What tips, advice or drills stuck with you?

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10/26/2021 12:55 PM
Edited Date/Time: 10/26/2021 12:55 PM

I know there are a few similar threads and of course nothing replaces seat time and experience...

Besides that I'm curious if any tips or advice hit a chord and stuck with you guys, or benefitted you, or maybe any drills (figure 8s, laps stood up) that you swear by that helped your technique?

Mental, physical, on the bike, off the bike, whatever you like, anything that you feel helped you personally.

Just interested to hear people's take on it, thanks.

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10/26/2021 12:58 PM

I’ve gotten into a habit of warming up for 10-15 minutes on a turn track. Feet on pegs whole time. Do 5 minutes standing only off the jump. When I find myself riding a little off I go back to the basics of toes in heels out.

One thing I’m working on is rotating my wrists out more. To help with this I move my levers as far in as possible

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10/26/2021 1:29 PM

Getting in shape so I could enjoy riding for fun more, focusing on proper form and technique rather than having speed come first for sure.

Having a good group of friends to ride with, always makes it better to have your friends talk you into hitting something you aren't doing yet, or when you get a glimpse of your friend around the corner so you ride extra hard to pass him.

Ride off-road or race hare scrambles. Ruts on a hardpack motocross track feel like cake after navigating peg deep ruts with roots in the bottom of them. Teaches you how to ride more efficiently for a longer period of time, maybe not as balls out fast as you could be but a lot smoother and safer.

Don't be afraid to play with your clickers.

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Unleaded tastes a little tangy. Supreme is kinda sour, and diesel tastes pretty good.

10/26/2021 1:32 PM

Gold tips, 20volt, Dewalt

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10/26/2021 1:45 PM

Hold my line. Look ahead. Elbows up.

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Bret Bonham

10/26/2021 1:52 PM

When in doubt throttle out

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10/26/2021 2:35 PM

Align the handlebars with your shoulders and lead with your head. It makes everything so easy to understand once you get this part right.
Obviously, it doesn't work in every scenario, as there are times when you want to be as far back as possible. However, try a bunch of flat turns and you'll see what I mean: sit way up on the gas tank, lead with your head and point your inside elbow toward the turn. If you do it right, your shoulders will go in line with the bars and you'll initiate an easy turn.
This all goes hand in hand with the concept of "leaning vs. steering."

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Braaapin' aint easy.

10/26/2021 3:17 PM

The mags had all kind of tips back in the late 70s, early 80s.

I couldn't afford mx school, which back then just gary baily, Russian darnell, or the Suzuki school out in cali.

Figure 8s for long periods of time, moving the tires around to make it different.

If a couple of us went to ride somewhere we would have different kinds of races. Feet on the pegs, standing up, or one handed. It is surprising how much stuff like that helps a rider learn different ways to control the bike.

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10/26/2021 3:21 PM

A question Donnie Hansen asked us at a school once that we didn't know the answer too was.
"When do you apply the brakes"
The answer was as soon as you let off the gas. No coasting. Very tiresome if your not used to it.

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10/26/2021 3:24 PM

Weighing the outside peg in a turn really helped. Also elbows up like mentioned.

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"Shifting gears and passing queers" GL

10/26/2021 3:26 PM

Jaybird67k wrote:

A question Donnie Hansen asked us at a school once that we didn't know the answer too was.
"When do you apply the brakes"
The ...more


Donnie drilled us on that technique at his E-Street academy when I was 11 years old and I still use it to this day!
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Do It In The Dirt!

10/26/2021 3:28 PM

Ice riding is great for working on cornering and bike control. Mix it up with turn tracks figure 8,s etc. Then do your tracks without ever sitting. you end up trying all different ways of riding not realizing your polishing bike control. On dirt you need sprint laps really push it. Passes in a race r easier then.

