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8/8/2012 9:52am
8/8/2012 9:52am
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8/9/2012 6:50pm
Who enforces the rules for the C class at AMA races? I normally wouldnt care cause I ride A but I think this has gotten
out of hand. There are a few kids from my area that made LL in C and I know they have been racing for more than 2 years.
Its not really my place to say anything to them so I keep quite. I was curious how hard it would be to find info on these kids
and come to find out its quite easy. I googled a few names in the 250 C from LL and all had articles stating that they have been riding since the age of 4 or 5. Like I said before I normally could care less about this but I see this hurting the sport. MX is not only my favorite thing to do but Its how I make a living with working in a shop and teaching mx schools. Can anyone answer why the AMA just lets it happen?? Its a bad look from someone looking into the sport and they see that cheating is
tolerated.
out of hand. There are a few kids from my area that made LL in C and I know they have been racing for more than 2 years.
Its not really my place to say anything to them so I keep quite. I was curious how hard it would be to find info on these kids
and come to find out its quite easy. I googled a few names in the 250 C from LL and all had articles stating that they have been riding since the age of 4 or 5. Like I said before I normally could care less about this but I see this hurting the sport. MX is not only my favorite thing to do but Its how I make a living with working in a shop and teaching mx schools. Can anyone answer why the AMA just lets it happen?? Its a bad look from someone looking into the sport and they see that cheating is
tolerated.
The Shop
http://www.tracksideresults.com/oakhill/racer.asp?n=10521
GNC Rules:
7. C CLASS: If you have ever finished in the top 5 at any National on any size bike (Whitney, Oak Hill, World Mini, Ponca City, Loretta Lynn or Mini O’s) you are not eligible for the “C” class. SEE CLASS DETAIL SHEET FOR CLASS ELIGIBILITY.
AMA Rules:
4. Participation in, or advancement to, a higher class in any
AMA or non-AMA activity by any rider will result in
permanent advancement to that higher class (in like
activity) in all AMA-sanctioned competition. (Like activity =
MX to MX or Enduro to Enduro, etc.)
There is nothing to argue here- He finished top 5 at a national in 2011. Therefore, the GNC (a 'non-AMA activity) advanced him to B class at the end of the 2011 season. So, according to the AMA rules this was a 'permanent advancement'. However, he must have felt that since he had 'connections' these rules did not apply to him. Shame on BTO, Fox Racing, Defcon Media, DC Shoes, Spy Optics and any of the other companies that place results at a higher standard than fair play.
n.
1. A person new to a field or activity; a beginner.
I believe that if you have been racing dirtbikes for 3-4 years AMA sanctioned or not you are not a novice aka beginner.
In short, who cares.
where they (novice, C) find loopholes is in the definition of novice there are words like new and beginner so they must be defined as well and so on until it fits their needs. it's sad!
last, most "believe" the same as you but if the belief is not it the rules it will get skirted.
again.....sad!
i could give a shit less who won the C class.
let me even go further, who won the C class last year and how did they do in the B class this year? riiiiight.... they did nothing, so who gives a shit about them.
Pit Row
but, every Dirt Shark video is almost as original as a Carlos Mencia joke.
only one rider has ever won a C class title and gone on to win a 2nd title at LL's, and that rider no longer races.
Also, only one rider won C class and went on to pro success, that was Jeremy McGrath
Point is, winning C class means dick.
Been what, 31 years of LL's, so there's been well over 100 winners of C classes, and the rate of success of those riders is 1%?
Who cares, winning C class is more of a curse than a blessing
Did Sleeter @ Abbott run the pro sport class??
...and lack enough pride.
Sleeter won the 2 stroke and raced +25 amateurs, Abbott raced + 25 amateurs.
I have a funny story of 3 highly touted national mini riders from the same area being bounced from minis to A class.. Some rival competition from a neighborimg state caught wind that they(while still on minis) had taken $ in jump contests, dash for cash races @ straight up receiving money(entree fee back) instead of trophies.. All of these violations occurred at an unsanctioned outlaw race track with no evidence proving guilt, just hear say.. Needless to say all 3 riders were moved to A class with only a couple big bike races under their belts, not a question asked or chance to appeal.
I thought if you had qualified for a pro national or SX main then you were eligible for PRO SPORT classes only.. You could still run A classes as a pro card holder as long as you never qualified for a main.. might be different now
+25 to 40 Amateur! B,C,D, Whatever you want to call it. If you can make it you're in.
+25 to 40 Pro! Current, Ex, or A with documented AMA sanctioned event finish. Policed by the amateurs!
+40 Amateur! B,C,D, Whatever you want to call it. If you can make it you are in.
+40 Pro! Current, Ex, or A with documented AMA sanctioned event finish. Policed by the amateurs!
A few people brought up doing away with the C classes and I first I was against it but now I see the forest through the trees. They are all B anyway. I feel certain that there are few to no newbs (racing less than 1,2 or 3 years) unless they are on little bikes, pulling in a Lorrettas anyway.
Whatcha think?
Fire Away!!!!!!
2) Live by the sword, die by the sword. Had it not been an outlaw event they wouldn't have been outlaws.
3) If it looks like a turd and smells like a turd......If you try to qualify for a PRO National/SX which requires a PRO license that you had to acquire enough "A" points to receive you are a PRO and should race Pro Sport only. "A" class should be for riders that pointed out of "B"
I realize that it does not change the overall stats much, but there were 2 riders that won the C class and came back to win another class.
bruce
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