When are the bikes going to get faster?

TripleFive
We're at the point where we're all used to the mundane speed of modern four-strokes. I think we can all agree that they aren't fast enough.

Was it Millville where the riders were nearly reaching the pedestrian speed of 60mph? That's not nearly fast enough; almost put me to sleep. Why not 70+ mph??

Quad +1 in Supercross; why not quad +2? If you don't like Jet Moto-style rocket ships jumping 80+ feet straight out of a corner, then I don't like you.

What this sport really needs is more danger to make it appealing. Higher speeds seems like a no-brainer.

What about making 550cc direct-injected four-strokes, and having the 450 class usurp the 250s? There's really no excuse for why the premier riders in the world aren't riding bikes that are pushing 90+ hp. We've thrown caution to the wind long ago, it's time to really ratchet-up the depravity.
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Zracer 7/30/2016 12:35pm
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You really need to take into account, modern mx riders that demand "flow" in track design. You could go pretty damn fast on these tracks with a 250 2 stroke.
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Moto810 7/30/2016 12:39pm
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I think you have been taking advantage of that legal weed in CO! Why don't you build a 90hp bike and go ride it as hard as you can! Make sure you video this because we all want to see the end result! lol
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seth505 7/30/2016 12:50pm
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Moving to 450cc was stupid...

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colintrax 7/30/2016 12:59pm
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kzizok wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/07/30/145172/s1200_image.jpg[/img]


Thats how you know you're a pro
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jj welks 7/30/2016 1:58pm
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Wish they had more turns like the one going into the old ski jump as the monster cup. It's cool seeing them haul titties without having to hit a huge ass jump. Those fly 150 types are cool but there's nothing like watching a pro shred berms such as the ones at Southwick
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Uncle_Eddie 7/30/2016 2:02pm
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colintrax wrote:
We need more of this. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/07/30/145173/s1200_2016_07_30_16_00_46_452314194.jpg[/img]
We need more of this.

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TripleFive wrote:
We're at the point where we're all used to the mundane speed of modern four-strokes. I think we can all agree that they aren't fast enough...
We're at the point where we're all used to the mundane speed of modern four-strokes. I think we can all agree that they aren't fast enough.

Was it Millville where the riders were nearly reaching the pedestrian speed of 60mph? That's not nearly fast enough; almost put me to sleep. Why not 70+ mph??

Quad +1 in Supercross; why not quad +2? If you don't like Jet Moto-style rocket ships jumping 80+ feet straight out of a corner, then I don't like you.

What this sport really needs is more danger to make it appealing. Higher speeds seems like a no-brainer.

What about making 550cc direct-injected four-strokes, and having the 450 class usurp the 250s? There's really no excuse for why the premier riders in the world aren't riding bikes that are pushing 90+ hp. We've thrown caution to the wind long ago, it's time to really ratchet-up the depravity.
And a push-to-pass button like Indycar.
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fullfloater 7/30/2016 2:10pm
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They aren't bulky enough either. Yamaha in particular needs to cram more stuff in that engine cradle area. Another cylinder would solve everything.
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Derpin' DJ 7/30/2016 2:15pm
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A 125 could go just as fast down those Millville hills as a 450 (perhaps faster as you could leave the braking later)
Andy_Greenney 7/30/2016 2:17pm
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Mx has very few rules to limit speed compared to other forms of Motorsport. Is there really any way you could improve a factory 450 to make it go faster, would more CC's or more power bring lap times down? Doubtful. Will we reach a point that limiting factors need to be brought in for rider and spectator safety?

The one thing that always surprised me was how close spectators can stand at the side/landing of big jumps. Only a matter of time before a cross rut ends very badly.
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MR. X 7/30/2016 2:29pm
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Looks like happy hour started early today , Cheers bro.
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colintrax wrote:
We need more of this. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/07/30/145173/s1200_2016_07_30_16_00_46_452314194.jpg[/img]
We need more of this.

Uncle_Eddie wrote:
"So fresh n so clean clean"
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TheGetFresh 7/30/2016 2:35pm
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"it's time to really ratchet-up the depravity."

I like your style, triplefive
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brimx153 7/30/2016 2:37pm
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Most of the time people who get really hurt they are going slow imo . Massive jumps a big problem for the weekend warrior .You get people jumping ,jump s that are every bit as big as what a pro jumps and they shouldnt be imo . Fitness causes alot of injuries on these big jumps because your grand at the start of the race ,then at the end people are tired and have arm pump .That when going for a 120ft double can go bad really quick . Its the TRACKS not the bikes imo
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seth505 7/30/2016 2:50pm
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brimx153 wrote:
Most of the time people who get really hurt they are going slow imo . Massive jumps a big problem for the weekend warrior .You get...
Most of the time people who get really hurt they are going slow imo . Massive jumps a big problem for the weekend warrior .You get people jumping ,jump s that are every bit as big as what a pro jumps and they shouldnt be imo . Fitness causes alot of injuries on these big jumps because your grand at the start of the race ,then at the end people are tired and have arm pump .That when going for a 120ft double can go bad really quick . Its the TRACKS not the bikes imo
If a weekend warrior that sucks at jumping is tryin to launch a 120 ft jump its a personal issue.

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neverwas 7/30/2016 2:50pm
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Ludicrous speed
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slipdog 7/30/2016 3:22pm
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At least let those brave enough to race a 2-stroke have ten 5 second bursts of nitro to use through out the day.
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mxridr 7/30/2016 3:23pm
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Anyone ever come across that bug in Excitebike where the bike would suddenly start going so fast that when you hit a jump you would just sail over like 10 obtacles in one shot. You would then just stay at that ridiculous speed until you crashed into oblivion. Turns out that is what mx and sx have turned into!
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OnRails 7/30/2016 3:26pm
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Derpin' DJ wrote:
A 125 could go just as fast down those Millville hills as a 450 (perhaps faster as you could leave the braking later)
get real
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Jeremy200 7/30/2016 3:31pm
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imagine 14 year old's transitioning from 85's to 450's.

'we're gonna need a bigger ambulance"
TripleFive 7/30/2016 3:33pm
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kzizok wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/07/30/145172/s1200_image.jpg[/img]


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coastlinecascot 7/30/2016 6:34pm
7/30/2016 6:34pm
I have a mild built Yz450f and literally jump any triple out of a corner or damn near complete stop. I cant imagine a factory built bike. My 250 2t i have to rail a corner almost perfect to hit jumps out of a corner.
Kx125rider 7/30/2016 6:51pm
7/30/2016 6:51pm
I would really love,even just one sx race a year, to see a track designed by the riders.
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willie838 7/30/2016 8:14pm
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i'm thinking we need some turbos.

lets hear these bitches spool up.


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