What if privateers just don't show up?

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Edited Date/Time 8/12/2019 6:56pm
I'm continually incensed how shitty the majority of our pros are treated and paid by our sports promoters. I would suggest a large privateer "walk-out" at the last national of the year. Just don't show up and let's see how well the show comes off.

PS. Factory riders are welcome to take the day off as well.

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kb228 8/12/2019 11:30am
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Id imagine not showing up means you break obligations with sponsors and you dont get paid
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ddog558 8/12/2019 11:33am
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Then our Nationals would look just like the MXGP starting line...
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With the exception of the start...I don't think it would matter at all...and certainly not for those watching on TV.
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NVA57 8/12/2019 11:43am
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After watching Unadilla I’m sure some top runners would be glad if they don’t.
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nealb129 8/12/2019 11:57am
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Then I can try and qualify. It will be a real “pros vs joes” then! Try and stop my 4:00 min lap time!
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dickjackson170 8/12/2019 11:59am
8/12/2019 11:59am
That'll show them. A guy that's potentially already irrelevant in the standings, not becoming a lapper for 1 race. Brilliant.
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Moto331 8/12/2019 11:59am
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nealb129 wrote:
Then I can try and qualify. It will be a real “pros vs joes” then! Try and stop my 4:00 min lap time!
Ha this right here. I would be lapped before my first lap was completed lol
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UpTiTe 8/12/2019 12:05pm
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kb228 wrote:
Id imagine not showing up means you break obligations with sponsors and you dont get paid
They’re privateers so they’re not getting paid.
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77Moto 8/12/2019 12:16pm
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Their Moms and Dads would be stoked! They could buy themselves a nice day out and some drinks!
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Lawrence929 8/12/2019 12:46pm
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seventeen 8/12/2019 12:54pm
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Yeah shit on the privateers guys...good choice. I am sure Stanton, Dowd, Henry, Peick, Noren and all those who earned a ride with grit and not amature results would agree...
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zehn 8/12/2019 1:00pm
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If your life's dream is to make a living racing a dirtbike, you're doing it wrong

Racing a motorcycle of any kind has never, from day 1, been a viable career path for all but the .01%
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JBrockman856 8/12/2019 1:01pm
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pretty crazy to think there are riders that race because they actually enjoy racing
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OLDMOTO 8/12/2019 1:07pm
8/12/2019 1:07pm Edited Date/Time 8/12/2019 1:08pm
It wouldn't do any good for them. The television wouldn't show or speak about it. The moto journalists wouldn't write about it to any great extent. The factories and the moto industry as a whole probably don't care very much as well. I doubt MX Sports is going to reach into their pocket either. There is very little money in motocross these days.
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aFACEdismembered 8/12/2019 1:38pm
8/12/2019 1:38pm
The racing at the front would play out the same as it has all year and no one would care besides people emotionally invested in those privateers not attending.
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Jeff_Crutcher 8/12/2019 1:55pm
8/12/2019 1:55pm
aFACEdismembered wrote:
The racing at the front would play out the same as it has all year and no one would care besides people emotionally invested in those...
The racing at the front would play out the same as it has all year and no one would care besides people emotionally invested in those privateers not attending.
When I watch formula 1 I don’t care about who’s in the last third of the field.

In motocross I do.

Guess which one I race?

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kiwifan 8/12/2019 2:11pm
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Sorry, I get that privateers need more help but it is a dumb idea. That is NOT going to help them earn contingency money...darn I say it, making a living.
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UpTiTe 8/12/2019 2:31pm
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If I was a privateer who made the night show and occasional mains, I wouldn’t ride a national. I spend my time getting better at supercross and earn a living that way.

No privateer is making money outdoors.
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level 8/12/2019 2:38pm
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If you don’t want to be a privateer then get better. Lots of them out there just learning and trying to improve.
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mxman 8/12/2019 2:41pm
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Broadcast coverage only follows the top 10 guys. So who would know if no privateers showed up.
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aFACEdismembered 8/12/2019 3:16pm
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aFACEdismembered wrote:
The racing at the front would play out the same as it has all year and no one would care besides people emotionally invested in those...
The racing at the front would play out the same as it has all year and no one would care besides people emotionally invested in those privateers not attending.
Jeff_Crutcher wrote:
When I watch formula 1 I don’t care about who’s in the last third of the field.

In motocross I do.

Guess which one I race?
Good for you. You care about 27-40th. Besides 722 there is absolutely zero value there for any would be financial investment in to the sport on a helpful scale minus Teasdale's pay to play ride. You only matter in those non points positions if you already have money because you ain't getting money for almost being good enough. If that was the case I'd be a millionaire by now.

I'd care about 13-20th if only 20 guys lined up. Oh wait, they already do that in Supercross and the top 20 make a decent wage. If you can score points for 29 weeks (barring injury) then yes, you deserve a livable wage.

You don't have to tangibly take part in something to determine whether or not a person who will never achieve their sporting goals isgoing to make money at it. The writing is literally all over the place telling you "STOP. THIS ISN'T GOING TO WORK THE WAY YOU WANT. QUITE MAKING IT WORSE AND PROLONGING THE INEVITABLE."
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brapgod69 8/12/2019 3:57pm
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If they stop showing up, I’ll show up and get lapped 5-6 times for the hell of it.
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whyZ 8/12/2019 4:07pm
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So why have a 40 man gate, when apparently all you need is 10?
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inthebadboycorner 8/12/2019 4:19pm
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aFACEdismembered wrote:
The racing at the front would play out the same as it has all year and no one would care besides people emotionally invested in those...
The racing at the front would play out the same as it has all year and no one would care besides people emotionally invested in those privateers not attending.
Bullshit
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inthebadboycorner 8/12/2019 4:22pm
8/12/2019 4:22pm
level wrote:
If you don’t want to be a privateer then get better. Lots of them out there just learning and trying to improve.
Did you think long about this before you posted?
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Harry_Gray 8/12/2019 4:26pm
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kb228 wrote:
Id imagine not showing up means you break obligations with sponsors and you dont get paid
If the privateers did this; I'm sure their sponsors would probably support them on this. I'm not gonna throw DC under the bus on this, as I think he's doing an otherwise good job. However, there has to be a way for someone that isn't factory supported but in the top 20 to make a living racing outdoors.
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honda907 8/12/2019 4:41pm
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Careful what you wish for. As bad as it is, and I think it's bad, it could be worse. If MX sports goes away so will outdoor MX.

Dont think so huh? Just look at AX. It wasn't going away, then when it did something else better would rise from the fire.

Well? What happened? Nothing. No AX. Bye bye.

Same thing will happen with the outdoor series.

I wish all the fake hype would go away with the sport. But maybe that is keeping it somewhat viable.

For now.

There is no money for anyone in the sport. The purse is a joke. 2 first place motos nets you l$3050 ($1525 per moto)for the day I believe . Half the privateers families parents net that every week at a real job. And their parents aren't even the best in the world at what they do.

Think about that.

I dont have the answers. Nor do I really care anymore. But if outdoor MX goes, so too will MX.
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