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Was always curious why tracks are tilled like the picture shown here? Maybe track owners can chime in.
The thing I am curious about is why they till the dirt so deep and leave it like that. Why don't they till it and then pack it down more or smooth it so it's not so deep? The bikes just end up creating huge ruts that are not always fun because you have to stay in certain lines rather than riding anywhere you want and then the bikes just drag down in it.
I always like the tracks that till it and then grab the bulldozer and drag it to smooth it out.
The thing I am curious about is why they till the dirt so deep and leave it like that. Why don't they till it and then pack it down more or smooth it so it's not so deep? The bikes just end up creating huge ruts that are not always fun because you have to stay in certain lines rather than riding anywhere you want and then the bikes just drag down in it.
I always like the tracks that till it and then grab the bulldozer and drag it to smooth it out.
I mean they need to till the tracks I just wish they would go back over it and smooth it. Not necessarily pack it but just smooth it. Would be so much more fun to ride in my opinion.
Personally, I have always preferred a harder packed track at the end of the day as opposed to a bunch of mal-formed ruts that were established in the early morning when the track was soggy and slow and the riders couldn't lay the bikes down in a corner.
The Shop
That's not tilled deep either by the looks of it...
You guys are cracking me up. So now water and ripping to prep track isn't real motocross.
I love a good rough and rutted track. The blue groove riding on ice rink is no more real motocross then a sand race or mud race. Tracks differ, dirt differs, and the elements is always a variable.
I give up.....
When ruts form in straights I actually do not like riding. Its stupid.
Although, I would think the real old timers would say natural grass is "real" mx. I have been fortunate enough to ride on freshly rained on grass fields, heaven on earth.
I have also ridden on freshly plowed tracks, tricky to start, but freakn awesome once ridden on for a while.
Last thing, fuck crashing on blue groove, I will take disced ground any day for that single reason.
But then again there are some who love parking fat chicks too.
To each there own....
Most good dirt will not hold moisture at all if it isn't ripped and soaked.
So remember that when you're pissed because the track was muddy in AM warm up/practice!
Because it will be perfect for the rest of the day.
Once you lose it, there's no getting it back.
Watering(correctly) is an art!
Don't forget that a rough rutted track brings the speeds down as well. There's a reason Decoster and a bunch of other team managers and riders asked for the national tracks to be ripped deeper. They wanted the tracks rough! The Euros don't even touch most of the track between the 2 days of racing and we in the states wonder how they are getting so much better.
I prefer ruts and gnarly braking bumps!
Pit Row
So I guess it's not the same as GPs?
Good on them for doing it though.
I think that is called a Cultipacker. Great for prep...
The Euro / GP way is to not rip it that deep, then never touch the track. They rip it maybe 6-10". The AMA way is to rip it DEEP. 24"+. When you rip it that deep, you have to do some follow up work on the track throughout the weekend.
All this talk about GP tracks being rougher is a bit of BS. It is a different kind of rough, much choppier with square edges and a harder under-base. When you rip it really deep, you get bigger bumps, but they tend to be rounder. With the deep rip, the dirt maintains some give.
These sorts of differences can make a big different on getting suspension dialed in.
Some good comments here about the best of both worlds. Rip the corners like the AMA, but do a shallower rip on the straights, etc.
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