Which factory rider moves down to satelitte level

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Edited Date/Time 2/12/2016 7:40pm
Now before anyone starts bagging riders this thread isn't intended for that.

Just seeing what everyone's opinions are with which factory riders will be forced to step down to satellite/non factory riders next year?

I think that Wilson and Hahn will be forced to non factory teams next year
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jj welks 2/10/2016 10:41pm
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I dont think it's any gravy train any of those guys are on. Can't be an easy life. Dean Wilson is the first that comes to mind.
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Wilson, Hahn, even (gasp) Canard could see a demotion of sorts.

More importantly, who are some satellite guys that have earned a factory gig?
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I could see Wilson doing well somewhere like bto. Good bike, bit more lowkey atmosphere. I don't see him as a failure just yet, he's a heat race winner this year. That's no joke.

I'd say hahns on the bubble, along with tickle, bogle and maybe peick but not sure wen his deals up. There's not many guys in the class currently demanding an upgrade to a factory ride and really only Webb and Martin that demand instant top tier rides/money next year when they move up
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kiwifan 2/10/2016 10:50pm
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Wilson, Hahn and Bogle would be my thinking

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x3no22 2/10/2016 10:50pm
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i dont think honda will drop trey, he seems like too much of a "brand ambassador" type guy, just bad luck.
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h&m_cycle 2/10/2016 10:55pm
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kiwifan wrote:
Wilson, Hahn and Bogle would be my thinking
Exactly... times 3... AC has one or two more chances too... it's sad to say...
Aussie_power_sports 2/10/2016 10:57pm
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zehn wrote:
Wilson, Hahn, even (gasp) Canard could see a demotion of sorts.

More importantly, who are some satellite guys that have earned a factory gig?
Yes I can see canard or barcia being some of the big guys to have to do it first.

To me Weimer is the next guy to go back to factory team
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I could see Wilson going to BTO, it at least seems like a decent fit.
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Pieck needs to step it up as JGR expect results for their investment
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Aussie_power_sports wrote:
Yes I can see canard or barcia being some of the big guys to have to do it first. To me Weimer is the next guy...
Yes I can see canard or barcia being some of the big guys to have to do it first.

To me Weimer is the next guy to go back to factory team
I dont think Barcia would be out of a ride before some of those other guys. He's normally pretty healthy and he was one of the 4? guys to win a national last year and he did it twice. He's not done yet
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Excaliburbmx wrote:
What if yosh picked up Roczen
If Stewart is still there I can't see it happening. James hasn't ever had a teammate that could beat him. I feel like its for a reason but that's just my opinion.
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Barcia is signed through 2018.
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Excaliburbmx wrote:
What if yosh picked up Roczen
mmain62 wrote:
If Stewart is still there I can't see it happening. James hasn't ever had a teammate that could beat him. I feel like its for a...
If Stewart is still there I can't see it happening. James hasn't ever had a teammate that could beat him. I feel like its for a reason but that's just my opinion.
What if yosh parts ways
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brimx153 2/11/2016 4:50am
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i think if Hann stay s finishing were he is around 10 th place , he will keep his ride

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struth wrote:
Bagget, tickle, pieck
Aren't Tickle and Peick already on satellite teams? I think Baggett and Canard are the next full factory guys that will be looking for new teams. I also think that a change might be a good thing for Trey.
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zehn wrote:
Wilson, Hahn, even (gasp) Canard could see a demotion of sorts.

