Who will take the 7?

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7/15/2018 6:51 PM

Most likely the 7 will be up for grabs, it has been long enough and I doubt another letter saying JS might race again will stave off another year.

So who do you think will grab the 7?

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7/15/2018 6:53 PM

Who hasn't already picked a career number that is eligible?

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7/15/2018 6:53 PM

Joe.

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7/15/2018 6:57 PM

It’s not likely up for grabs it is up for grabs. Possibly Plessinger? He dances like Stewart did and seems to have a similar personality coming into the premier class. Would be a nice fit.

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7/15/2018 7:00 PM

The 5 will be available this year. So I would see that being taken before the 7. I think it’s safe for another year.

Anderson said he’s keeping 21.

Plessinger, Alex Martin, or a long shot in 250s could take it. If Alex wins the title I would see him taking 5, to be 1 better than his brother w00t

If Marvin pulls off the 450 title, he could take 5, which would put AP or AMart being in line for 7. He would have first dibs over the 250 title winner. But he might keep 25.

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7/15/2018 7:03 PM
Edited Date/Time: 7/15/2018 7:04 PM

Only person eligible to take the 7 is whomever wins the 250 national title.

I don't see any of the current 450 guys switching to that number. Ever.

Personally I would rather see someone pick the 8 or 9.

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7/15/2018 7:03 PM

I hate that guys can be single digit before they even compete in the premier class..That's all I have to say haha

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7/15/2018 7:05 PM

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Only person eligible to take the 7 is whomever wins the 250 national title.

I don't see any of the current 450 guys switching to that number. Ever.

Personally I would rather see someone pick the 8 or 9.

“Eligible” is a lot of guys if I’m not mistaken. A new 450 champ could take it too. Musquin is the only one looking like that might happen. I see him sticking to 25.

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7/15/2018 7:10 PM

Although I like 23 I bet 7 would look right at home on AP’s bike!

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7/15/2018 7:10 PM

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Only person eligible to take the 7 is whomever wins the 250 national title.

I don't see any of the current 450 guys switching to that number. Ever.

Personally I would rather see someone pick the 8 or 9.

TDeath21 wrote:

“Eligible” is a lot of guys if I’m not mistaken. A new 450 champ could take it too. Musquin is the only one looking like that might happen. I see him sticking to 25.

Marvin has been number 25 since his mini days. He's not switching to a single digit this late in his career.

And yes a new 450 champ could take a single digit but I honestly don't see any of the current guys who stand a chance at winning the title switching numbers.

Anderson still could but he's said he's keeping the 21.

We'll find out soon enough.

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7/15/2018 7:12 PM

jemcee wrote:

I hate that guys can be single digit before they even compete in the premier class..That's all I have to say haha

Every single digit rider earned their single digit from the 250 class. It’s ridiculous.

2. Webb 2016 250 Nationals
3. Tomac 2013 250 Nationals
4. Baggett 2012 250 Nationals
5. Dungey 2009 250 Nationals
6. Martin 2014 250 Nationals
7. Stewart 2004 125 Nationals

Reed and Roczen run 2 digit numbers even though they are eligible for a single digit from their 450 titles.

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7/15/2018 7:16 PM

TDeath21 wrote:

It’s not likely up for grabs it is up for grabs. Possibly Plessinger? He dances like Stewart did and seems to have a similar personality coming into the premier class. Would be a nice fit.

Is he not on 250’s for another season next year?

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7/15/2018 7:18 PM

TDeath21 wrote:

It’s not likely up for grabs it is up for grabs. Possibly Plessinger? He dances like Stewart did and seems to have a similar personality coming into the premier class. Would be a nice fit.

TymeMoto wrote:

Is he not on 250’s for another season next year?

You don’t have to be on the 450 to run a single digit.

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7/15/2018 7:18 PM

TDeath21 wrote:

It’s not likely up for grabs it is up for grabs. Possibly Plessinger? He dances like Stewart did and seems to have a similar personality coming into the premier class. Would be a nice fit.

