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2/28/2020 7:23am
2/28/2020 7:23am
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We are anxiously awaiting the new Honda Electric bike, or at least I am, mostly curious as to the price point. But what is next, who will jump into electric next and where will they start (anyone heard any rumors)? I see both KTM and Cobra seem to be calling the minis E5. So assuming they reference e5, will there continue to be 60's, 85s, 100, 125/250F, 450. Or do you think manufacturer's will try to combine a 65/85 with adjustability like how KTM did the e5 with 4 inches of adjustability I believe.
I am hoping more people pursue a 50 size bike (Honda, Kawasaki, even Yamaha with a more competitive bike to KTM and Cobra).
I am hoping more people pursue a 50 size bike (Honda, Kawasaki, even Yamaha with a more competitive bike to KTM and Cobra).
The supreme energy density of gasoline is saving engines, for now.
Currently, a battery with enough power to be competitive is still too big and heavy, plus cost, range and charging issues that render it a dealbreaker for most people.
If battery development progresses and a model was actually introduced at a lower cost than a comparable gas bike, I could see them gaining ground.
I think you will see more OEMs pursue the E-MTB style market first, where electric is really beginning to carve out a good niche.
That last version, the MXR, was SO good.
I got to spend some time on Josh Hills with Cone Valve/Trax set up and I would trade any bike in the world for the experience I had on that bike.
It gives me hope it can be done, I pray someone else is able to get the technology out there. There’s nothing quite like the power delivery of electric.
The Shop
Never catch back on in the late 90s and early early 2000s... due to cost/etc and look where are just 15-20 years later. theyre the dominant machine.
I think the future is bright for the electric bikes. And engineers won’t cease to amaze on their capabilities!
I wish I could find it back. It was a thread on here.
If anyone is gonna get this right (like they did), it needs to be a whole new, electric-first platform - adapting existing ICE setups to electric sacrifices too much.
I'm sure Yamaha has some things happening behind the scenes, especially given their TYE. I had thought KTM, with the acquisition of Gas Gas / Torrot, was maybe planning to position Gas Gas (long-term) as electric, or at least leverage the learnings / R&D they've put in.
I hope a batteria shorts and burns the factory down
I got one of these sur rons a few months ago. Say what you will, but it is a blast for what it is. I think they got the price right as well. The lightweight mtn bike components/aspect help it to achieve some decent range also.
Don't except to moto it, but in some good flowing single track (easy on the suspension) you would be hard pressed to go faster on anything else
Of Motocross bikes, now more than ever it's needed, and now more than ever we have power to spare,
Do you guys think they could make some quiet gas powered bikes?
How much less power would a 450 that's 50% quieter have?
And not at the pro level but could there be local racing with the quieter bikes?
me, caveman, like bang-bang noise. change bad, fire-engine good.
There is a HUGE difference in racing electric bikes and gas powered bikes. It is part of the show, and the show would never be the same.
Pit Row
Without a doubt, I will be getting one as my main bike when Honda/KTM/Husky releases them.
When I was with Alta, I assisted hundreds of riders demo an Alta. When a rider finished a demo, they always had a big smile on their face and not once did a rider complain about the absence of sound.
I raced mine 3 times and pulled 6 holeshots with 4 moto wins and two seconds against mostly 450's.
I loved the bike and wished I would have kept one of my demos! Even though they were more expensive than ICE bikes, riders saved by having close to zero maintenance.
I'm confident it won't be long before we see more electric models in the near future.
For the haters out there, do yourself a favor a take a test ride on one when available and let me know how you like it. Then and only then will your opinion be valid.
I guarantee you the casual race fan attendance would decline.
Listen guys, I'm with you I enjoy the smell and the noise of bikes. Nothing gets me more excited for a race than hearing the gate drop and 40 bikes heading into turn 1 together. But times are changing. I said this in another electric post on here before, but I would rather have an electric bike than no bike at all. With how the EPA and agencies are going after pollution and with complaints of sound electric is a win as far as I can tell.
I will most likely be buying my son an electric e5 assuming Honda, Yamaha or Kawasaki have an e5 out, or possibly go with the Cobra. I don't want to conform to the KTM craze unless Im forced to.
Look at USAC crit races- fans line the fences, multiple people deep. No motors, no noises or smells.
YOU may leave the fence-line. Someone else will take your spot.
I despise the E bike movement. It's fucking stupid, it's no better for the enviroment and it won't save riding areas. Just saying. And the fact that there is no clutch or gear box management makes these things a nothing more that a power wheel toy. Desl with it. That's why you guys ride better, because it removes an integral part of the moto experience. Shifting.
I think it's a waste and dumb and that's my opinion. No amount of ad hominum attacks changes anything, in fact it points out the weakness of the arguments being made. The bikes and the "movement" should stand alone in persuading people to move over. Not attempting to brow beat them into accepting your opinion. Jesus why is everybody a dickheaded advocate these days?
You guys pining for an fucking E bike then make one, sell it or ride it and shut the fuck up.
The two stroke/four stroke situation has shown us that the desires of the paying fans spectating at proMX events counts for little to the "powers that be" running the sport. I'd say they alienated many motocross enthusiasts by unfairly killing racing with two strokes efforts. And they'll do the same when they abandon the four strokes. The decisions determining what machinery we'll be seeing racing is in the hands of the manufacturers. That's just how it is.
Pure fun every time i'm riding...
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