More importantly, who are some satellite guys that have earned a factory gig?
No way canard gets a demotion or whatever. He may or may not be on Honda, but no matter what he will be on a factory team. Trey wouldn't last 15 minutes on the market. He'd have offers pouring in. He's still a good 5 guy.
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brimx153 2/11/2016 5:06am
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Baggett did great last year , God get injured for 6 races and suddenly he should get dropped . god what a load of crap . same as Trey , anyone who thinks he cant get a factory ride next year is just stupid !!!!!!!!! . When you can win a race at any time , its easy get a factory ride ,
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Canerat wrote:
Pieck needs to step it up as JGR expect results for their investment
And what exactly is that investment?
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agn5009 wrote:
No way canard gets a demotion or whatever. He may or may not be on Honda, but no matter what he will be on a factory...
No way canard gets a demotion or whatever. He may or may not be on Honda, but no matter what he will be on a factory team. Trey wouldn't last 15 minutes on the market. He'd have offers pouring in. He's still a good 5 guy.
Honest question. I did a quick Google and didn't find an answer. When's the last time he completed a season?
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mattmatt300 2/11/2016 5:14am
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brimx153 wrote:
Baggett did great last year , God get injured for 6 races and suddenly he should get dropped . god what a load of crap...
Baggett did great last year , God get injured for 6 races and suddenly he should get dropped . god what a load of crap . same as Trey , anyone who thinks he cant get a factory ride next year is just stupid !!!!!!!!! . When you can win a race at any time , its easy get a factory ride ,
Tell Chad Reed that.
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agn5009 wrote:
No way canard gets a demotion or whatever. He may or may not be on Honda, but no matter what he will be on a factory...
No way canard gets a demotion or whatever. He may or may not be on Honda, but no matter what he will be on a factory team. Trey wouldn't last 15 minutes on the market. He'd have offers pouring in. He's still a good 5 guy.
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Honest question. I did a quick Google and didn't find an answer. When's the last time he completed a season?
Going based on the Vault, here are his finishes. I didn't dig into the MX seasons but I believe he finished both of those seasons. It's been awhile since he finished an SX season.

Despite missing races, He's still top 10 most of the time. And his MX performance is not bad at all when he competes.

2014 MX he finished 3rd.
2013 MX he finished 4th.
2013 SX he finished 6th.Missed one race but finished 18th or 19th three times.
2015 SX he finished 6th. Missed last 6 rounds

http://vault.racerxonline.com/2015/mx/intro
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brimx153 wrote:
Baggett did great last year , God get injured for 6 races and suddenly he should get dropped . god what a load of crap...
Baggett did great last year , God get injured for 6 races and suddenly he should get dropped . god what a load of crap . same as Trey , anyone who thinks he cant get a factory ride next year is just stupid !!!!!!!!! . When you can win a race at any time , its easy get a factory ride ,
mattmatt300 wrote:
Tell Chad Reed that.
Different scenarios altogether. There's no way that Reed's talent kept the phones from ringing. And I believe he had offers, but none that he felt were fair compensation. RCH is coming to my mind.

I consider RCH and JGR factory rigs since they are both factory backed and the factory outfit for both brands is really thin/ almost non existent.
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IWreckALot wrote:
Different scenarios altogether. There's no way that Reed's talent kept the phones from ringing. And I believe he had offers, but none that he felt were...
Different scenarios altogether. There's no way that Reed's talent kept the phones from ringing. And I believe he had offers, but none that he felt were fair compensation. RCH is coming to my mind.

I consider RCH and JGR factory rigs since they are both factory backed and the factory outfit for both brands is really thin/ almost non existent.
I agree that the circumstances were different. My point is that it doesn't seem like full factory rides are a dime a dozen right now.

RCH and JGR are both solid teams. They get factory equipment and seem to make it work well. I still believe that going to either of those teams from Honda, Kawi or KTM is a downgrade.
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Canard might have to drop down from the HRC ride, depending on how much money he wants. Because he/the agent will notice that Honda wont pay anywhere near to him what they do now. Im sure that Honda pays him up to 7 figures, im not sure that they are willing to do that in the future when it is pretty clear that he wont deliver a 450 title for them.



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Motofinne wrote:
Canard might have to drop down from the HRC ride, depending on how much money he wants. Because he/the agent will notice that Honda wont pay...
Canard might have to drop down from the HRC ride, depending on how much money he wants. Because he/the agent will notice that Honda wont pay anywhere near to him what they do now. Im sure that Honda pays him up to 7 figures, im not sure that they are willing to do that in the future when it is pretty clear that he wont deliver a 450 title for them.



I could see Canard fitting in at BTO to fill Short's spot.

Any decent rumors on what bikes JGR and RCH might end up on if they do switch?
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rileymx 2/11/2016 9:15am
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What about Suzuki n°1 ride ?....does it have to be tabu, or could we talk about who whould be a good fit for it, special since there is a lot of talk about Kroc to HRC ...

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