What to do when you can not fill the gate because of your own greed.

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Tbteam 11/19/2012 9:29am
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Dumbest fucking idea ever.

"Hey! Lets provide less racing for the fans!"

Do you think ticket prices will come down at those rounds?
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Barrett57 11/19/2012 9:30am
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The top guys should give him the middle finger and go to the USA.

What a load of shit.
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kongols 11/19/2012 9:34am
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I bet DC is laughing his ass off.
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GrapeApe 11/19/2012 9:40am
11/19/2012 9:40am Edited Date/Time 11/19/2012 9:40am
I think that would be really cool to see the top 20 in each class square off. Those races may be the only GP's that draw interest from me, particularly the MX2 class.

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nytsmaC 11/19/2012 9:44am
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This is really a let down, I like keeping tabs on the GP's but this is a complete joke. I'm losing interest fast with shit like this surfacing.
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Hanaa80 11/19/2012 9:53am
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You guys should be grateful that these clowns didn't get the U.S. outdoors series.
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OW38B 11/19/2012 9:56am
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GrapeApe wrote:
I think that would be really cool to see the top 20 in each class square off. Those races may be the only GP's that draw...
I think that would be really cool to see the top 20 in each class square off. Those races may be the only GP's that draw interest from me, particularly the MX2 class.
X2

They won't be able to run a full gate of talent at those remote GP's.

They are trying to make lemonade out of the lemons they made.

I don't agree on how they got there, but now they are there they are making the best of it.
twosmoke30 11/19/2012 9:59am
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kongols wrote:
I bet DC is laughing his ass off.
DC isn't in that great of a position either
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kongols 11/19/2012 10:14am
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kongols wrote:
I bet DC is laughing his ass off.
twosmoke30 wrote:
DC isn't in that great of a position either
There is around 80 participants in each class in every National.
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biker85 11/19/2012 10:29am
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OW38B wrote:
X2 They won't be able to run a full gate of talent at those remote GP's. They are trying to make lemonade out of the lemons...
X2

They won't be able to run a full gate of talent at those remote GP's.

They are trying to make lemonade out of the lemons they made.

I don't agree on how they got there, but now they are there they are making the best of it.
if you cant get a full gate in Qatar, Mexico or Thailand .... why go there?????

Who benifits from the Gp's in Mexico, Brasil ..... only YS i think
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Alex 11/19/2012 10:34am
11/19/2012 10:34am Edited Date/Time 11/19/2012 10:41am
The Brazilian GP in 96 had something like 18 GP regulars. There were travel subsidies, prizemoney and racing costs were a fraction of what they are now. Yet last years MX1 GP at Indiatuba had 23 GP riders. Overseas races are a big problem for a promoter. Think 'World' SX championship RD1 at the Olympic stadium in Spain a few years back.

Combined races are the sort of thing you see in the Domestic championships and they are good fun to watch, but I'm not convinced that this is a bright idea for GPs. This is not the way to solve the problem of low turnout of GP regulars. Equally theres no point in saying this is a problem created by YS because its not.
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biker85 11/19/2012 10:40am
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only top 15-20 got travel subsidies in those days?

So it's not YS fault, Gp's are so expensive now?
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pawsan 11/19/2012 10:56am
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how about this for a novel idea.....

drop the fucking cost of entry fee's and local pro's might be able to afford to fill the gates.
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steed 2.0 11/19/2012 11:06am
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The switch also allows the likes of MX2 World Champion Jeffrey Herlings the chance to race against Tony Cairoli and co each week and makes the entire heart of the Grand Prix more TV friendly.
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kongols 11/19/2012 11:17am
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steed 2.0 wrote:
[i] The switch also allows the likes of MX2 World Champion Jeffrey Herlings the chance to race against Tony Cairoli and co each week and makes...
The switch also allows the likes of MX2 World Champion Jeffrey Herlings the chance to race against Tony Cairoli and co each week and makes the entire heart of the Grand Prix more TV friendly.
There is a bridge in San Francisco.
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peabody 11/19/2012 11:20am
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If it works out, YS will most likely change to a Grand National (World) Championship like the AMA had when Bailey won two of those titles.
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Hutch 11/19/2012 11:32am
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RIP GPMX !!!! May you rest in peace. We need a boycott, now.

