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After watching Roczen winning RBSR on a factory Honda CR250 one must think how good those HRC tuned CR250's actually were. Has anyone inside information what is different inside those HRC engines compared tho stock motor? The bike sounded completely different than the stock CR250 engine.
I remember Ricky Carmichael beating Stefan Everts's works YZ450f riding his CR250 back in 2003 at Zolder MXON race so those bikes must have been plenty fast. Seems to me that Honda had perfected their factory CR250 just before they quit racing it.
I remember Ricky Carmichael beating Stefan Everts's works YZ450f riding his CR250 back in 2003 at Zolder MXON race so those bikes must have been plenty fast. Seems to me that Honda had perfected their factory CR250 just before they quit racing it.
Lieb was the only guy that had a significant engine disadvantage in the whole event imo.
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Edit, forgot to quote previous post
Injuries: Webb has been off the bike and RV crashed hard on Friday trying to follow Hansen.
Bike Development: Bikes haven't gotten that much better since the late 90's early 2000's. I'm not any faster on my FX than I would be on my 98 YZ250, just more comfortable and don't have to mess with jets. Yamaha is on the same suspension since 2006, which every other company is now going back to. Kinda like mountain bikes, once you get to a certain point, you gotta change the wheel sizes to get people thinking that they're getting better. "29 is better than 26 because it rolls over obstacles better. What's that, 29 inch wheels flex too much? Well I've got these 27.5 inch wheels that are better than 29's because they flex less..."
Marketing works way better than most want to admit.
So this bike was basically the best Honda could do with a 2 stroke factory motocross bike.
And yes, Roczen was probably the most talented rider in the field.
So best rider, best bike, predictable results.
No doubt that a stock 2020 KTM 250 is better than a stock 2006 Honda CR250.
But was anywhere near as much time, effort & money put into those KTMs as was put into that CR250?
And while I personally don't want to see a manufacturer that no longer makes 2 stokes win RBSR (exceptions for the 500s), it is very cool to see these old 'masterpiece' bikes brought back for a little more usage.
I mean what else are they going to do with them?
Cheers Vital Village.
Kenny wins 2016 450 National Championship on a Suzuki -- people talk about how good Kenny is to overcome the bike.
Someone needs to give me the FEA analysis of that late generation CR frame and all flex testing reports HRC has before I will think that old Honda was any good....LOL
Says it's night & day different.
Did the testing twice - same day, same track.
He's a believer.
And - Everyone knows Uncle Tom is a guru.
Pit Row
Had it been an all KTM final then people would say it was the bike.
Show Me the DATA !!!
That bike won because of the rider that was riding it, plain and simple
Hansen said he called Mike Gosselarr and that’s who he recommended.
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