TymeMoto wrote:

Is he not on 250’s for another season next year?

SX for sure and Outdoors we will see, even though he says he is moving up. If he get's the championship, tough to see him not running the #1 plate outdoors as well.

Doesn't change the fact really though.

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7/15/2018 7:19 PM

jemcee wrote:

I hate that guys can be single digit before they even compete in the premier class..That's all I have to say haha

KirkChandler wrote:

Every single digit rider earned their single digit from the 250 class. It’s ridiculous.

2. Webb 2016 250 Nationals
3. Tomac 2013 250 Nationals
4. Baggett 2012 250 Nationals
5. Dungey 2009 250 Nationals
6. Martin 2014 250 Nationals
7. Stewart 2004 125 Nationals

Reed and Roczen run 2 digit numbers even though they are eligible for a single digit from their 450 titles.

Yeah I personally think single digits should be for 450 champs only. Although obviously Tomac, Dungey, and Stewart would eventually have been able to get a single digit anyway.

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7/15/2018 7:21 PM

jemcee wrote:

I hate that guys can be single digit before they even compete in the premier class..That's all I have to say haha

KirkChandler wrote:

Every single digit rider earned their single digit from the 250 class. It’s ridiculous.

2. Webb 2016 250 Nationals
3. Tomac 2013 250 Nationals
4. Baggett 2012 250 Nationals
5. Dungey 2009 250 Nationals
6. Martin 2014 250 Nationals
7. Stewart 2004 125 Nationals

Reed and Roczen run 2 digit numbers even though they are eligible for a single digit from their 450 titles.

I agree. Personally I think in order to run a single digit you should win either a 450SX or 450MX title.

250MX national title, get to run a career number between 10 and 20.

Finish top 10 in overall points choose a career number between 20 and 99.

Better yet, run what you earn. Finished 45th in points you run 45 the following year. Careers aren't really long enough to market themselves/the number.

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7/15/2018 7:26 PM

I know this comes up a lot / plenty of times in the past....

- Remind me how Chiz grabbed the 11??

- Remind me how Alessi ran the 800 his entire career, but they wouldn't let Hanny keep his 100??

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7/15/2018 7:27 PM

Go back to run what you earn. Forget this career number crap.

*someone had to say it

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7/15/2018 7:40 PM

-MAVERICK- wrote:

I agree. Personally I think in order to run a single digit you should win either a 450SX or 450MX title.

250MX national title, get to run a career number between 10 and 20.

Finish top 10 in overall points choose a career number between 20 and 99.

Better yet, run what you earn. Finished 45th in points you run 45 the following year. Careers aren't really long enough to market themselves/the number.

Yep agree with all that.. The whole 'market themselves' sounds great but how many riders have really done that with their numbers?
Reed
Stewart
Carmichael is known for #4 but has he done anything with that? (honest question) Besides if it was these current rules he would've only run it once (I think) haha

And those guys are hall of famers

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7/15/2018 7:41 PM

I have a good friend in the AMA, and I have it on good authority that #7 is going to Jason Lawrence next year.

THAT news would seriously cause the internet to blow up. There would be no fixing it, just smoldering pieces of computer everywhere.

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7/15/2018 7:42 PM

-MAVERICK- wrote:

I agree. Personally I think in order to run a single digit you should win either a 450SX or 450MX title.

250MX national title, get to run a career number between 10 and 20.

Finish top 10 in overall points choose a career number between 20 and 99.

Better yet, run what you earn. Finished 45th in points you run 45 the following year. Careers aren't really long enough to market themselves/the number.

It’s crazy that a 1 time 125/250 champ had #3 for over 10 seasons with Mike Brown. Not to pick on Brown, he went by the rules and Snagged a low number.

Then when Deano won his 250 title the #8 was technically the only number available (I don’t remember why the 6 wasn’t considered), but GL wasn’t 100% done done at that point, Dean had no connection to 8, so he kept 15. The next year 4 became eligible then the following year 3 was available.

The only time the issuing of numbers was fair was when they started the program and went with whomever had the most titles, with premier class having the priority.

