Why not add a 125 Two Stroke class?

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Edited Date/Time 2/3/2014 6:32pm
If Wilson had a faster lap time than any 450, why not add a 125 two stroke class?
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Yes. This thread has been done to death.
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downard254 2/2/2014 9:24am
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Careful, you may start a massive pissing contest.

I, for one, would love to see AND hear a 125 two stroke class. I wouldn't be against them adding a 250 class as we'll.
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downard254 2/2/2014 9:25am
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GuyB wrote:
Yes. This thread has been done to death.
Awwww, nipped me at the finish GuyB.
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slipdog 2/2/2014 9:26am
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My thoughts are, that may or may not be a 125 you posted.

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newmann 2/2/2014 9:32am
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Why not? Well, first off because the AMA is chock full of idiots. They were a decade ago and still are today.
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Outsider 2/2/2014 9:34am
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Should have a leather helmet class as well... clearly the OP has been wearing one too long.
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newmann 2/2/2014 9:38am
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The AMA rules state that a 125 2 stroke and a 250 2 stroke belong in the same class, along with a 250 4 stroke. Yet at the same time their rules also won't allow anything over 125cc 2 stroke in the same class as a 250 4 stroke.

Say what??? No, say WTF....Huh

The greedy phuckers were too busy stealing from their members to pay attention to what the hell they were doing.
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AP_151 2/2/2014 9:39am
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Let's make the KTM Junior SX challenge a championship series too while we're at it.
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newmann 2/2/2014 9:42am
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AP_151 wrote:
Let's make the KTM Junior SX challenge a championship series too while we're at it.
Top three from each round meets in Vegas for a final showdown?
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GuyB wrote:
Yes. This thread has been done to death.
You know what would stop it?
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GuyB wrote:
Yes. This thread has been done to death.
I overly agree with this.
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GuyB wrote:
Yes. This thread has been done to death.
downard254 wrote:
Awwww, nipped me at the finish GuyB.
I saw the title and was going to look for my beating a dead horse gif
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GuyB 2/2/2014 9:57am
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Vecchia Scuola wrote:
I do agree,
why not??
A couple reasons?

You'd need all the manufacturers doing it. Not just Yamaha and KTM.

You'd also need bikes that are homologated for it. I don't think anyone does that.
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Why? I can't imagine a fan of the sport watching these races and wanting more.
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newmann 2/2/2014 10:02am
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GuyB wrote:
A couple reasons? You'd need all the manufacturers doing it. Not just Yamaha and KTM. You'd also need bikes that are homologated for it. I don't...
A couple reasons?

You'd need all the manufacturers doing it. Not just Yamaha and KTM.

You'd also need bikes that are homologated for it. I don't think anyone does that.
Why would you need bikes that are homologated for it? I think a simple set of rules would suffice just fine.
Production based,125cc, no "works parts".....

Yamaha and KTM? Yeah, let's not mention TM or the Husky that Vital MX pimped up for the GH race.
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newmann 2/2/2014 10:02am
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GrapeApe wrote:
Why? I can't imagine a fan of the sport watching these races and wanting more.
Laughing
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GuyB 2/2/2014 10:08am
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newmann wrote:
Why would you need bikes that are homologated for it? I think a simple set of rules would suffice just fine. Production based,125cc, no "works parts"...
Why would you need bikes that are homologated for it? I think a simple set of rules would suffice just fine.
Production based,125cc, no "works parts".....

Yamaha and KTM? Yeah, let's not mention TM or the Husky that Vital MX pimped up for the GH race.
Yeah, maybe both the TM125s here in the U.S. could make it. Wink

And yes, there is Husky.

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newmann 2/2/2014 10:13am
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newmann wrote:
Why would you need bikes that are homologated for it? I think a simple set of rules would suffice just fine. Production based,125cc, no "works parts"...
Why would you need bikes that are homologated for it? I think a simple set of rules would suffice just fine.
Production based,125cc, no "works parts".....

