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I count the takeoffs, not the landing zones, when considering a jump a double or triple. So, a tabletop followed by a single (or vice-versa) is a double. Two tabletops are a double. Three tabletops is a gnarly triple. It doesn't matter that you can land on top of the tabletop; it's still the same body of dirt. You need a second body of dirt to become a double, and a third to be a triple.
My reasoning comes from a lifetime of riding and racing, going back all the way to the early 1980s, and a having been a fan of motorcycles since the '70s. I don't know who the first guy was who jumped a double, (guessing it was Danny Chandler or some maniac like that,) but I do know we considered two jumps a double. Then, dudes started making other things into doubles. ("He totally doubled that!") Whoops could be doubled. "Those two bumps" could be doubled. "That roller after the tabletop... could you double over that?"
One day at my local track, Mike Craig (Christian's dad,) lined up two tabletops and turned them into a gigantic double. Did we call it a quad? No - there were not four jumps there; only two. It's a double.
The Shop
The thing that bothers me is guys taking these lines that have been done forever and all of a sudden calling it a quad. Remember McGrath's 90 foot double in Steel Roots? He called it like he saw it.
Hard for me to see a 50 foot sequence of a supercross table top (step on/step off) with a double just beyond it and call it a quad when 90's tracks had bigger gaps but less jumps.
With the way the tracks are made these days everything becomes single line UNLESS one of these guys "quads" through a section to make up a quarter second.
Any takers?
i propose you submit a counter argument. asap.
on the surface, it sounds like you might not have a leg to stand on.
Consider the words being used for a moment. Double, Triple, Quad, Tabletop.In the context of motocross, these words refer to obstacles. In order to achieve double anything you must have 2 of what ever it is you are calling a double. A table top is one obstacle. A single is another. The distance is irrelevant.
To add even more to this, does it take the same commitment to go double jump to table top as it does table top to the end of a double? NOPE. SOOOOO much more room for error when the landing jump is a table. A table top is not a single, nor is it a double. It's a table which is a single obstacle.
Calling a "Single to table" a "triple" is disrespectful to all true triples. Come up short on a true triple, and pay a huge price.
Edit: imagine two singles with an "on-off" at the end. You could triple on, double off or jump all the way over to the downside of the table and make it a quad with a single out. If you move the jumps around your logic fails to compute.
/\ /\ /~~\ = Triple (If the rider lands on the downside of the last obstacle or on top.)
/\ /~~\ = Double (If the rider lands on the downside of the last obstacle or on top.)
Same distance but with 2 obstacles.
You can 3 on, 2 off or go 4-1. Just because the table is "one jump" doesn't mean it has one landing. There are two landing options. You can't discredit the option of jumping on versus jumping over, you have to add the extra 1 into your math or else it doesn't make sense. A "triple over a tabletop" is just considered a quad. Period. Why make it more complex than it is?
Pit Row
Tables are not doubles. They are tables.
Calling a Single to Table top a triple is like saying your car will go zero to 60 in 3 seconds but failing to mention it's kph not mph.
Yep. This is serious business. Got to get this lingo in line before it gets way out of hand and people start calling a 5th place start a 5th place holeshot.
Now the 5th place holeshot thing... I can get onboard with that witch hunt. My wife for some reason struggles with that no matter how many times I try to explain it to her.
Her tits are not a table.
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