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Sunhouse 11/19/2012 11:38am
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Seems to me the second moto will be the most exciting the upcoming season. But imagine the anger when 2nd place MX1 guy is being held back by 1st place MX2 guy, and will lose valuable points because he can´t pass him
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rallendude 11/19/2012 11:39am
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steed 2.0 wrote:
[i] The switch also allows the likes of MX2 World Champion Jeffrey Herlings the chance to race against Tony Cairoli and co each week and makes...
The switch also allows the likes of MX2 World Champion Jeffrey Herlings the chance to race against Tony Cairoli and co each week and makes the entire heart of the Grand Prix more TV friendly.
Herlings can line up and race Cairoli every week if he wants. Just move up a class. How 'bout you try out a one moto format.... oh wait.....
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pmcc 11/19/2012 1:04pm
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pawsan wrote:
how about this for a novel idea..... drop the fucking cost of entry fee's and local pro's might be able to afford to fill the gates...
how about this for a novel idea.....

drop the fucking cost of entry fee's and local pro's might be able to afford to fill the gates.
You think its safe to let local rider from qatar ride in the same race as Cairoli and co??? That didn't work out well in mexico.

I dont think the cost of the entry fees are the problem for the low entry for oversea's races, as proved in a post above, however a drop in price would help in the European Gp's, especially for our guys who are at or close to gp standard
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DrSweden 11/19/2012 1:52pm
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Sounds like a band aid for a broken system, but quite honestly, It will be fun to watch. I think karma will hit back sooner or later, and our feelings will reflected if this keeps getting worse. I think this is a good thing though, since further dysfunction (if this turnds out to be) will create a new series, but if the running series instead adapt, changes to something better that new series has no place to emerge.

The sport, the interested is bigger than the promotors, right now there's an imbalance that nature will adjust, again sooner or later.

No need to worry people.
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M-M 11/19/2012 2:28pm
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Giuseppe should just turn the mx1 and mx2 classes into a "run what ya brung class" and get it over with.

It's a great concept to to follow F1 and Motogp but motocross just isn't in the same money league as those two. With the current climate not all riders and teams can afford to go globe trotting. Why not offer them some help to make those gates full!?
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TFS 11/19/2012 5:14pm
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WTF with the negativity? You monkies have no clue. It was the teams' idea.

You people dont know shit but lickin Morgantown's balls. Smile
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GuyB 11/19/2012 5:51pm
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TFS wrote:
WTF with the negativity? You monkies have no clue. It was the teams' idea.

You people dont know shit but lickin Morgantown's balls. Smile
Well, they did learn from the best...
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dboivin 11/19/2012 6:12pm
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solve the problem by paying out money to the riders. if they put up big money for 20th-40th, they would get a full gate, even from americans (they woulda drove to mexico if the money is there).

the GP's model suck. so much pay to play and non-payin bullshit going on. it will fail completely someday. its coming.

twosmoke30: pretty sure davey is sitting in the best position possible. euro's are invading his races and local pro-ams are flocking to try and make the cut. only thing missing IMO is higher payouts and i hope someday that improves.
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kardy 11/19/2012 6:49pm
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TFS wrote:
WTF with the negativity? You monkies have no clue. It was the teams' idea.

You people dont know shit but lickin Morgantown's balls. Smile
GuyB wrote:
Well, they did learn from the best...
Ohhhhhhh..... SNAP.
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bents 11/19/2012 9:17pm
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Well its a bad idea-a dumb fucking idea. You don't know who you are always battling with, and it could be someone that has no effect on someone's ultimate result. This concept just dummies down GPMX. Fucks up all of its history. If you can't afford to cross the pond here and there to put these races on, don't do it. If you can't fill the gates, don't go. When the sport or the series is in a position to do it, fine. Until then, stay the fuck out of Mexico or wherever else you are going to go that can't support the event properly.

Stupid.

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