Who here is mototalk alumni?

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Didn't he say he was going to come to your house or some shit like that? I remember looking up the dudes record and he had...
Didn't he say he was going to come to your house or some shit like that?

I remember looking up the dudes record and he had gotten busted for some pretty high scale coke dealing years back.
He said he was going to kill me and my kids, knew where I lived and for 6 months, he called my cell every night between...
He said he was going to kill me and my kids, knew where I lived and for 6 months, he called my cell every night between 2-4am repeatedly from a blocked #, had to have the police & verizon handle it.

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Holy crap, I seriously had no idea he went that far off the deep end of things - you've got my sympathies for having to deal...
Holy crap, I seriously had no idea he went that far off the deep end of things - you've got my sympathies for having to deal with that stuff. Sounds like serious mental issues to me.

I was just remembering how he signed off MT - those, um, scenery pics he posted stayed up there for quite a while before they finally got nuked.
I'm not going to lie, there are people I dislike,but I can't imagine hating someone so much it takes up your life, or you make it your life's work to harass them ? I just don't have the time or care to worry about that. When I leave work ?? I leave Vital unless OCScottie emails me or texts me on a good topic here Woohoo haha

Member the hard-core porn pics he posted up all over ?? racetime too, he gave a new meaning to bald eagles SillyPinchSideways

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11/10/2011 4:39pm
Ha ha - bald eagles. I was thinking that, didn't quite have the game to post it. Wink
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No fessing up I was a proud member of MT with my good buddy TFreakingFS, regardless what you all think he changed the way we have...
No fessing up I was a proud member of MT with my good buddy TFreakingFS, regardless what you all think he changed the way we have moto news delivered, he is the man Woohoo We have digital mags & pics, thanks to him, Cycle News, Kit Palmer was the first to pull the trigger and use TFS's pics from SX.

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What? No love for the first outlet for CMXU?
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11/10/2011 4:54pm
....those were great days we were living lads.

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11/10/2011 4:55pm
Bruhn probably gave him one too many wedgies on non-moto. Steve loved a brawl, and people took that a lot more personally/seriously than he did.
Oh, I don't know. Steve took several things way too personally IMO.
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11/10/2011 4:55pm Edited Date/Time 11/10/2011 4:55pm
No fessing up I was a proud member of MT with my good buddy TFreakingFS, regardless what you all think he changed the way we have...
No fessing up I was a proud member of MT with my good buddy TFreakingFS, regardless what you all think he changed the way we have moto news delivered, he is the man Woohoo We have digital mags & pics, thanks to him, Cycle News, Kit Palmer was the first to pull the trigger and use TFS's pics from SX.

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What? No love for the first outlet for CMXU?
sshhhh, yeah you know I dig you, I caught a lot of heat for that tho. I do miss it. Yer a good man for sure.

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sshhhh, yeah you know I dig you, I caught a lot of heat for that tho. I do miss it. Yer a good man for sure...
sshhhh, yeah you know I dig you, I caught a lot of heat for that tho. I do miss it. Yer a good man for sure.

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11/10/2011 5:01pm Edited Date/Time 11/10/2011 5:02pm
I hope i'm not that list of dislikes people Sondra .
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11/10/2011 5:44pm
Bruhn probably gave him one too many wedgies on non-moto. Steve loved a brawl, and people took that a lot more personally/seriously than he did.
Oh, I don't know. Steve took several things way too personally IMO.
Talking non-moto arguments
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Talking non-moto arguments
Oh yeah. Like gun control? One of the most irrational of them all.
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11/10/2011 7:15pm
I was there from about 2003 on until about when TFS made his departure. I met a lot of MTrs at events and I still stay in touch with them, so that is cool. Through MT, got a last minute RacerX SX Pass dealie in 2007 for the Orlando SX from someone that couldn't go. Met Brad Lackey and got to have a few beers with him in the pits in Anaheim thanks to Shenzi. Met a person on MT in the industry that I am in that led to a six-figure job.