2. MC- 7 titles at the time
3. Emig- 4 titles
4. RC- 3 titles
5. Larocco- 2 Titles
6. Lamson- 2 titles
7. Albertyn- 1 title
19. Henry- 3 titles

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7/15/2018 7:42 PM

F150Motocrosser wrote:

I know this comes up a lot / plenty of times in the past....

- Remind me how Chiz grabbed the 11??

- Remind me how Alessi ran the 800 his entire career, but they wouldn't let Hanny keep his 100??

Chiz finished in the top 10 overall points many years ago and chose 11 as his career number.

Alessi was grandfathered in before they changed the rules so he could continue to run the 800 as his career number. Can't remember the year the rule changed but 3 digit career numbers were eliminated. That's why Hansen couldn't run the 100 as a career number.

Something like that.

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7/15/2018 7:48 PM

KirkChandler wrote:

Every single digit rider earned their single digit from the 250 class. It’s ridiculous.

2. Webb 2016 250 Nationals
3. Tomac 2013 250 Nationals
4. Baggett 2012 250 Nationals
5. Dungey 2009 250 Nationals
6. Martin 2014 250 Nationals
7. Stewart 2004 125 Nationals

Reed and Roczen run 2 digit numbers even though they are eligible for a single digit from their 450 titles.

-MAVERICK- wrote:

I agree. Personally I think in order to run a single digit you should win either a 450SX or 450MX title.

250MX national title, get to run a career number between 10 and 20.

Finish top 10 in overall points choose a career number between 20 and 99.

Better yet, run what you earn. Finished 45th in points you run 45 the following year. Careers aren't really long enough to market themselves/the number.

KirkChandler wrote:

It’s crazy that a 1 time 125/250 champ had #3 for over 10 seasons with Mike Brown. Not to pick on Brown, he went by the rules and Snagged a low number.

Then when Deano won his 250 title the #8 was technically the only number available (I don’t remember why the 6 wasn’t considered), but GL wasn’t 100% done done at that point, Dean had no connection to 8, so he kept 15. The next year 4 became eligible then the following year 3 was available.

The only time the issuing of numbers was fair was when they started the program and went with whomever had the most titles, with premier class having the priority.

2. MC- 7 titles at the time
3. Emig- 4 titles
4. RC- 3 titles
5. Larocco- 2 Titles
6. Lamson- 2 titles
7. Albertyn- 1 title
19. Henry- 3 titles

In what year did they switch things up to career numbers? I mean I've always known McGrath as number 2 so must be a long time ago. Same thing goes with RC4 and LaRocco being number 5.

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7/15/2018 7:48 PM

jemcee wrote:

I hate that guys can be single digit before they even compete in the premier class..That's all I have to say haha

KirkChandler wrote:

Every single digit rider earned their single digit from the 250 class. It’s ridiculous.

2. Webb 2016 250 Nationals
3. Tomac 2013 250 Nationals
4. Baggett 2012 250 Nationals
5. Dungey 2009 250 Nationals
6. Martin 2014 250 Nationals
7. Stewart 2004 125 Nationals

Reed and Roczen run 2 digit numbers even though they are eligible for a single digit from their 450 titles.

Well your first crack at a single digit is gonna be after winning a 250 Nat title. Its not really rocket science here

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7/15/2018 7:49 PM

F150Motocrosser wrote:

I know this comes up a lot / plenty of times in the past....

- Remind me how Chiz grabbed the 11??

- Remind me how Alessi ran the 800 his entire career, but they wouldn't let Hanny keep his 100??

-Chiz scored an overall top 10 in points and qualified for a 2 digit career number. Not sure what year. He's scored enough points each year since to keep his number.

-Alessi chose 800 as his career number when he first earned one. Then the rules changed to only allow riders to choose 2 digit numbers for their career numbers, Alessi was grandfathered in and kept the 800.
Hansen either didnt ever have 100 as a permanent career number or didn't score enough points to retain it so he lost it. Will be the same deal if Enticknap ever scores enough points for a national number, he will have to give up the 722 and run whatever national number he earned the previous year.

