Why can't Women go as fast as men?

Steadman wrote:

Percentile. There are very few women who ride, let alone at a competitive level. I would imagine there are some women on this fine earth that...

Percentile. There are very few women who ride, let alone at a competitive level. I would imagine there are some women on this fine earth that would have the genetics and ability to ride pro and hang with the men....but they don't ride. Make sense?

On an amateur level I have witnessed some very fast girls and am not ashamed to say I have been passed by some as well!

MANNERS226 wrote:

Also, a good point

Question wrote:

+1. The first reason is %, although it is also normal there is a little difference simply due to genetics, like in many other sports. But...

+1. The first reason is %, although it is also normal there is a little difference simply due to genetics, like in many other sports. But there are doing great, the top 10 women are going faster than 99,99% of the boys !

Sweendoggy wrote:

I think it's a combination of statistics and testosterone. If there were the same amount of male and female riders, I think the gap would be...

I think it's a combination of statistics and testosterone. If there were the same amount of male and female riders, I think the gap would be closer at the top.

On the other side, I don't think women are as intense as men in general. Women are smart, and smart doesn't twist the throttle that hard.

Underdog999 wrote:

It is NOT a numbers game. Men are stronger than women..... period. This sport is very physically demanding. Look at all the training the top mx...

It is NOT a numbers game.

Men are stronger than women..... period. This sport is very physically demanding. Look at all the training the top mx riders do to be the best. I don't care if the Williams sister tried mx, the top women soccer plays rode mx all of their lives, etc... they would not ride as fast as the top racers right now. I once was a top female athlete, I excel at many sports, but don't come close to men at any of them at the top. Never will. Men are just built differently.

Underdog999 wrote:

It is NOT a numbers game. Men are stronger than women..... period. This sport is very physically demanding. Look at all the training the top mx...

It is NOT a numbers game.

Men are stronger than women..... period. This sport is very physically demanding. Look at all the training the top mx riders do to be the best. I don't care if the Williams sister tried mx, the top women soccer plays rode mx all of their lives, etc... they would not ride as fast as the top racers right now. I once was a top female athlete, I excel at many sports, but don't come close to men at any of them at the top. Never will. Men are just built differently.

IWreckALot wrote:

You generally don't see the most testosterone laden guys doing figure skating and gymnastics. Some impressively strong males participate in those sports, but those are made...

You generally don't see the most testosterone laden guys doing figure skating and gymnastics. Some impressively strong males participate in those sports, but those are made for female sports.

GeorgiePorgie wrote:

There's a girl that rides a factory kx 100 under the kawi tent. She might be the ticket. Our society gears women towards other things...i think...

There's a girl that rides a factory kx 100 under the kawi tent. She might be the ticket.

Our society gears women towards other things...i think if women had more chances they would locate some to be parallel. After all we only have one chromosome worth a difference. We are all human. A woman will eventually become a dominate contender in our sport. Only a matter of time.

steve_97060 wrote:

not physical based, ok..

IWreckALot wrote:

You generally don't see the most testosterone laden guys doing figure skating and gymnastics. Some impressively strong males participate in those sports, but those are made...

You generally don't see the most testosterone laden guys doing figure skating and gymnastics. Some impressively strong males participate in those sports, but those are made for female sports.

GER_shortymx wrote:

Well I'd say it is a physical thing. I think in the most physical demanding sports even the best women are barely in mid pack, just...

Well I'd say it is a physical thing. I think in the most physical demanding sports even the best women are barely in mid pack, just like in moto. I don't know why exactly though too, but you should consider that there are more aspects than just strength. Endurance, mental toughness and so on.

Sweendoggy wrote:

I think it's a combination of statistics and testosterone. If there were the same amount of male and female riders, I think the gap would be...

I think it's a combination of statistics and testosterone. If there were the same amount of male and female riders, I think the gap would be closer at the top.

On the other side, I don't think women are as intense as men in general. Women are smart, and smart doesn't twist the throttle that hard.

tmauto769 wrote:

I think this is the best answer so far, along with smarter, I think women have a better self preservation gene, if there is such a...

I think this is the best answer so far, along with smarter, I think women have a better self preservation gene, if there is such a thing.

HoppedUp wrote:

There are 20 girls in my local gym that would out work and out train Top Jimmy in their sleep and ask Albertson, Bro, have you...

There are 20 girls in my local gym that would out work and out train Top Jimmy in their sleep and ask Albertson,
Bro, have you ever lifted? Anything?

And they are like 120 Lbs.

This sport is not physical based. It's talent based.

Look at AC. No physical conditioning at all and looks unhealthy as hell for an 18 year old.
But he has talent.

Sir Roostsalot wrote:

Adrenal glands and production of adrenaline is much higher in men than in women. Testosterone aids in the delivery of adrenaline via the central nervous system...

Adrenal glands and production of adrenaline is much higher in men than in women. Testosterone aids in the delivery of adrenaline via the central nervous system. Research "fight or flight" response for more info on this. "it's evolution baby"

bronwynrayne wrote:

UNPOPULAR OPINION When you are a little girl, you are valued for how pretty you are, you are compared to/called a princess, you receive tea sets...

UNPOPULAR OPINION

When you are a little girl, you are valued for how pretty you are, you are compared to/called a princess, you receive tea sets and easy bake ovens as presents, dresses are marketed to you, pink is marketed to you, barbies and dollies are marketed to you. When you are a little boy, you are valued for your abilities, you are expected to rough house and scrape your knees, bikes are marketed to you, supersoakers are marketed to you, skateboards and tonka trucks and hot wheels are all marketed to you.