So, for the money, it was worth it for me.
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11/10/2011 7:21pm
Talking non-moto arguments
Oh yeah. Like gun control? One of the most irrational of them all.
He didn't take that stuff personally. He could be combative and rude as hell to you if your disagreed with him, and loved every moment, but it didn't stop him from being cool to you on some other issue. A lot of people hated him over that stuff.

Other issues related to business that he perceived as a threat, real or imagined, were different.
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11/10/2011 7:24pm
Talking non-moto arguments
Oh yeah. Like gun control? One of the most irrational of them all.
He didn't take that stuff personally. He could be combative and rude as hell to you if your disagreed with him, and loved every moment, but...
He didn't take that stuff personally. He could be combative and rude as hell to you if your disagreed with him, and loved every moment, but it didn't stop him from being cool to you on some other issue. A lot of people hated him over that stuff.

Other issues related to business that he perceived as a threat, real or imagined, were different.
Dont bring up Ronny Ray-gun or Contras ! Grinning
11/10/2011 7:29pm
He didn't take that stuff personally. He could be combative and rude as hell to you if your disagreed with him, and loved every moment, but...
He didn't take that stuff personally. He could be combative and rude as hell to you if your disagreed with him, and loved every moment, but it didn't stop him from being cool to you on some other issue. A lot of people hated him over that stuff.

Other issues related to business that he perceived as a threat, real or imagined, were different.
(Cough..Strobe...Cough) Guilty of misdemeanor loitering at MT.
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11/10/2011 7:30pm Edited Date/Time 11/10/2011 7:35pm
He didn't take that stuff personally. He could be combative and rude as hell to you if your disagreed with him, and loved every moment, but...
He didn't take that stuff personally. He could be combative and rude as hell to you if your disagreed with him, and loved every moment, but it didn't stop him from being cool to you on some other issue. A lot of people hated him over that stuff.

Other issues related to business that he perceived as a threat, real or imagined, were different.
(Cough..Strobe...Cough) Guilty of misdemeanor loitering at MT.
See the last sentence . . . but TFS wasn't the only one who had an issue with Tony's strobes, like a lot of things he ended up being the face of it because of his role fronting the moderator/info guy at MT. Not saying anything about which side was right in all that, just that the sides were more than TFS alone having issues with Tony using them in the race itself. That whole thing is a long story with a lot of things going on at once. Honestly, how people not knowing everything came down with that depended on whether they liked Bruhn or not.

Tony definitely generated some great pics with the technique.
11/10/2011 7:36pm Edited Date/Time 11/10/2011 7:45pm
Yep, that's what I was lamely referring to.Laughing Mike did you ever make it to any Puyallup Trans-Ama events. I shot some video in 1977 but it has degraded with time. Was wondering if you had any photo's from the race. Like the others have said,those photo's were not luck but skill.
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11/10/2011 7:46pm
He didn't take that stuff personally. He could be combative and rude as hell to you if your disagreed with him, and loved every moment, but...
He didn't take that stuff personally. He could be combative and rude as hell to you if your disagreed with him, and loved every moment, but it didn't stop him from being cool to you on some other issue. A lot of people hated him over that stuff.

Other issues related to business that he perceived as a threat, real or imagined, were different.
You have your perceptions, I have mine.

I've always given Steve credit for leveraging his unique position and the pure timing of it to transform the sport. But no one should confuse that with a blind eye for some of the pure nastiness the guy was prone to falling victim to. He ultimately burned every bridge in the sport due to that personal frailty. It was on full display, too many times, unfortunately.
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11/10/2011 7:57pm
You have your perceptions, I have mine. I've always given Steve credit for leveraging his unique position and the pure timing of it to transform the...
You have your perceptions, I have mine.