As far as only earning a single digit number by getting a 450 title. There wont be alot of single digit riders out there if that was the case. This year it would've been Reed, Tomac and Roczen only, add Anderson in next year. Fact is the same riders tend to win every year. Up until this year all 36 major titles since like 2001 have been shared by like 6 or 7 riders.

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7/15/2018 7:56 PM

F150Motocrosser wrote:

I know this comes up a lot / plenty of times in the past....

- Remind me how Chiz grabbed the 11??

- Remind me how Alessi ran the 800 his entire career, but they wouldn't let Hanny keep his 100??

haydos25 wrote:

-Chiz scored an overall top 10 in points and qualified for a 2 digit career number. Not sure what year. He's scored enough points each year since to keep his number.

-Alessi chose 800 as his career number when he first earned one. Then the rules changed to only allow riders to choose 2 digit numbers for their career numbers, Alessi was grandfathered in and kept the 800.
Hansen either didnt ever have 100 as a permanent career number or didn't score enough points to retain it so he lost it. Will be the same deal if Enticknap ever scores enough points for a national number, he will have to give up the 722 and run whatever national number he earned the previous year.

As far as only earning a single digit number by getting a 450 title. There wont be alot of single digit riders out there if that was the case. This year it would've been Reed, Tomac and Roczen only, add Anderson in next year. Fact is the same riders tend to win every year. Up until this year all 36 major titles since like 2001 have been shared by like 6 or 7 riders.

Thought the Hanny deal had to do with 100 thru 110 being reserved for visiting euros/foreigners etc.?

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7/15/2018 8:02 PM

KirkChandler wrote:

Every single digit rider earned their single digit from the 250 class. It’s ridiculous.

2. Webb 2016 250 Nationals
3. Tomac 2013 250 Nationals
4. Baggett 2012 250 Nationals
5. Dungey 2009 250 Nationals
6. Martin 2014 250 Nationals
7. Stewart 2004 125 Nationals

Reed and Roczen run 2 digit numbers even though they are eligible for a single digit from their 450 titles.

-MAVERICK- wrote:

I agree. Personally I think in order to run a single digit you should win either a 450SX or 450MX title.

250MX national title, get to run a career number between 10 and 20.

Finish top 10 in overall points choose a career number between 20 and 99.

Better yet, run what you earn. Finished 45th in points you run 45 the following year. Careers aren't really long enough to market themselves/the number.

KirkChandler wrote:

It’s crazy that a 1 time 125/250 champ had #3 for over 10 seasons with Mike Brown. Not to pick on Brown, he went by the rules and Snagged a low number.

Then when Deano won his 250 title the #8 was technically the only number available (I don’t remember why the 6 wasn’t considered), but GL wasn’t 100% done done at that point, Dean had no connection to 8, so he kept 15. The next year 4 became eligible then the following year 3 was available.

The only time the issuing of numbers was fair was when they started the program and went with whomever had the most titles, with premier class having the priority.

2. MC- 7 titles at the time
3. Emig- 4 titles
4. RC- 3 titles
5. Larocco- 2 Titles
6. Lamson- 2 titles
7. Albertyn- 1 title
19. Henry- 3 titles

I prefer Barnett at 1. with 3 outdoor titles. I'm just sayin.

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7/15/2018 8:02 PM

-MAVERICK- wrote:

In what year did they switch things up to career numbers? I mean I've always known McGrath as number 2 so must be a long time ago. Same thing goes with RC4 and LaRocco being number 5.

After the 99 season.

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7/15/2018 8:07 PM

cbuehler767 wrote:

Well your first crack at a single digit is gonna be after winning a 250 Nat title. Its not really rocket science here

True. That’s the way the rule is.

It’s just funny that Currently Eli is the only single digit 450 champ. And some of the most popular riders in the sport are 2 digit guys that are 450 champions. #94, #21, #22

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7/15/2018 8:11 PM

That’s what I thought as well

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