Yamaha and KTM? Yeah, let's not mention TM or the Husky that Vital MX pimped up for the GH race.
GuyB wrote:
Yeah, maybe both the TM125s here in the U.S. could make it. Wink

And yes, there is Husky.
Yeah, maybe both the TM125s here in the U.S. could make it.

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GuyB 2/2/2014 10:16am
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newmann wrote:
[i]Yeah, maybe both the TM125s here in the U.S. could make it.[/i] [img]https://www.bleachernation.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/iowa-field-of-dreams.jpeg[/img]
Yeah, maybe both the TM125s here in the U.S. could make it.

Crop circles? Aliens landing?
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BBTSMX.ORG is working on the ridiculous AMA engine rule, stupid engine classes, lites. SX. 250/450 when it is really a "F" stroke only class.
My wife asked me when watching SX a few years back "when do the heavies race?" she thought after seeing the lites class there would be a heavy class. I laughed and thought to myself the AMA is a bunch of idiots.
We have 14 thousand members on fb and counting, any suggestions other than a petition which we are working on would be greatly appreciated.
Its not a dead horse yet.
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Whatever happened to all the twostrokemotocross riders?
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newmann wrote:
Why would you need bikes that are homologated for it? I think a simple set of rules would suffice just fine. Production based,125cc, no "works parts"...
Why would you need bikes that are homologated for it? I think a simple set of rules would suffice just fine.
Production based,125cc, no "works parts".....

Yamaha and KTM? Yeah, let's not mention TM or the Husky that Vital MX pimped up for the GH race.
I like seeing the engineering part of it, I say run what ya brung as in the 90's. There is plenty of Killer looking 125 machines out there right now that would put on a great show.
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newmann wrote:
Why would you need bikes that are homologated for it? I think a simple set of rules would suffice just fine. Production based,125cc, no "works parts"...
Why would you need bikes that are homologated for it? I think a simple set of rules would suffice just fine.
Production based,125cc, no "works parts".....

Yamaha and KTM? Yeah, let's not mention TM or the Husky that Vital MX pimped up for the GH race.
GuyB wrote:
Yeah, maybe both the TM125s here in the U.S. could make it. Wink

And yes, there is Husky.
newmann wrote:
[i]Yeah, maybe both the TM125s here in the U.S. could make it.[/i] [img]https://www.bleachernation.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/iowa-field-of-dreams.jpeg[/img]
Yeah, maybe both the TM125s here in the U.S. could make it.

This! I don't care how many times these threads show up and the same people throw in their circular reasoning against them. It makes sense and if there is only two brands now, watch what happens the following year. If you build it....
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Cygnus 2/2/2014 10:25am
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Pretty sure there wouldnt be room for it in the current TV package.
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GuyB 2/2/2014 10:26am
2/2/2014 10:26am Edited Date/Time 2/2/2014 10:27am
Bring Back Two Stroke MX wrote:
BBTSMX.ORG is working on the ridiculous AMA engine rule, stupid engine classes, lites. SX. 250/450 when it is really a "F" stroke only class. My wife...
BBTSMX.ORG is working on the ridiculous AMA engine rule, stupid engine classes, lites. SX. 250/450 when it is really a "F" stroke only class.
My wife asked me when watching SX a few years back "when do the heavies race?" she thought after seeing the lites class there would be a heavy class. I laughed and thought to myself the AMA is a bunch of idiots.
We have 14 thousand members on fb and counting, any suggestions other than a petition which we are working on would be greatly appreciated.
Its not a dead horse yet.
Apparently it is a dead horse. Wink

Jbrandmx85 2/2/2014 10:27am
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I don't think 125's would be a good pro class nowadays. As much as I love 2 strokes, they are more of an amateur learning bike nowadays. Don't get me wrong, I think the rules are bs. A 250f and 250t should be able to race the same class. But 125's are just too small for pro racing these days. The game changed when 450's came into the picture
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zippy895 2/2/2014 10:33am
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because the cam chain would make the powervalve stick.
they don't even make a powerband in that color.

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