What makes landing ramps so neccesary?

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3/1/2018 8:56 AM
Edited Date/Time: 3/1/2018 12:49 PM

If rider's are getting hurt because they can't clear the "grand canyon" why not just let them land to flat more often? We saw it in Houston and liked it. Those that can go 100ft let it rip, those that can't don't. No consequences either way.

It's not the jump that gets you, it's all good till the landing.

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3/1/2018 9:04 AM
Edited Date/Time: 3/1/2018 9:11 AM

I think this is a "show" issue.

Without multiples to slow them down over a long section, everyone would scrub the shit out of the jump, or even roll it, and start getting power down. Being in the air is a losing racing proposition, unless it is saving you from an even slower line.

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3/1/2018 9:14 AM

Johnny Depp wrote:

If rider's are getting hurt because they can't clear the "grand canyon" why not just let them land to flat more often? We saw it in Houston and liked it. Those that can go 100ft let it rip, those that can't don't. No consequences either way.

It's not the jump that gets you, it's all good till the landing.

I’ve said this for ages. Anything with a landing ramp dictates the speed of the obstacle and riders (with the marginal exception of being able to scrub better than the next guy). And that creates less opportunities for passing.

Too many jumps, (and especially double/triples) creates worse racing IMO.

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3/1/2018 9:14 AM

Flat landing everything would be brutal on your arms and legs.
Multiple jumps do bring timing into the equation, thus separating riders.

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3/1/2018 9:16 AM

kkawboy14 wrote:

Flat landing everything would be brutal on your arms and legs.
Multiple jumps do bring timing into the equation, thus separating riders.

People obviously like this aspect of the sport. There's even an event that is just this aspect.

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3/1/2018 9:21 AM

Dirty Points wrote:

People obviously like this aspect of the sport. There's even an event that is just this aspect.

The most popular thing at that event was the 2 strokes

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3/1/2018 9:24 AM

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3/1/2018 9:45 AM

Flat landings suck and they always will.

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3/1/2018 9:48 AM

I always liked the ski jump style thing they had at Vegas

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3/1/2018 9:57 AM

Lmao. You can't be serious? You think the racing would be better if every lane just had a one to two single jumps?

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3/1/2018 9:59 AM

Johnny Depp wrote:

If rider's are getting hurt because they can't clear the "grand canyon" why not just let them land to flat more often? We saw it in Houston and liked it. Those that can go 100ft let it rip, those that can't don't. No consequences either way.

It's not the jump that gets you, it's all good till the landing.

Please someone post the bear.

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3/1/2018 9:59 AM

aeffertz wrote:

Lmao. You can't be serious? You think the racing would be better if every lane just had a one to two single jumps?

It would be drag racing. Bring out the new CRF seven-hundreds.

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3/1/2018 10:04 AM

aeffertz wrote:

Lmao. You can't be serious? You think the racing would be better if every lane just had a one to two single jumps?

The thought that goes thru my head when I open a Johnny Depp thread:
"A drug person can learn to cope with things like seeing their dead grandmother crawling up their leg with a knife in her teeth. But no one should be asked to handle this trip."

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3/1/2018 10:05 AM

Johnny Depp is literally the worst poster on this site. Congrats!

I won't even watch your movies anymore...

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3/1/2018 10:27 AM

Must everything be about whether this is a good thread or a bad thread?
Let’s get back to the.....how much air pressure should I run in my tires threads?
Answer the question or dont

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3/1/2018 10:31 AM
Edited Date/Time: 3/1/2018 10:31 AM

disbanded wrote:

Johnny Depp is literally the worst poster on this site. Congrats!

I won't even watch your movies anymore...

Depp questions entrenched aspects of the sport. That's good. We need to improve.

He doesn't always have a workable replacement in mind, but that's a different issue.

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3/1/2018 10:35 AM

Let me try to understand this.....3 weeks ago we needed to fix triples with either an escape lane or just turning the 2nd & 3rd jumps into a table....the next week we needed staggered starts because those first turns are just too dangerous and messed up the racing....this week we're just going to flat land...WTH will it be next week??

