What type of Vibration Dampening products do you use, if any?!?!?

9/29/2022 5:08am Edited Date/Time 10/4/2022 12:17pm
Getting the MAKO360 installed on my 2018 Sherco has been quite the journey. Not because XC Gear did anything wrong, but because I have an early-ish Sherco Two Stroke as the brand was still evolving in the United States. The odd, one-off, part numbers we discovered for the top triple clamp makes me wonder what other parts of this bike are "special".



The important part of this video is problem solving to find a solution and talking through how vast the vibration dampening and abuse reduction ecosystem really is. XC Gear and Sherco were extremely helpful in helping me figure out why there was an issue with what should have been a simple installation. The companies making vibration dampening products are trying to make dirt bikers enjoy their time on their bikes that much more.

The Vibration Dampening and Abuse Reduction ecosystem has grown a lot, but it also has a lot more room to grow. Elastomers (i.e. rubber), can be used to do some pretty cool things. This is where mountain bike suspension started, and look where they are now. So what's next, where do companies like Fasst Company, BRP, and XC Gear take these markets? Or do more companies have solutions that haven't been brought to market yet?

As dirt bikes evolve from combustion engines toward electric engines, what new technology will work its way into our midst? Will engineers from companies like the defunct Alta, or the fledgling Stark Future, bring entirely new concepts that we will quickly integrate? I'm excited to see where these two wheel machines of greatness evolve, and where they take us! Enjoy #GettingSeattime!!
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MudPup545
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9/29/2022 7:48am
I have this video on my “watch later” list.

I’m very interested in this system. My Beta 200 sends a lot of vibration through the bars.
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Heard green nail polish cuts down vibration in the bars and helps reduce arm pump.
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holeshot413
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The fasstco fkex bars on my Honda AF Cr 500 work awesome and took out a lot of the buzz
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mtl
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9/29/2022 9:37am
You lost me at Sherco.
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9/29/2022 9:41am
mtl wrote:
You lost me at Sherco.
Why? Genuine question.
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9/29/2022 9:46am
Fastco flex bars have a ton of great feedback (wait.....great feedback for less feedback).

The Xtrig Rocs system is decent....i have it on my KX450 and it's decent.

Put foam into the handlebars......
9/29/2022 10:03am
Moto520 wrote:
Fastco flex bars have a ton of great feedback (wait.....great feedback for less feedback). The Xtrig Rocs system is decent....i have it on my KX450 and...
Fastco flex bars have a ton of great feedback (wait.....great feedback for less feedback).

The Xtrig Rocs system is decent....i have it on my KX450 and it's decent.

Put foam into the handlebars......
Dumb Question . . . What type of foam do you put in the bars?!?!?!
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Ride with your legs.
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Gravel
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I’m using 20 pounds of belly fat..
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I run thick grips. That's all the vibration reduction I need.
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9/29/2022 11:57am
Just curious.... have you tried shimming the engine into the frame?
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9/29/2022 12:48pm
Gravel wrote:
I’m using 20 pounds of belly fat..
i resemble that remark.
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I read the title in the thread list but this thread is not at all about what I thought.

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9/29/2022 1:11pm
Good question.

I've used that Dynamat stuff on aluminum chassis with good results. The engine heat does make it gooey, though.
9/29/2022 2:37pm
I have the Mako 360 on my Beta and the flexx bars on my YZ 250X. Both nice, flexx bar not as much room on the bars for all the switches, buttons, hand guards, lever, etc. Riding off road only, no tracks.





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If the bike has bolt on grips, throw them away. A 2 stage grip helps with some vibration. You might have the crank balanced to less than .0005.
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308 wrote:
Heard green nail polish cuts down vibration in the bars and helps reduce arm pump.
This is true. I was in that race. She smoked us.
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I just hide the girlfriend's batteries, no more vibration
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Nice video. There are a few different subjects discussed and I want to separate them. Automotive drivetrain vibration control is a major industry. Every manufacturer has a dedicated team addressing this. And finally the flex handlebars I would separate from drivetrain vibration entirely because the shock impulse from wheel impact is not caused by the drivetrain and is really a separate issue.

