Wil Hahn Leaving Star - Cut Back on Riders?

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Edited Date/Time 6/11/2021 9:39am
So, sounds like it's a done deal that Wil will be leaving Star this year. With that being said could we see Star go in a different direction? At this point, it seems like they will sign every good amateur who is looking for a ride. It has gone to the point that he has riders living with him(Kitchen and Ramano). Right now they are looking at 6-8 250 riders next year plus the addition of Tomac. Could we see them move on from some riders to make some room? Looks to see people's thoughts. Thanks!
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evansteinberg 6/4/2021 6:33am
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I got the sense that he was the one behind all the Star protests, so hopefully we see less of that.
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I'd say he's leaving because he doesn't want to leave California.
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evansteinberg wrote:
I got the sense that he was the one behind all the Star protests, so hopefully we see less of that.
Really? From an outsiders perspective that doesn't seem like Wil's style at all?

Got anything to reference that alluded to him being the "protestor"?

Not trying to argue, truly curious.
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evansteinberg wrote:
I got the sense that he was the one behind all the Star protests, so hopefully we see less of that.
That was a thing before Wil got there. They are spending millions to win races. Can't blame them for trying.
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88FYNN88 wrote:
So, sounds like it's a done deal that Wil will be leaving Star this year. With that being said could we see Star go in a...
So, sounds like it's a done deal that Wil will be leaving Star this year. With that being said could we see Star go in a different direction? At this point, it seems like they will sign every good amateur who is looking for a ride. It has gone to the point that he has riders living with him(Kitchen and Ramano). Right now they are looking at 6-8 250 riders next year plus the addition of Tomac. Could we see them move on from some riders to make some room? Looks to see people's thoughts. Thanks!
https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Wilbur-to-GasGas-questio…
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If more teams moved out of Cali, would there be more rides with the tax money saved?
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Best thing about Wil leaving Star is that we should get the Works Connection Wil call back on pulp again.
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crowe660 wrote:
If more teams moved out of Cali, would there be more rides with the tax money saved?
How much money are they saving? They bought property and will have track maintenance/staff/equipment costs they didn't have before.
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Dirty Points 6/4/2021 8:16am
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crowe660 wrote:
If more teams moved out of Cali, would there be more rides with the tax money saved?
Timo wrote:
How much money are they saving? They bought property and will have track maintenance/staff/equipment costs they didn't have before.
Y'know -- all the tax money they pay on the super paper-profitable operation of running a race team.
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LouisianaMotocross 6/4/2021 8:19am
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crowe660 wrote:
If more teams moved out of Cali, would there be more rides with the tax money saved?
Timo wrote:
How much money are they saving? They bought property and will have track maintenance/staff/equipment costs they didn't have before.
Dirty Points wrote:
Y'know -- all the tax money they pay on the super paper-profitable operation of running a race team.
California finds a way to get tax money. You can bet on that.
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Dirty Points 6/4/2021 8:24am
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Timo wrote:
How much money are they saving? They bought property and will have track maintenance/staff/equipment costs they didn't have before.
Dirty Points wrote:
Y'know -- all the tax money they pay on the super paper-profitable operation of running a race team.
LouisianaMotocross wrote:
California finds a way to get tax money. You can bet on that.
Yes they do. But in this case there wouldn't be any money to "get" aside from local and sales tax (property tax is very low in Cal)
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Can you blame him, who would want to move Florida? Flat, redneck backward, bugs, old people, smoking, humidity, you have to have screened in pools. Spent plenty of time there when I was younger it sux. Armpit of America.
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kapaa10 wrote:
Can you blame him, who would want to move Florida? Flat, redneck backward, bugs, old people, smoking, humidity, you have to have screened in pools. Spent...
Can you blame him, who would want to move Florida? Flat, redneck backward, bugs, old people, smoking, humidity, you have to have screened in pools. Spent plenty of time there when I was younger it sux. Armpit of America.
The streets of San Francisco sound more like your style.
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crowe660 wrote:
If more teams moved out of Cali, would there be more rides with the tax money saved?
Timo wrote:
How much money are they saving? They bought property and will have track maintenance/staff/equipment costs they didn't have before.
It sounded good in my head lol. I know dick about taxes or race teams and it seemed like a legit talking point haha
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Will does not want to move to Tallahassee at the end of this summer, he has a nice home and a life here. GasGas is his new future.

