Why is there two rounds at Pala?

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Edited Date/Time 6/6/2022 11:23am
The only time I remember a track being ran two times in a year was due to another track flooding. Is there really no other tracks worthy or fit for holding a national?
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langhammx 6/4/2022 8:42pm
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You must of missed the pandemic we just had
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HondaFan33 6/4/2022 9:00pm
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Hard to believe there is not 12 national caliber tracks who want to host a race.
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My question as well. DC has talked about finding other tracks in other states but stiil 2 rounds at that place.
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RonSkj 6/5/2022 12:07am
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mb60 wrote:
My question as well. DC has talked about finding other tracks in other states but stiil 2 rounds at that place.
There's another track about an hour north of Pala, that I hear would be an excellent place to have a national mx race.
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FIREfish148 6/5/2022 12:21am
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langhammx wrote:
You must of missed the pandemic we just had
Oh my bad, totally forgot about that. Yeah
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Boomslang 6/5/2022 12:24am
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HondaFan33 wrote:
Hard to believe there is not 12 national caliber tracks who want to host a race.
Area 51 (3323 Harloff Rd, Batavia, NY 14020) wants a National but I believe there is some politics blocking them. It's a world class venue.

https://www.area51motocross.com/


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Baton Rouge 6/5/2022 1:12am
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Hope DC will find a way to find another venue for the final round, it sucks to see a track twice
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Jaze 6/5/2022 4:20am
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Mammoth mx racetrack would be cool. Pala is just manmade flat track.
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NorCalRedRyder 6/5/2022 5:31am
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Because Socal is still the center of MX racing in the states. With that said I would love to see Glen Helen back on the schedule.
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Jaze wrote:
Mammoth mx racetrack would be cool. Pala is just manmade flat track.
Mammoth mx races were awesome.
The old norba races were legendary.
Uphill, X-C, and the kamikaze DH was epic.

Rode expert, and semi pro DH here on the east coast.
But nothing as blazingly fast as that DH.

John Tomac in his skinsuit and 60 tooth chainring was a sight to see.
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OR Racer46 6/5/2022 7:06am
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Mammoth Lol can you Imagine the parking Nitemare that would be Let alone trying to shuttle the fans in .
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yak651 6/5/2022 7:34am
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langhammx wrote:
You must of missed the pandemic we just had
‘20 valid reason, ‘21 eh maybe, but now? Nah think we need a different excuse this time
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Pala is not my favorite venue but it still produces a good race for me, but the need for two rounds there is unacceptable in my world. The Nationals can do better, come on!
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yak651 wrote:
‘20 valid reason, ‘21 eh maybe, but now? Nah think we need a different excuse this time
To be clear, I was just pointing out that we just had multi rounds at a few facilities. I’d like nothing more than to have Glen Helen back on the schedule, but it doesn’t seem like we will have that.

There are plenty of tracks that would be a great race track for a national, but from what I have read/heard, the tracks have to pay a lot of money to hold the race at their facility, along with a long list of upgrades to their facility to meet the demands of powers to be. Most tracks can not afford to do this and it just doesn’t make financial sense to do so.

As much as I like Mammoth and have spent the last 30 years racing there, it will never hold a national race there and without adding a bunch of new sections/ jumps, it doesn’t make for a national caliber track. Not to mention the logistical nightmare it would be, to get everyone back into the track.

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I’m sure I missed something but why no more WW ranch ? I think Covid had something to do with it back in 2020 .. but it’s been gone since 🤷‍♂️ bring Muddy Creek back. not the best facility for a National but it’s better than Pala .. TWICE
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Chris_Buehler 6/5/2022 9:02am
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ShipLap wrote:
Bring back Glen Helen !!
It's beating a dead horse but yes please! I would make the trip out from CT if they ever brought it back
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jorgechavez 6/5/2022 9:06am
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I wouldn’t mind two rounds at any other track but Pala just sucks to watch to be honest
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yak651 6/5/2022 9:09am
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shmacky78 wrote:
I’m sure I missed something but why no more WW ranch ? I think Covid had something to do with it back in 2020 .. but...
I’m sure I missed something but why no more WW ranch ? I think Covid had something to do with it back in 2020 .. but it’s been gone since 🤷‍♂️ bring Muddy Creek back. not the best facility for a National but it’s better than Pala .. TWICE
It was too hot at WW, but not at the end of the year Pala last year when it was 100
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vincefriese 6/5/2022 9:13am
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For those that have been to both Pala and Glen Helen nationals... which has the worse traffic getting out? I heard Pala took some people 3 hours to get out
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yak651 6/5/2022 9:21am
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yak651 wrote:
‘20 valid reason, ‘21 eh maybe, but now? Nah think we need a different excuse this time
langhammx wrote:
To be clear, I was just pointing out that we just had multi rounds at a few facilities. I’d like nothing more than to have Glen...
To be clear, I was just pointing out that we just had multi rounds at a few facilities. I’d like nothing more than to have Glen Helen back on the schedule, but it doesn’t seem like we will have that.

