Why doesn’t JGR take over KTM’s 250 program?

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KTM brought the program inhouse.
That program has a title sponsor.
It get's complicated from there.

Probably because it wasn't offered and it's too late to switch brands.

TeamGreen wrote:

KTM brought the program inhouse.
That program has a title sponsor.
It get's complicated from there.

Seems they would have hired more then one rider.

TeamGreen wrote:

KTM brought the program inhouse.
That program has a title sponsor.
It get's complicated from there.

mb60 wrote:

Seems they would have hired more then one rider.

Their Title Sponsor, Red Bull, has spread it's funding between two separtate entities...
Red Bull KTM (3 riders)
Red Bull TLD GasGas (3 riders)

Eventhough it's the same amount of riders as last year's Red Bull "Team" (Technically it was also 2 teams; but, one brand)...now it's spread between two different branding scenarios and that simply costs more...well...sorta...it costs more on KTM's end of it.

The parent company of KTM wanted a New Brand with a New Race Team; and, I get the feeling Red Bull was part of the decision making and untlmately decided "how" the money would be spent between the 2 brands. I also get the feeling that Red Bull -wanted- to be a part of whatever Troy was doing. The evidence of that is in the branding on the GasGas bikes I saw this last week or 2...they look VERY Red Bull...in a good way

Then KTM decided what to do with the money the got for "Team KTM" from Red Bull: They're gonna have -1- 250 rider...for now.

In the bigger-broader picture: There's 6 Factory Pro's at Husky, 3 at RB KTM and 3 at RB-TLD-GasGas. That's A LOT of riders!

Btw, why 6 riders at Husky? Well, I'm guessing that's the way "their" title sponsor wanted it

TeamGreen wrote:

Their Title Sponsor, Red Bull, has spread it's funding between two separtate entities...
Red Bull KTM (3 riders)
Red Bull TLD GasGas (3 riders)

Eventhough it's the same amount of riders as last year's Red Bull "Team" (Technically it was also 2 teams; but, one brand)...now it's spread between two different branding scenarios and that simply costs more...well...sorta...it costs more on KTM's end of it.

The parent company of KTM wanted a New Brand with a New Race Team; and, I get the feeling Red Bull was part of the decision making and untlmately decided "how" the money would be spent between the 2 brands. I also get the feeling that Red Bull -wanted- to be a part of whatever Troy was doing. The evidence of that is in the branding on the GasGas bikes I saw this last week or 2...they look VERY Red Bull...in a good way

Then KTM decided what to do with the money the got for "Team KTM" from Red Bull: They're gonna have -1- 250 rider...for now.

In the bigger-broader picture: There's 6 Factory Pro's at Husky, 3 at RB KTM and 3 at RB-TLD-GasGas. That's A LOT of riders!

Btw, why 6 riders at Husky? Well, I'm guessing that's the way "their" title sponsor wanted it

Now that is some inside information. Thanks for clearing that up.

JGR couldn't run their own Team, so why would Roger have them run part of his?

Roger Dickoster

mb60 wrote:

Seems they would have hired more then one rider.

TeamGreen wrote:

Their Title Sponsor, Red Bull, has spread it's funding between two separtate entities...
Red Bull KTM (3 riders)
Red Bull TLD GasGas (3 riders)

Eventhough it's the same amount of riders as last year's Red Bull "Team" (Technically it was also 2 teams; but, one brand)...now it's spread between two different branding scenarios and that simply costs more...well...sorta...it costs more on KTM's end of it.

The parent company of KTM wanted a New Brand with a New Race Team; and, I get the feeling Red Bull was part of the decision making and untlmately decided "how" the money would be spent between the 2 brands. I also get the feeling that Red Bull -wanted- to be a part of whatever Troy was doing. The evidence of that is in the branding on the GasGas bikes I saw this last week or 2...they look VERY Red Bull...in a good way

Then KTM decided what to do with the money the got for "Team KTM" from Red Bull: They're gonna have -1- 250 rider...for now.

In the bigger-broader picture: There's 6 Factory Pro's at Husky, 3 at RB KTM and 3 at RB-TLD-GasGas. That's A LOT of riders!

Btw, why 6 riders at Husky? Well, I'm guessing that's the way "their" title sponsor wanted it

mb60 wrote:

Now that is some inside information. Thanks for clearing that up.

How on earth is that ‘inside’ information?

It’s fact.. we can all see it..

TeamGreen wrote:

Their Title Sponsor, Red Bull, has spread it's funding between two separtate entities...
Red Bull KTM (3 riders)
Red Bull TLD GasGas (3 riders)

Eventhough it's the same amount of riders as last year's Red Bull "Team" (Technically it was also 2 teams; but, one brand)...now it's spread between two different branding scenarios and that simply costs more...well...sorta...it costs more on KTM's end of it.

The parent company of KTM wanted a New Brand with a New Race Team; and, I get the feeling Red Bull was part of the decision making and untlmately decided "how" the money would be spent between the 2 brands. I also get the feeling that Red Bull -wanted- to be a part of whatever Troy was doing. The evidence of that is in the branding on the GasGas bikes I saw this last week or 2...they look VERY Red Bull...in a good way

Then KTM decided what to do with the money the got for "Team KTM" from Red Bull: They're gonna have -1- 250 rider...for now.

In the bigger-broader picture: There's 6 Factory Pro's at Husky, 3 at RB KTM and 3 at RB-TLD-GasGas. That's A LOT of riders!

Btw, why 6 riders at Husky? Well, I'm guessing that's the way "their" title sponsor wanted it

mb60 wrote:

Now that is some inside information. Thanks for clearing that up.

Thisusernameisavailable wrote:

How on earth is that ‘inside’ information?

It’s fact.. we can all see it..

I think he was being sarcastic..

Maybe no manufacturer really has the money or desire to align with JGR. Its a shame. The sport is really contracting. If it wasn't for KTM sponsoring four teams it would be a total disaster.

motoarmageddon wrote:

Roger Dickoster

Might depend on if he's working for you or, if you're working for him. If you don't put in the effort, I can't imagine him wasting much time on you.