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Lot's of threads in the last little bit about Marvin Moose Can and Christian Craig etc. "blocking" or riding "wide bikes" and cutting off riders behind them.
This thread really isn't about if its right or wrong (although I'm sure that's what it will evolve into). I'm really just interested how old you guys are that don't like it.
I'm 49 so I grew up watching riders bang bars, block pass, break check etc. as a normal course of racing. In fact is was the very definition of racing. If that stuff wasn't happening it was called "practice".
It this new attitude of "hold your line" and don't touch me or make contact being expressed by anyone over age 40?
This thread really isn't about if its right or wrong (although I'm sure that's what it will evolve into). I'm really just interested how old you guys are that don't like it.
I'm 49 so I grew up watching riders bang bars, block pass, break check etc. as a normal course of racing. In fact is was the very definition of racing. If that stuff wasn't happening it was called "practice".
It this new attitude of "hold your line" and don't touch me or make contact being expressed by anyone over age 40?
At least judging from on here
The Shop
I raced an ax a few weeks ago, 40+ class. Only 2 other shower up so we got combined with 14-16 schoolboy. Those kids got a lesson in racing from the gate to the checkers. Pissed off dads at first, but the kids realized the dads were wrong. Had one ask if i gave lessons lol. Dad didnt want his precious getting hurt, understandable.. But precious wanted to learn how to race. Not hold a line and make laps.
I like banging bars and rubbing, don't like cross jumping or blocking in the whoops by jumping infront of a rider. Marvin and Craig are masters at these moves.
I guess i haven't had the chance to read all the complaints.
Btw....I see Christian using some really , really good race craft. Cooper is just plain faster and i think Christian knows that but tries to race him the best he can. Christian has also kept it clean...and I'm hoping Cooper does too. I have a feeling Cooper's temper may get the best of him though....which i hope doesn't happen. There is clean racing , aggressive racing and then there is dirty racing....I'm a fan of the first two.
Pit Row
Your logic indicates we should just have time trials...instead of racing
MAYBE: your sense of entitlement(common in the 'handout' generation) is so ingrained in your DNA that you really don't think your comment is just ridiculous
cross jumping can be dangerous, but it's on the guy following to respect the leaders position or be fast enough to take it away...go ride the beginner class at a local race and see what real cross jumping is like lol
Second, I said I'm against riders holding others up and then dropping a bunch of positions and slowing everyone up. I don't think everyone going faster is entitled to have those guys just move over for them but, if you are going to hold other riders up you better be able to stick with them after they pass you or stay within a reasonable distance, not fade from 2nd to outside the top ten.
As to riding the beginner class, I've been there and done it. Surprisingly enough, when I raced it, the guys I was racing with never had that issue. Maybe the guys behind us did but we never had that issue to deal with. I have had to deal with those guys out at the track on a practice day, just not on a race day. I get the guy in front is in control of the situation and the guy behind needs to be aware but, are you going to tell me that at the pro level these guys don't know the consequences of cross jumping? These guys have been doing it forever and know the dangers of cross jumping, which is why I believe we see so few people doing it. A guy of Musquin's caliber knows better and shouldn't be doing it in the first place. Is the risk of having someone land on you because you cross jumped worth it? I don't think so.
I think Marv did quite a bit of it last year but I didn't see anything this year that was bad, at least what they showed on TV.
Craig has been fine. In fact, I'd say pretty clean, and I think the fact that Coop has raced him clean back means that he agrees.
I wasn't a fan of Coops move on Alldredge in practice although I think it must have been retaliation for something else.
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