Maybe we let them build the tracks, sell the tickets to fill up the stadiums and just let the riders stand on a stage and play the SX video game on the big screens....FFS...

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3/1/2018 10:52 AM

DonM wrote:

Let me try to understand this.....3 weeks ago we needed to fix triples with either an escape lane or just turning the 2nd & 3rd jumps into a table....the next week we needed staggered starts because those first turns are just too dangerous and messed up the racing....this week we're just going to flat land...WTH will it be next week??

Maybe we let them build the tracks, sell the tickets to fill up the stadiums and just let the riders stand on a stage and play the SX video game on the big screens....FFS...

All sand, just sand jumps, sand whoops, sand berm, sand podium, sand ricky carmichael, sand castles. Sand = soft.

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3/1/2018 11:08 AM

We need more ramps, way more rythm sections, with steeper ramps that slow the pace. The tracks are easy, that's why there are 15 guys on the same second instead of 3. The top guys to rise to the top have to send it and scrub it like maniacs and that's what causing so many injuries.

Feld wants stuff happening, entertainment, carnage, not a "Stewart" doing magic.

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3/1/2018 11:10 AM

You think linkages dig in, wait until a front wheel explodes.

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We are the sum of a 1,000 lives. What we know is almost nothing at all.

3/1/2018 11:12 AM

I was really hoping this was just a click bait title. Unfortunately it was serious..have another tide pod.

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3/1/2018 11:15 AM

"What makes landing ramps so neccesary?"

Gravity and tera firma....which gravity is pulling you towards at a rate of 9.81 m/s/s

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3/1/2018 11:22 AM

Go test this; jump your equally capable Beta XC bike to the verified 93 foot quad from this weekend to flat and tell us how that works out for ya...

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3/1/2018 11:23 AM

DonM wrote:

Let me try to understand this.....3 weeks ago we needed to fix triples with either an escape lane or just turning the 2nd & 3rd jumps into a table....the next week we needed staggered starts because those first turns are just too dangerous and messed up the racing....this week we're just going to flat land...WTH will it be next week??

Maybe we let them build the tracks, sell the tickets to fill up the stadiums and just let the riders stand on a stage and play the SX video game on the big screens....FFS...

dirtmike86 wrote:

All sand, just sand jumps, sand whoops, sand berm, sand podium, sand ricky carmichael, sand castles. Sand = soft.

Herlings to race SX in 2019 confirmed.

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3/1/2018 11:24 AM

"It's not the jump that gets you"

The bike and riders reaction to the take off is what got Ken Roczen at Monster Cup in late '16 and A2 in early '17.

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3/1/2018 11:29 AM

Amazing how everybody piles on. The OP has a point. Not saying tracks should be littered with giant singles but they sure have gotten stale. Look at the sand section last weekend. That one idea made for some of the most creative riding of the evening. Feld should really think outside the box at a few rounds.

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3/1/2018 11:30 AM
Edited Date/Time: 3/1/2018 12:04 PM

ML512 wrote:

Go test this; jump your equally capable Beta XC bike to the verified 93 foot quad from this weekend to flat and tell us how that works out for ya...

I mean, a Beta won the +60 class once....So it is clearly a viable MX weapon.

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Tomac and/or Anderson for 2020.....

3/1/2018 11:35 AM

Lately on here every action requires an utterly ridiculous over reaction....

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3/1/2018 11:35 AM

ML512 wrote:

Go test this; jump your equally capable Beta XC bike to the verified 93 foot quad from this weekend to flat and tell us how that works out for ya...

BobPA wrote:

I mean, a Beta won the +60 class once....So it is clearly a viable MX weapon.

Motion to change user name to "Master-Beta".

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3/1/2018 11:37 AM

disbanded wrote:

Johnny Depp is literally the worst poster on this site. Congrats!

I won't even watch your movies anymore...

More like Johnny Derp,

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