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10/26/2021 3:44 PM

Unlock the hips

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10/26/2021 3:52 PM

Laps with no seat, seated and standing figure 8s and pushing a locked front wheel in 1st or 2nd gear. The last two are great warm ups when I’m waiting for someone to figure out how to start their bike..

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10/26/2021 4:06 PM

Never put the pussy on a pedestal.

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10/26/2021 6:10 PM

Elbows up, stand up more than you think is necessary, and remember to have fun.

I also crack 1-2 coors lights right after warm ups. Makes the day more fun.

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If it can't be fixed with a hammer, it's an electrical problem.

10/26/2021 7:02 PM

Jaybird67k wrote:

A question Donnie Hansen asked us at a school once that we didn't know the answer too was.
"When do you apply the brakes"
The ...more

Zeke27G wrote:
Donnie drilled us on that technique at his E-Street academy when I was 11 years old and I still use it to this day!

I think that works better with a two-stroke. Ryan Dungy was the king of coasting speed into corners. He would brake early and roll into the corner. I have a hard time with this because like you guys I was told to be either on the brakes or on the throttle.

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Take it to the limit, one more time!

10/26/2021 7:43 PM

Ride laps with no seat and no rear brake!

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10/26/2021 7:53 PM

Balance drills from the tony d schools. Move as slow as possible sitting in the attack position and again in the standing attack position. You don’t realize how beneficial that is until something throws you off riding at speed and instead of crash you ride it out and don’t lose much if any time.

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10/27/2021 1:54 AM

Jaybird67k wrote:

A question Donnie Hansen asked us at a school once that we didn't know the answer too was.
"When do you apply the brakes"
The ...more

Zeke27G wrote:
Donnie drilled us on that technique at his E-Street academy when I was 11 years old and I still use it to this day!
mx317 wrote:

I think that works better with a two-stroke. Ryan Dungy was the king of coasting speed into corners. He would brake early and ...more

I agree, it really helped me on my 450 when I roll through the corners.

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10/27/2021 1:59 AM

Two things that made a huge difference to my riding overnight was riding on the balls of my feet and gripping with my knees. Unfortunately as my dad was new to mx too I never learnt this untill after 5 years of riding at my first training school when I was 15!
For drills I always make sure i do one 10-15mins session riding all around the track standing. Making sure to go inside aswell as outside. Really makes you realise just how fast you can corner ok your feet and how some corners are actually easier like that.

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10/27/2021 2:44 AM

PDUB481 wrote:

Gold tips, 20volt, Dewalt

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10/27/2021 3:12 AM

Consistent rpms in corners. And dragging the front brake to keep the front end tracking in ruts.

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10/27/2021 3:59 AM

Ride forward on the bike... Not in the dump position with your ass still sticking out back, Waay forward. Let the bike try to catch up with you and you won't have to hang on so tight, saving energy. (Gary Bailey)

No Coasting. Either be on the gas, or be on the brakes. (MX Kied)

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10/27/2021 5:08 AM

Steve125 wrote:

Ride forward on the bike... Not in the dump position with your ass still sticking out back, Waay forward. Let the bike try to ...more

This explains why coasting works on a 4-stroke.

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Cornering-Technique-2-stroke-vs-4-stroke,1294116

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Take it to the limit, one more time!

10/27/2021 6:35 AM

Turning the throttle till it stops not just turning part way ...turning it all the way till it stops.

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10/27/2021 6:40 AM

Only smoking weed the night before and not drinking a 6 pack of IPA's the night before riding/racing. You wouldn't think it makes much of a difference but everyone is different.

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10/27/2021 8:16 AM

If I had to pick one piece of advice that almost immediately dropped my lap times. Stay standing into corners until you're back on the gas.
Of course standing all the way through is better at times as well depending on the corner.

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10/27/2021 8:18 AM

Stand up laps

“Turn with your feet”

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10/27/2021 8:23 AM

Always keep your eyes looking ahead...not in front.

Grip with your knees.

Stand up as much as you can.

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