I haven't bought any products like these, other than the factory equipment bar mounts and grips (and I suppose my boots too).

Dynamically balancing the drivetrain is the first fundamentally important factor. Second is how the drivetrain mounts to the chassis (like rubber motor & transmission mounts in a car). Travelling up the chassis, different bar mounts all work the same way, whether mounting the clamps or between the clamps and the bar. The deflection of the rubber is the fundamentally important factor in how damp unwanted shocks and vibration while keeping good feedback.

I wouldn't apply elastomeric damping material or counterweights to a chassis. That can reduce engine vibration but only by adding weight. The handlebar weights just seem like overkill IMO. Kyle Lewis ran a swingarm counterweight outdoors but I didn't see the product make it to market. Alpine ski manufacturer K2 had a piezoelectric damper for high speed chatter while keeping the stiffness and rebound of the ski - worked fantastic.

When I rip up my hands going through rock gardens, I'll look at my suspension and tire pressure - but mostly stay away from rocks and stick with moto.

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9/29/2022 5:45pm Edited Date/Time 9/30/2022 7:09pm
I bought a pair of these insoles from www.z-liner.com to put in my Tech 10’s. They have a video where they drop an egg on it and it bounces back. I tried it and it did bounce back without breaking. I bought a half size smaller and it fit in good with the booties, was a little tight at first but was good after an hour of riding. I didn’t notice it riding, but my joints may appreciate them after a season of use.
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9/29/2022 5:46pm
Just curious.... have you tried shimming the engine into the frame?
This works!!!
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9/29/2022 5:48pm Edited Date/Time 9/29/2022 5:49pm
I’ve used www.spidergrips.com on my 500, I felt they helped.
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9/29/2022 5:53pm
Also www.barsnake.com, you’d want to use the liquid application on 1 1/8 taper type bars. I think he may have runout of the liquid type, but give him a call, he also recommended another type of rubber to pour in as an option.
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9/29/2022 6:04pm
PHDS mounts on my 450 xcf and 450 sxf, XC Gear Mako 360 on my 501s. I’ll be the first to admit Austrian bikes vibrate the worst out of any of the modern bikes, and the Husqvarna with composite subframe seems to be even worse. Just my experience with ownership. When I have ridden my friends YZ 450, the first thing I notice is the lack of vibration throughout the entire chassis.
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I read an article in MxA back in the early 2000s . The guys were having trouble with vibrations on the new two strokes at the time. They actually took a small piece of rubber about four inches long and half inch diameter and inserted into their rectum before going out to ride. The results were incredible: reduced vibrations while riding by around 70%
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9/29/2022 11:34pm
I put X-trig roc’s rubber mounted clamps and pillow top grips on my excf500. It’s better but I think I’m going try a bar snake too. It’s never a problem in the dirt, but sometimes my hands go numb on long high speed road sections. It’s kind of weird it’ll get bad about 1/2 hour into the ride. But once I stop and rest a few minutes and shake em out it doesn’t happen for the rest of the day. Stock bar clamp on left
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Throw the Neken bar in the trashcan. Mount a Pro Taper instead.
I took the Husqvarna mx bar.
Went from being able to ride 13min mx to 25min no problem, no hands going numb. Armpump also disappeared from one day to the next when doing this.

Neken is a shit bar.
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9/30/2022 3:16am Edited Date/Time 9/30/2022 3:16am
XTrig flex-fix bar mounts - my go to bar mount. I prefer them over the PHDS however the only draw-back is you can only get them for the XTrig clamps. PHDS can be brought in an OEM clamp fitting configuration.
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My wife swears by the Rampant Rabbit, best vibration device she’s tested!😯🤣🤣🤣👍
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Brp top clamp on my yz250.

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