Most of the star guys own homes here in Temecula/ murrieta/ lake Elsinore.
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crowe660 wrote:
If more teams moved out of Cali, would there be more rides with the tax money saved?
Timo wrote:
How much money are they saving? They bought property and will have track maintenance/staff/equipment costs they didn't have before.
crowe660 wrote:
It sounded good in my head lol. I know dick about taxes or race teams and it seemed like a legit talking point haha
The riders will save money by claiming FL as their home state.
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Johnny Ringo 6/4/2021 9:43am
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No matter where you live if your employer writes your check from a state with income tax, you are getting taxed
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Dirty Points 6/4/2021 9:46am
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
No matter where you live if your employer writes your check from a state with income tax, you are getting taxed
They are not employees. They are independent contractors.
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Johnny Ringo 6/4/2021 9:47am
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
No matter where you live if your employer writes your check from a state with income tax, you are getting taxed
Dirty Points wrote:
They are not employees. They are independent contractors.
Good point, I don’t know how the taxes would work out on riders then. Will would save money moving to FL tho
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kapaa10 wrote:
Can you blame him, who would want to move Florida? Flat, redneck backward, bugs, old people, smoking, humidity, you have to have screened in pools. Spent...
Can you blame him, who would want to move Florida? Flat, redneck backward, bugs, old people, smoking, humidity, you have to have screened in pools. Spent plenty of time there when I was younger it sux. Armpit of America.
Up Wind wrote:
The streets of San Francisco sound more like your style.
Nope Im more a so cal/kauai guy and go back and forth.
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BMc914 wrote:
Best thing about Wil leaving Star is that we should get the Works Connection Wil call back on pulp again.
My first thoughts too!!
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Dirty Points wrote:
Y'know -- all the tax money they pay on the super paper-profitable operation of running a race team.
LouisianaMotocross wrote:
California finds a way to get tax money. You can bet on that.
Dirty Points wrote:
Yes they do. But in this case there wouldn't be any money to "get" aside from local and sales tax (property tax is very low in...
Yes they do. But in this case there wouldn't be any money to "get" aside from local and sales tax (property tax is very low in Cal)
The amount of money they save on registering semis alone will be worth it
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
No matter where you live if your employer writes your check from a state with income tax, you are getting taxed
florida has no state income tax.
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kapaa10 wrote:
Can you blame him, who would want to move Florida? Flat, redneck backward, bugs, old people, smoking, humidity, you have to have screened in pools. Spent...
Can you blame him, who would want to move Florida? Flat, redneck backward, bugs, old people, smoking, humidity, you have to have screened in pools. Spent plenty of time there when I was younger it sux. Armpit of America.
Up Wind wrote:
The streets of San Francisco sound more like your style.
You forgot to go baaaaahhhh at the end kappa.
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inthebadboycorner 6/4/2021 4:10pm
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Brent wrote:
Will does not want to move to Tallahassee at the end of this summer, he has a nice home and a life here. GasGas is his...
Will does not want to move to Tallahassee at the end of this summer, he has a nice home and a life here. GasGas is his new future.

Most of the star guys own homes here in Temecula/ murrieta/ lake Elsinore.
Does Wil have a family?
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
No matter where you live if your employer writes your check from a state with income tax, you are getting taxed
yota wrote:
florida has no state income tax.
That was my point kinda, if they move to FL no income tax to employees
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Brent wrote:
Will does not want to move to Tallahassee at the end of this summer, he has a nice home and a life here. GasGas is his...
Will does not want to move to Tallahassee at the end of this summer, he has a nice home and a life here. GasGas is his new future.

Most of the star guys own homes here in Temecula/ murrieta/ lake Elsinore.
I’m from the Florida Panhandle and live in California now. You couldn’t pay me to go back and live another year in Florida. So I’d imagine it’s pretty easy to not want to go there if you’re able to land a job at a branch of the top team in the sport and stay in your home.
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chasetwo79 wrote:
I’m from the Florida Panhandle and live in California now. You couldn’t pay me to go back and live another year in Florida. So I’d imagine...
I’m from the Florida Panhandle and live in California now. You couldn’t pay me to go back and live another year in Florida. So I’d imagine it’s pretty easy to not want to go there if you’re able to land a job at a branch of the top team in the sport and stay in your home.
Which part, southern GA or Southern AL?

That ain't Florida
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kapaa10 wrote:
Can you blame him, who would want to move Florida? Flat, redneck backward, bugs, old people, smoking, humidity, you have to have screened in pools. Spent...
Can you blame him, who would want to move Florida? Flat, redneck backward, bugs, old people, smoking, humidity, you have to have screened in pools. Spent plenty of time there when I was younger it sux. Armpit of America.
$900K

Florida, near orlando

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/15310-Lake-Iola-Rd-Dade-City-FL-3352…

4 bed, 3 bath, 3300 sq ft on 42 acres of green land (not desert)



Let's see what you can find comparable for $900K in California

I'm curious
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Oh, and these homes are habitable.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3999-Pennsylvania-Gulch-Rd-Murphys-C…
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5981-Mountain-Ranch-Rd-San-Andreas-C…
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/28330-Thermal-Rd-Sanger-CA-93657/186…
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4304-Leal-Dr-Lakeport-CA-95453/19083…
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/26739-Sales-Creek-Rd-Clovis-CA-93619…
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