There are plenty of tracks that would be a great race track for a national, but from what I have read/heard, the tracks have to pay a lot of money to hold the race at their facility, along with a long list of upgrades to their facility to meet the demands of powers to be. Most tracks can not afford to do this and it just doesn’t make financial sense to do so.

As much as I like Mammoth and have spent the last 30 years racing there, it will never hold a national race there and without adding a bunch of new sections/ jumps, it doesn’t make for a national caliber track. Not to mention the logistical nightmare it would be, to get everyone back into the track.

Why does it have to cost so much? Many complain about the greedy Italian holding teams and tracks hostage overseas, but seems things aren’t much better over here. I’ve been to Millville, Red Bud, Iron Man and Budds Creek. They are nice facilities but haven’t seen any amazing infrastructure in place at any of them. Seems MX Sports “could” have a race somewhere else, maybe not make as much profit, but the don’t want to. Their business, their choice, but that choice may bring out some critics of the plan (and no I wouldn’t want to deal with Bud either, I know we don’t know the entire story, but it seems he’s been given every opportunity to hold a national again)
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KennyT 6/5/2022 9:32am
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Jaze wrote:
Mammoth mx racetrack would be cool. Pala is just manmade flat track.
I agree it is a awesome venue but no way could it handle a National size crowd
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langhammx 6/5/2022 9:34am
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yak651 wrote:
Why does it have to cost so much? Many complain about the greedy Italian holding teams and tracks hostage overseas, but seems things aren’t much better...
Why does it have to cost so much? Many complain about the greedy Italian holding teams and tracks hostage overseas, but seems things aren’t much better over here. I’ve been to Millville, Red Bud, Iron Man and Budds Creek. They are nice facilities but haven’t seen any amazing infrastructure in place at any of them. Seems MX Sports “could” have a race somewhere else, maybe not make as much profit, but the don’t want to. Their business, their choice, but that choice may bring out some critics of the plan (and no I wouldn’t want to deal with Bud either, I know we don’t know the entire story, but it seems he’s been given every opportunity to hold a national again)
Good question. I could speculate the costs, but I’d only be guessing. I’m all in for replacing Pala for a different venue, hopefully mxsports can figure something out to please the fans.
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GG121 6/6/2022 9:41am
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HondaFan33 wrote:
Hard to believe there is not 12 national caliber tracks who want to host a race.
Boomslang wrote:
Area 51 (3323 Harloff Rd, Batavia, NY 14020) wants a National but I believe there is some politics blocking them. It's a world class venue. https://www.area51motocross.com/...
Area 51 (3323 Harloff Rd, Batavia, NY 14020) wants a National but I believe there is some politics blocking them. It's a world class venue.

https://www.area51motocross.com/


Area 51 or Miles Mountain would be incredible for a national.
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nskerb 6/6/2022 10:07am
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I am biased but 2 washougals would be better.
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ML512 6/6/2022 10:20am
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Jaze wrote:
Mammoth mx racetrack would be cool. Pala is just manmade flat track.
Mammoth would be epic but the facilities aren't even close to the size needed to host a National. Even for the amateur race, Kawasaki can't bring their rig into the property. It's impossible. And the track is only permitted to be raced on once a year.
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GG121 6/6/2022 11:17am
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We need another deep sand track
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McG194 6/6/2022 11:23am
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GG121 wrote:
We need another deep sand track
Coming in 2023 The Croom National.

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