I've always given Steve credit for leveraging his unique position and the pure timing of it to transform the sport. But no one should confuse that with a blind eye for some of the pure nastiness the guy was prone to falling victim to. He ultimately burned every bridge in the sport due to that personal frailty. It was on full display, too many times, unfortunately.
I didn't say he wasn't nasty; I just said a lot of the non-moto stuff he didn't take personally. He could be incredibly abrasive. We had knock down drag outs on some politics and religious issues, but never ever experienced any hostility or lack of generosity at the track.

A lot of people who interacted with him on that same non-moto debate BS hated the dude. They were equally nasty to him. He didn't take it personally and a lot of them did. The number of people he actually had any real serious grind going on with was a lot smaller than the people who took offense at his opinions or the way he stated them

Now I expect your dealings over some of the issues unique to the your mutual interests in other stuff was, as I recognized in making that distinction. Most people didn't have the relationship or the business issues you and a handful of others did.
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11/10/2011 9:31pm Edited Date/Time 11/10/2011 9:36pm
The one person I'd like to know the identity of is "Unamused". Anyone know who that was or if he's still around? I have a special place in my heart for him...

By the way, for all you WhipIt!/FreshDirt/Mototalk/Motodrive old-timers, you might get a chuckle to know that my old pal, MikeeeeePissant, recently contacted me on Facebook and we buried the hatchet...something I would not have ever considered possible.

Those were some fucking good times, though! Never a dull moment!

Oh, and TFS was the best and a true revolutionary in just about every aspect. We had some great times fucking with people that deserved to be fucked with. He had the purest, most severe case of Andy Kaufman syndrome I have ever seen! I don't think ol' Andy hisself had it as bad as Steve...he idolized that guy!

Good times, for sure!
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11/10/2011 9:34pm
I think we all appreciated your role as the voice of reason and civility back then, Steve. Silly
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11/10/2011 9:37pm
Let the dog snore.

If you moto, yer good in this house.
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11/10/2011 9:37pm
I think we all appreciated your role as the voice of reason and civility back then, Steve. Silly
Thanks, Chewy! Miss me much?
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11/11/2011 7:01am
Sup beeches!?
Fun thread.

Meltdown my ass!

MT was quite a place, tons of fun.

For a while it was a moto journalist school. Just think how many people doing pics, past and present, that got started there..

Sure people got upset, me too sometimes, but that's the Internet. MT was the real deal.

It's funny that some of the most stupid shit is what people can't stop talking about.

It wasn't ever #25 in traffic or even close. About 2001 I remember someone sending me a note that is was about 13,000 in global ranking. This was before Alexa and I don't remember the source, maybe yahoo.

I don't care what people think about what happened near the end. Hutch and I were arguing over the ad money at the top of the page, and the site was never really mine. It just didn't work out. We also disagreed on some dickheads I deleted, and he put them back. I just got sick of it. I was bored with the way MT worked and wanted to design something all new and a lot better, and needed a smart web guy. Something like a Facebook for moto would have been ideal, where you make your own wall and control what's on it.

Whippy just needs to get over his personal problem. I know he was trying to go around me with Hutch about something and I busted him. Ever since he has had a grudge. It started when I kicked his ass in the seat bounce debates!

You people never got the real story on dipshit and his strobes, or you never paid enough attention. He had a personal problem with me because he was just jealous over how many pics i had all over, and MT-he thought it should be him, because he was mr photographer. Once things calmed down, he even admitted it to me. CCE pulled the plug on him during the day in Detroit, and I was not even in the building. He blamed it on me and took his bitching online, and he started trying to complain to CCE about my business (specifically me shooting the KTM kids and selling pics), and that was crossing the line. I never planned on being a photographer and didn't care about it that much. It was just a way to pay for the fun and tell stories. Scavo thought he was the "it" guy on photos and everything I had should have been his. Notice that when I left MT, he jumped in and tried to take my place and failed.

Overall, MT was a blast, and to quote Deegan after his SX win in 1997, "I kicked everybody's ass!"
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Oh boy, here we go. Nice of you to chime in Broon, Good to see you in here.

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PS y'all. I know it's misspelled.

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