 30 seconds, and at A3 they beat 3rd place by over a minute. In 2010 the Ryans had some great wins, but never dropped the next best by over 60 secs.
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toroP wrote:
James and Chad are amazing SX riders. Look at 2009 and see how many times they humiliated everyone else. RV, KW, Milsaps, Grant, etc. by 10...
James and Chad are amazing SX riders. Look at 2009 and see how many times they humiliated everyone else. RV, KW, Milsaps, Grant, etc. by 10, 15, 20, 30 seconds, and at A3 they beat 3rd place by over a minute. In 2010 the Ryans had some great wins, but never dropped the next best by over 60 secs.
Short memory.
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Barfly wrote:
I think James would rather die than not win. Chad can be in top 5.
ohhh ya. cause he really toughed it out to the death at the one national he showed up to this year.. hmmmmmmmmm....
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Just for the sake of speculation... I'm not sure I follow your premise. Will they accept not dominating? If they're not dominating, do they actually get...
Just for the sake of speculation...

I'm not sure I follow your premise. Will they accept not dominating?

If they're not dominating, do they actually get a choice in the matter?

Now having said that, I think there are a lot of people here who have really short memories. The only reason both Chad and James were MIA last year was due to injuries. They should both be in the mix for podium spots just about every weekend. If you think otherwise, I'm guessing you have one of those "for medicinal purposes only" cards in your wallet.
My point was that I don't think they will be 1-2 or 2-1 at virtually every round this year like in years past, and I'm curious as to how each of them will handle that. Seems weird to think that's even possible, but, I believe it is with so much talent on the line, we'll see.

How do I get one of those "cards" anyway? Whistling
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toroP wrote:
James and Chad are amazing SX riders. Look at 2009 and see how many times they humiliated everyone else. RV, KW, Milsaps, Grant, etc. by 10...
James and Chad are amazing SX riders. Look at 2009 and see how many times they humiliated everyone else. RV, KW, Milsaps, Grant, etc. by 10, 15, 20, 30 seconds, and at A3 they beat 3rd place by over a minute. In 2010 the Ryans had some great wins, but never dropped the next best by over 60 secs.
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Short memory.
You are talking ancient history and making up motocross math.

A1 from last year is no longer relevant but at least it makes your 60'seconds go away
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Havent we heard this same song for about the last 4 years? Only for it to turn out the same as always, Chad and James a cut above the rest. (sans last year for obvious reasons)

Sure it will happen one day when they dont have 1-2 covered, but until that day, or when a season or 5-6 races of a season and they are not consistently on the top, i dont see anything changing.
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toroP wrote:
James and Chad are amazing SX riders. Look at 2009 and see how many times they humiliated everyone else. RV, KW, Milsaps, Grant, etc. by 10...
James and Chad are amazing SX riders. Look at 2009 and see how many times they humiliated everyone else. RV, KW, Milsaps, Grant, etc. by 10, 15, 20, 30 seconds, and at A3 they beat 3rd place by over a minute. In 2010 the Ryans had some great wins, but never dropped the next best by over 60 secs.
what race did they lap 3rd place...in 09? hate to say it but the best battles are going to be for 3rd
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Grieby54 wrote:
Will people ever stop asking stupid questions? IMO they won't. Sad but true.
Billy Jack wrote:
Remember (and this particular poster is a good example), there are no stupid questions...only stupid people who ask questions.
Billy jack,STFU
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My point was that I don't think they will be 1-2 or 2-1 at virtually every round this year like in years past, and I'm curious...
My point was that I don't think they will be 1-2 or 2-1 at virtually every round this year like in years past, and I'm curious as to how each of them will handle that. Seems weird to think that's even possible, but, I believe it is with so much talent on the line, we'll see.

How do I get one of those "cards" anyway? Whistling
RV hates to lose as much as bubba, if someone is gonna try and go after Bubba it will be RV. Reed will be a podium guy now. IMO his time of getting second each week is over hes now gonna have a hell of a battle to even make podium.

