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6/12/2018 12:54 PM

To take over the #5 and # 7''s?
5= Zaco
7= AP

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6/12/2018 12:59 PM

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I was hoping Zacho would take 8. Interested to see who takes 7

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6/12/2018 1:01 PM

fox1nz wrote:

To take over the #5 and # 7''s?
5= Zaco
7= AP

Well, Osborne has 16 as a career number and Plessinger isn't eligible for a single digit number, so that should settle it for a while at least. Unless Plessinger wins the 250 nationals this year that is.

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6/12/2018 1:02 PM

fox1nz wrote:

To take over the #5 and # 7''s?
5= Zaco
7= AP

It took me a few seconds to understand what you were trying to say.

I totally agree with Zaco taking 5 and AP taking 7. That would be fitting imo.

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6/12/2018 1:03 PM

Poppanator wrote:

Well, Osborne has 16 as a career number and Plessinger isn't eligible for a single digit number, so that should settle it for a while at least. Unless Plessinger wins the 250 nationals this year that is.

He's winning 250 nationals this year. Stamp it.

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6/12/2018 1:06 PM
Edited Date/Time: 6/12/2018 1:07 PM

Zach won a national title last year and chose 16 as his career number.

Plessinger can only choose a single digit number if he wins the outdoor title.

Personally I'd rather see the 8 and 9 back in the field.

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6/12/2018 1:07 PM

National Champion Justin Cooper chooses #7 on the Yammie. Lookin' just like a young KDUB.

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6/12/2018 1:11 PM

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Zach won a national title last year and chose 16 as his career number.

Plessinger can only choose a single digit number if he wins the outdoor title.

Personally I'd rather see the 8 and 9 back in the field.

Yeah me too. What's with the 8. Hasn't been around for a long time.
AP will win the title and take the 7, he might take the eight sort of fitting for a Yama rider I guess.

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6/12/2018 1:13 PM

Ted722 wrote:

National Champion Justin Cooper chooses #7 on the Yammie. Lookin' just like a young KDUB.

This

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6/12/2018 1:16 PM

Ted722 wrote:

National Champion Justin Cooper chooses #7 on the Yammie. Lookin' just like a young KDUB.

Windham also ran 8. I'd like to see the 8 back on a Yamaha. Last guy to run it was Langston.

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6/12/2018 1:20 PM

Fuk do Yamaha own that number or what?

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6/12/2018 1:23 PM

If anyone will look like a young KDUB, it will be Plessinger. If he earns it a single digit, I think he will go with 5, 9 or just stay with 23. 8 looks like crap in my opinion and I don’t think anyone really wants to run the 7.

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6/12/2018 1:24 PM

Maybe a silly question, but. Can they change their career numbers?

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6/12/2018 1:31 PM

fox1nz wrote:

Maybe a silly question, but. Can they change their career numbers?

Yes but only if they won a national championship. Say a national champion wanted to run 5 and it was not yet available once it does become available that rider can then switch to number 5 if he still wants to.

No if they picked a 2 digit number career number unless of course they go on to win a national championship in either 250 or 450 outdoors or a 450 SX title.

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6/12/2018 1:31 PM

WhatsStoppingU wrote:

If anyone will look like a young KDUB, it will be Plessinger. If he earns it a single digit, I think he will go with 5, 9 or just stay with 23. 8 looks like crap in my opinion and I don’t think anyone really wants to run the 7.

I don’t think he looks anything like Windham on the bike.

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6/12/2018 11:46 PM

fox1nz wrote:

Fuk do Yamaha own that number or what?

No and since I was bored with nothing to do here's the history of the number 8 from 1990 to now.

Years it was on a Yamaha

1990 Damon Bradshaw
1992 Jeff Emig
1993 Damon Bradshaw
1998 Kevin Windham
2000 to 2003 Not Used
2004 to 2010 Grant Langston was number 8
Langston rode for Yamaha from 2007 to 2010

The number 8 in the years it was on a different brand.

1991 Jean-Michel Bayle (Honda)
1994 Doug Henry (Honda)
1995 Jeff Stanton (Honda)

1996 Mike LaRocco (Suzuki)
1997 Greg Albertyn (Suzuki)
1999 Greg Albertyn (Suzuki)

2004 Grant Langston (KTM)

2005 Grant Langston (Kawasaki)
2006 Grant Langston (Kawasaki)

Ironically from 1990 to now the number 8 has been on a Yamaha for a total of 8 times. The most of any manufacturer.

Riders that have won titles with the number 8

1991 Jean-Michel Bayle (250MX, 250SX, 500MX)
1992 Jeff Emig (125MX)
1994 Doug Henry (125MX)
1999 Greg Albertyn (250MX)
2007 Grant Langston (450MX)

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6/13/2018 2:12 AM
Edited Date/Time: 6/13/2018 2:13 AM

Sore subject for me. They fucked up the most perfect system there was, all in the name of trying to be like nascar ? I'm going to sound like a bitter old man and will be accused of beating a dead horse but I'll never understand in a million years what the point of semi permanent numbers is. I know we want average fan Billy Joe Jim Bob to know that Mcgrath is # 2, but then it changes it to someone else, and then it changes to someone else, and then it'll be some other guy so why bother ? Call it like it is. Everyone gets a SX # and an outdoor # that represents where they finished last year. We're smart enough to figure out who's who from year to year, aren't we ? Maybe not. Nevermind laughing

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6/13/2018 3:11 AM

Agreed. Numbers should be assigned according to last years finishing position. Yeah, I know it creates marketing issues but it didn't seem to make the riders of old any less marketable.

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6/13/2018 4:02 AM

fox1nz wrote:

Maybe a silly question, but. Can they change their career numbers?

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Yes but only if they won a national championship. Say a national champion wanted to run 5 and it was not yet available once it does become available that rider can then switch to number 5 if he still wants to.

No if they picked a 2 digit number career number unless of course they go on to win a national championship in either 250 or 450 outdoors or a 450 SX title.

I believe Joey Savatgy had career number 37, and then changed it to 17 after the 2016 season. I seem to recall hearing that any rider can change their career number once, as long as they earn it by finishing in the top 10 overall points.

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6/13/2018 7:20 AM

fox1nz wrote:

Maybe a silly question, but. Can they change their career numbers?

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Yes but only if they won a national championship. Say a national champion wanted to run 5 and it was not yet available once it does become available that rider can then switch to number 5 if he still wants to.

No if they picked a 2 digit number career number unless of course they go on to win a national championship in either 250 or 450 outdoors or a 450 SX title.

USA wrote:

I believe Joey Savatgy had career number 37, and then changed it to 17 after the 2016 season. I seem to recall hearing that any rider can change their career number once, as long as they earn it by finishing in the top 10 overall points.

I think you're right. In 2015 Cooper Webb chose number 17 as his career number but then switched to number 2 in 2016 since it was available.

In 2016 Joey Savatgy chose number 37 as his career number but then switched to number 17 in 2017.

So it looks like you can change it once after all. But like you said in order to change it again you have to finish in the top 10 overall in combined points. I don't believe a rider can simply change it the following year just because he wants something new. So basically in order to change it the rider has to earn/re-earn a new career number.

Personally I prefer the run what you earn system.

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6/13/2018 7:41 AM

The guy that earns the 5th and 7th most points this year.

Career numbers work in NASCAR with 20+ years behind the wheel. In MX it was cool to see how the points ended up and seeing the earned numbers

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