Why the Ban

todder
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Edited Date/Time 1/25/2012 3:58pm
This is right out of the lead ban, so why the hell is there a ban on kids dirt bikes? This is so frustating.

(2) EXCEPTION FOR INACCESSIBLE COMPONENT PARTS.—
(A) IN GENERAL.—The limits established under subsection
(a) shall not apply to any component part of a
children’s product that is not accessible to a child through
Applicability.
normal and reasonably foreseeable use and abuse of such
product, as determined by the Commission. A component
part is not accessible under this subparagraph if such
component part is not physically exposed by reason of
a sealed covering or casing and does not become physically
exposed through reasonably foreseeable use and abuse of
the product. Reasonably foreseeable use and abuse shall
include to, swallowing, mouthing, breaking, or other children’s
activities, and the aging of the product.
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todder wrote:
This is right out of the lead ban, so why the hell is there a ban on kids dirt bikes? This is so frustating. (2) EXCEPTION...
This is right out of the lead ban, so why the hell is there a ban on kids dirt bikes? This is so frustating.

(2) EXCEPTION FOR INACCESSIBLE COMPONENT PARTS.—
(A) IN GENERAL.—The limits established under subsection
(a) shall not apply to any component part of a
children’s product that is not accessible to a child through
Applicability.
normal and reasonably foreseeable use and abuse of such
product, as determined by the Commission. A component
part is not accessible under this subparagraph if such
component part is not physically exposed by reason of
a sealed covering or casing and does not become physically
exposed through reasonably foreseeable use and abuse of
the product. Reasonably foreseeable use and abuse shall
include to, swallowing, mouthing, breaking, or other children’s
activities, and the aging of the product.
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Exactly knee jerk reaction by the OEM's because they get sued for every dam little thing out there........

over cautious but for sure who can blame them????


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Do you honestly think this is coincidental? How long have they been trying to eliminate kids from riding ATV's?
todder
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3/3/2009 10:36am
The same people who want healthy kids and to be active outside instead of sitting in front of the TV now ban them from a sport that teaches so many good values including hard work, good sportsmanship, ect.
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3/3/2009 10:56am
And what of valve stems? They are one of the parts with lead in them.
How about aluminum alloy engine casings. Those are pretty exposed. They are also one of the parts with lead.
On an ATV, the battery and its terminals are lead. The battery compartment is easily opened for serviceability. Is that accessible to a child in normal use/play?

You can see why the OEM's are concerned about the rule.

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todder
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3/3/2009 11:05am
Does anyone know the actual bill number on this so I can look up the actual vote in Congress?
TGTech
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3/3/2009 11:32am
todder wrote:
Does anyone know the actual bill number on this so I can look up the actual vote in Congress?
I believe that is HR4040.

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The charge cord on a cell phone says to wash your hands after touching, since it may have lead in it.

motofab36
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3/3/2009 12:35pm
They should ban kids from fishing, you know kids like to eat those lead sinkers.
Matt Fisher
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motofab36 wrote:
They should ban kids from fishing, you know kids like to eat those lead sinkers.
You don't think the nutballs at PETA aren't hard at work on this already?
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Vote Number: House Vote #1185 in 2007 [primary source]
Date: Dec 19, 2007 4:36PM
Result: Passed
Related Bill: H.R. 4040 [110th]: Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act of 2008
Totals
All Votes

Needed To Win
Yea: 407 (94%)

Democrats Republicans Independents
215 192 0

Nay: 0 (0%)

Present: 0 (0%)

Not Voting: 25 (6%)
Democrats Republicans Independents
16 9 0
Required: 2/3 of 407 votes (=272 votes)

**NOTE** NO ONE VOTED "NAY"
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SENATE VOTE

Vote Number: Senate Vote #41 in 2008 [primary source]
Date: Mar 6, 2008 4:53PM
Result: Bill Passed
Related Bill: H.R. 4040 [110th]: Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act of 2008
Totals
All Votes

Needed To Win
Yea: 79 (79%)
Democrats Republicans Independents
44 33 2
Nay: 13 (13%)
0 13 0
Present: 0 (0%)
0 0 0
Not Voting: 8 (8%)
5 3 0
flarider
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FINAL SENATE VOTE AFTER CONFERENCE COMMITTEE COMBINED HOUSE AND SENATE VERSIONS


Vote Number: Senate Vote #193 in 2008 [primary source]
Date: Jul 31, 2008 8:01PM
Result: Conference Report Agreed to
Related Bill: H.R. 4040 [110th]: Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act of 2008
Totals
All Votes

Needed To Win
Yea: 89 (89%)
Democrats Republicans Independents
45 42 2
Nay: 3 (3%)
0 3 0
Present: 0 (0%)
0 0 0
Not Voting: 8 (8%)
4 4 0
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3/3/2009 5:33pm
I think the politicos are less to blame in this specific instance than the legal departments of the OEMs, who are overreacting.

Has Cobra shut down?
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3/3/2009 5:38pm
This dosnt make sense to me why wont they let kids ride anymore

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