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Prince1 10/30/2010 9:27am
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toroP wrote:
James and Chad are amazing SX riders. Look at 2009 and see how many times they humiliated everyone else. RV, KW, Milsaps, Grant, etc. by 10...
James and Chad are amazing SX riders. Look at 2009 and see how many times they humiliated everyone else. RV, KW, Milsaps, Grant, etc. by 10, 15, 20, 30 seconds, and at A3 they beat 3rd place by over a minute. In 2010 the Ryans had some great wins, but never dropped the next best by over 60 secs.
Once RV came back from his illness in 2009, I dont remember Reed being a problem for him. Winning 2 of the last 3, and Reed is not on the bike that he was best with. They have RV,RD,TC and CP377 to deal with now! Windham rode like shit in 09 on the new hondas, hes got the bike dialed in now.
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Outsider 10/30/2010 11:08am
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Grieby54 wrote:
Will people ever stop asking stupid questions? IMO they won't. Sad but true.
Billy Jack wrote:
Remember (and this particular poster is a good example), there are no stupid questions...only stupid people who ask questions.
"BJO" thinks I'm stupid... oh, the irony. Laughing
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toroP 10/30/2010 11:35am
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toroP wrote:
James and Chad are amazing SX riders. Look at 2009 and see how many times they humiliated everyone else. RV, KW, Milsaps, Grant, etc. by 10...
James and Chad are amazing SX riders. Look at 2009 and see how many times they humiliated everyone else. RV, KW, Milsaps, Grant, etc. by 10, 15, 20, 30 seconds, and at A3 they beat 3rd place by over a minute. In 2010 the Ryans had some great wins, but never dropped the next best by over 60 secs.
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Once RV came back from his illness in 2009, I dont remember Reed being a problem for him. Winning 2 of the last 3, and Reed...
Once RV came back from his illness in 2009, I dont remember Reed being a problem for him. Winning 2 of the last 3, and Reed is not on the bike that he was best with. They have RV,RD,TC and CP377 to deal with now! Windham rode like shit in 09 on the new hondas, hes got the bike dialed in now.
You mean like SLC, where RV finished over 30 seconds behind Reed? That was the 2nd to last round. And Reed's fastest lap in the main was 1.5 sec faster than RV.
Do you follow the sport?
Oh, and Reed was dealing with illness at that point in the season.
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toroP wrote:
You mean like SLC, where RV finished over 30 seconds behind Reed? That was the 2nd to last round. And Reed's fastest lap in the main...
You mean like SLC, where RV finished over 30 seconds behind Reed? That was the 2nd to last round. And Reed's fastest lap in the main was 1.5 sec faster than RV.
Do you follow the sport?
Oh, and Reed was dealing with illness at that point in the season.
$20 sez RV finishes 2011 with more points than Reed.





1) They both have to be on the line at A1 and be reasonably healthy.



2) Reed has to get a contract first!

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everybody seems to be forgetting about RD, He'll be faster than last year, won't crash like RV and JS and will be #1 again when the fat lady sings. And, don't forget the new #41.
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toroP 10/30/2010 2:45pm
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toroP wrote:
James and Chad are amazing SX riders. Look at 2009 and see how many times they humiliated everyone else. RV, KW, Milsaps, Grant, etc. by 10...
James and Chad are amazing SX riders. Look at 2009 and see how many times they humiliated everyone else. RV, KW, Milsaps, Grant, etc. by 10, 15, 20, 30 seconds, and at A3 they beat 3rd place by over a minute. In 2010 the Ryans had some great wins, but never dropped the next best by over 60 secs.
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Short memory.
knowitalloveragainnovice wrote:
You are talking ancient history and making up motocross math. A1 from last year is no longer relevant but at least it makes your 60'seconds go...
You are talking ancient history and making up motocross math.

A1 from last year is no longer relevant but at least it makes your 60'seconds go away
What am I making up? Try looking at stats.
OK, SLC 2009 James and Chad put about 30 sec. on 3rd. That was a year and a half ago.
Is that really ancient history? Nonsense. Take some time and learn the sport. You can learn a lot from the archive results and video.
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Rewindcaz 10/30/2010 3:05pm
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You really jumped the gun on this one ..



We already know how good Chad & James are against all of the competition. They dominated them .. in a fashion that Dungey has never dominated them.



James beat Dungey with a setup he didn't like at A1, and nearly beat him again with a broken wrist .. And we all know Reed can pretty much hang with James when he's on a bike he's comfortable with. Dungey has yet to really race these two while they were healthy. We all know Reed is about championships, so the fire wasn't in him when he returned to the last few Supercross races.