When children receive attention in certain areas, it encourages expansion in the areas they are receiving praise in, and when a child is exposed frequently to an idea or subject, it inspires interest for that subject in them. Inherently, we teach girls to be concerned about being pretty, to be interested in fashion and host parties and take care of children; at the same time we are teaching little boys to construct things, to experiment with physics, to get their hands dirty and learn coordination through bikes or skateboards. Those that break that mould are condemned for it.

I was a wild child; my parents couldn't keep clothes on me, I climbed trees and ripped my clothes, rode bikes, chased horses in the pasture, and got as filthy as I could. By grade four I had broken my wrists three times from riding horses and snowboarding, and one particularly rowdy game of hide and seek. My parents encouraged my exploration of the world around me, but they were chastised for it by my friends' parents because my best friends were boys- because I was expected to be a little lady, and these rambunctious activities diverged from that idea of what people thought little girls should be. Pink, pretty, clean. Consider the opposite, where we humiliate little boys for showing an interest in traditionally female oriented subjects.

Because being girly is being weak. Because being scared is being a pussy. Because any traditionally female characteristic comes with a negative connotation.

I believe this mentality has had a negative effect on men aswell, But to stay on topic I will leave that out.

When support for women in the sport increases, lap times will shrink. We are already seeing a generational shift away from toys marketed to one gender in particular, and I am a huge supporter of this movement. There is a new generation of girls being brought up in sports, and I truly believe that the gap between men and women in professional extreme sports is going to shrink. We have already witnessed it in skiing and skateboarding, which are really the only other sports that I care about, and this is due to support from the community, from men in the sport, and from our families. Oh, and supporting other women in the sport. Cause being bitches is the most detrimental thing we can do to eachother.

Here is a photo of me with my besties just to support my earlier paragraph.

Steadman wrote:

Percentile. There are very few women who ride, let alone at a competitive level. I would imagine there are some women on this fine earth that...

Percentile. There are very few women who ride, let alone at a competitive level. I would imagine there are some women on this fine earth that would have the genetics and ability to ride pro and hang with the men....but they don't ride. Make sense?

On an amateur level I have witnessed some very fast girls and am not ashamed to say I have been passed by some as well!

bronwynrayne wrote:

As always with these stupid threads, this is extremely off topic. If you don't agree that's fine but that dudes lack of perspective and empathy is...

As always with these stupid threads, this is extremely off topic. If you don't agree that's fine but that dudes lack of perspective and empathy is annoying. Just because someone has a popular opinion does not make them credible.

Sir Roostsalot wrote:

Adrenal glands and production of adrenaline is much higher in men than in women. Testosterone aids in the delivery of adrenaline via the central nervous system...

Adrenal glands and production of adrenaline is much higher in men than in women. Testosterone aids in the delivery of adrenaline via the central nervous system. Research "fight or flight" response for more info on this. "it's evolution baby"

Sir Roostsalot wrote:

Adrenaline increases the the efficiency of nearly all muscle groups in the body, the heart, the lungs, capillaries are enlarged, and the overall physicality of all...

Adrenaline increases the the efficiency of nearly all muscle groups in the body, the heart, the lungs, capillaries are enlarged, and the overall physicality of all mammals is enhanced by adrenaline.
If this is not enough evidence and proof for the OP, then I suggest that he apply for gender reassignment surgery, shoot himself full of estrogen for a few years, make a comeback to MX as a transgender athlete and maybe he'll figure it out for himself.

the_wood109 wrote:

I think 83 just misunderstands Thunderf00t. First of all, thunderfoot isn't against womens rights and gender equality. He specifically goes after feminists that are sexists. On...

I think 83 just misunderstands Thunderf00t. First of all, thunderfoot isn't against womens rights and gender equality. He specifically goes after feminists that are sexists. On a foundational level, he basically points out the true meaning of equality. It's the main reason why many people are starting to call themselves "humanists," rather than "feminists." For example, saying "all women should be treated as equals" is the same thing as saying "all men should be treated as equals." His opinions certainly aren't popular, though.

Regardless of this distinction, thunderfoot has nothing too offer in the area of male vs female athletics. Your story is certainly interesting. I honestly don't know enough about it to have an opinion, either way. From a purely anecdotal perspective, I can see your point. I have a young niece and nephew, and I do treat them differently, based on societal constraints (at least partially on my social upbringing.) On the other hand, chemical and genetic factors seem to contribute to male and female capabilities. Girls have a better track record in school, and boys have a better track record in athletics.

Anonymous wrote:

This is a serious question. I race at a local A level, so I'm not ignorant here. But seriously, what is it that keeps women from...

This is a serious question. I race at a local A level, so I'm not ignorant here. But seriously, what is it that keeps women from going as fast as men? I don't understand it. Why are the fastest MX women in the world only at a Loretta's B-class pace? Most are the size of a Villo or RC. It can't be a physical thing. I mean, top 16 year old amateur boys aren't that strong and they can be insanely fast. I just cannot understand why a woman hasn't been able to develop world-class MX speed. Geiger, Fiolek, Golden, Patterson, all awesome women and ambassadors, but not fast enough to make a Supercross Main Event.... Why?