IMO, the question should be reversed. Can Dungey run the pace of the former champs Reed and Stewart? Because that is what we don't even know.
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I think James has matured and can hold back in second like he did at A-1 than laid down a 5 second faster lap near the end. Let the leader do all the work, I recall him doing that in 09 with Chad, and RC commenting, "Hes just working him" and James would make his move with a few laps to go. Anyway I hope he uses that strategy this year.
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IAccept not dominating this year? Cause imo they wont... dungey doing his thing and RV should be on fire... i feel that its the end for...
IAccept not dominating this year? Cause imo they wont... dungey doing his thing and RV should be on fire... i feel that its the end for the top dogs... sad but true





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Highsider wrote:
Short memory.
knowitalloveragainnovice wrote:
You are talking ancient history and making up motocross math. A1 from last year is no longer relevant but at least it makes your 60'seconds go...
You are talking ancient history and making up motocross math.

A1 from last year is no longer relevant but at least it makes your 60'seconds go away
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What am I making up? Try looking at stats. OK, SLC 2009 James and Chad put about 30 sec. on 3rd. That was a [b]year and...
What am I making up? Try looking at stats.
OK, SLC 2009 James and Chad put about 30 sec. on 3rd. That was a year and a half ago.
Is that really ancient history? Nonsense. Take some time and learn the sport. You can learn a lot from the archive results and video.
Guys seriously- there will be no winners by 30 seconds mark my words- your quoting 09 to make a point? RV waxed JS twice his rookie year "straight up" (whatever that means) and we all saw what RD did with those guys both on and of the track- These guys are all on great programs and just need a little confidence- tenths of seconds from 1st to 5 (maybe as far back as 8th depending on who signs) thats no cake walk even for JS-

Sorry for the reality check-
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Cook441 10/30/2010 5:31pm
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Karma wrote:
I think James has matured and can hold back in second like he did at A-1 than laid down a 5 second faster lap near the...
I think James has matured and can hold back in second like he did at A-1 than laid down a 5 second faster lap near the end. Let the leader do all the work, I recall him doing that in 09 with Chad, and RC commenting, "Hes just working him" and James would make his move with a few laps to go. Anyway I hope he uses that strategy this year.
5 second faster? that never happened- weve been through this a hundred times- James did not go faster RD made some mistakes and slowed theres a difference you know- and it's expected 1st race rookie and all- as for the bike bull - James has been riding and setting up bikes his whole- life- gimme a break- as for waxing comp or lack thereof for the ryans- I think the comp figured there was a chance once the unbeatable JS was beat and also left the picture(they always say 90% is mental well theres some proof)- these young rookies are not the same folks you speek of in 09. There is a hungry field out there for 11 that is more confident because of the RV's and RD's-(they all grew up racing one another and knowing they can compete against one another) JS was always an older legend-=no way your seeing these 30 second leads-
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toroP 10/30/2010 6:51pm
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knowitalloveragainnovice wrote:
You are talking ancient history and making up motocross math. A1 from last year is no longer relevant but at least it makes your 60'seconds go...
You are talking ancient history and making up motocross math.

A1 from last year is no longer relevant but at least it makes your 60'seconds go away
toroP wrote:
What am I making up? Try looking at stats. OK, SLC 2009 James and Chad put about 30 sec. on 3rd. That was a [b]year and...
What am I making up? Try looking at stats.
OK, SLC 2009 James and Chad put about 30 sec. on 3rd. That was a year and a half ago.
Is that really ancient history? Nonsense. Take some time and learn the sport. You can learn a lot from the archive results and video.
Cook441 wrote:
Guys seriously- there will be no winners by 30 seconds mark my words- your quoting 09 to make a point? RV waxed JS twice his rookie...
Guys seriously- there will be no winners by 30 seconds mark my words- your quoting 09 to make a point? RV waxed JS twice his rookie year "straight up" (whatever that means) and we all saw what RD did with those guys both on and of the track- These guys are all on great programs and just need a little confidence- tenths of seconds from 1st to 5 (maybe as far back as 8th depending on who signs) thats no cake walk even for JS-

Sorry for the reality check-
"there will be no winners by 30 seconds mark my words- " Cook, seriously, don't try to predict this sport. People fail continually trying to tell us what will happen. I just quoted stats that suggest it's foolish to write James and Chad off as has-beens.



Sorry for the reality check- oh, and RV didn't "wax" anyone in SX 2009. He held on for wins when the top guys had bad races. More reality.

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