What happened to the live helmet cams?

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2/6/2018 3:17 AM

If I remember correctly there were some live helmet cams in use a two, or maybe three years ago in SX, that were used in the broadcast. Pretty cool feature if you asked me. Do you know what happened to these and why they're not in use anymore? Is it because those were not gopro's maybe? Not sure what brand it was...

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2/6/2018 5:07 AM

I was just thinking that this weekend. I remember RC running it in SX 2005, and as recent as a few years ago. That'd be awesome to have the split screen with the spider cam on a battle, and one of the riders wearing a live helmet cam.

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2/6/2018 5:21 AM

I think MX vs ATV bought out all the rights to show any FPV of the track. At least that is what it seems. We get a full lap with commentary in FPV in MX vs ATV, but they will show maybe half a lap on a go-pro. It's so dumb. I want to see and hear what the riders see and hear. They also said they would have live heart rate monitoring this year and they have barely shown that. They really need to use the LitPro, heart rate monitors, and gopro or FPV footage. They have all this technology and would rather show you a video game layout of the track that looks nothing like race day conditions. I could rant about this all day....

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2/6/2018 6:52 AM

Not sure how much its evolved but it sounds fairly out there that a streaming helmet cam will send out HD video to the broadcast booth wirelessly quick enough to match the other cameras.

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2/6/2018 7:40 AM

I cant wait to see some top pros race each other in an all electric bike race, I want to hear the crap they shout at each other now that we will be able to hear it

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2/6/2018 7:42 AM

kb228 wrote:

Not sure how much its evolved but it sounds fairly out there that a streaming helmet cam will send out HD video to the broadcast booth wirelessly quick enough to match the other cameras.

They have it in F1, MotoGP and other forms of motorsport. Why would this tech be unavailable for MX/SX?

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2/6/2018 7:59 AM

And while we are at cheap technology, what about helmet to pit communication?

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2/6/2018 8:07 AM

Johnny Depp wrote:

And while we are at cheap technology, what about helmet to pit communication?

Against the rules.

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2/6/2018 8:08 AM

kb228 wrote:

Not sure how much its evolved but it sounds fairly out there that a streaming helmet cam will send out HD video to the broadcast booth wirelessly quick enough to match the other cameras.

shanhard wrote:

They have it in F1, MotoGP and other forms of motorsport. Why would this tech be unavailable for MX/SX?

Like i said im not sure how much its evolved. I dont watch any other sports so i didnt know. Hell if its on motogp i dont see why it cant be in supercross then.

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2/6/2018 8:14 AM
Edited Date/Time: 2/6/2018 8:14 AM

Clearly you all haven't watched race day live? Feld is on the stream struggle bus. Can't imagine how poorly a live helmet cam would be

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2/6/2018 8:17 AM

Seems they cant even get basic streams going well from what ive read here, and the way rights are ao heavily controlled and bought, then add in the closed door mo of this sports Its no wonder things move backwards..

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2/6/2018 8:20 AM

Johnny Depp wrote:

And while we are at cheap technology, what about helmet to pit communication?

Dirty Points wrote:

Against the rules.

Exactly, but why? I understand that 30 years ago it was cost prohibitive, but now? Any 10 year old could do it with a cell phone and bluetooth. https://readwrite.com/2012/05/23/5-push-to-talk-apps-that-turn-your-smartphone-into-a-walkie-talkie/

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2/6/2018 8:21 AM
Edited Date/Time: 2/6/2018 8:42 AM

Johnny Depp wrote:

And while we are at cheap technology, what about helmet to pit communication?

Dirty Points wrote:

Against the rules.

Johnny Depp wrote:

Exactly, but why? I understand that 30 years ago it was cost prohibitive, but now? Any 10 year old could do it with a cell phone and bluetooth. https://readwrite.com/2012/05/23/5-push-to-talk-apps-that-turn-your-smartphone-into-a-walkie-talkie/

I'd imagine to repress the sophistication of "team tactics" versus "just racing".

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2/6/2018 8:23 AM

Dirty Points wrote:

Against the rules.

Johnny Depp wrote:

Exactly, but why? I understand that 30 years ago it was cost prohibitive, but now? Any 10 year old could do it with a cell phone and bluetooth. https://readwrite.com/2012/05/23/5-push-to-talk-apps-that-turn-your-smartphone-into-a-walkie-talkie/

Dirty Points wrote:

I'd imagine to repress the sophistication of "team tactics" versus "just racing".

I cant imagine even hearing a radio or conciously understanding the words while racing sx.

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2/6/2018 8:30 AM
Edited Date/Time: 2/6/2018 9:08 AM

Johnny Depp wrote:

Exactly, but why? I understand that 30 years ago it was cost prohibitive, but now? Any 10 year old could do it with a cell phone and bluetooth. https://readwrite.com/2012/05/23/5-push-to-talk-apps-that-turn-your-smartphone-into-a-walkie-talkie/

Dirty Points wrote:

I'd imagine to repress the sophistication of "team tactics" versus "just racing".

kb228 wrote:

I cant imagine even hearing a radio or conciously understanding the words while racing sx.

You could if your whole job as 2nd or 3rd guy on a team was to focus on those words, maybe even over your own racing

And how much concentration does it really require to comprehend, "He's coming on the inside", etc?

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2/6/2018 8:50 AM

I could see it being particularly useful in the 3 moto format final moto.

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2/6/2018 9:53 AM

Speculating here, but it might be because of GoPro's draw back in advertising dollars and sponsorship of the events.

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I'm goin' off the rails on a crazy train

2/6/2018 9:54 AM

They were shit.

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2/6/2018 10:15 AM

RangerLee wrote:

I cant wait to see some top pros race each other in an all electric bike race, I want to hear the crap they shout at each other now that we will be able to hear it

MC used to panic rev and scream your name when he was behind you.

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2/6/2018 1:46 PM

What happened? I think GoPro is what happened. When GoPro took over the rights to MXGP and SX/MX the live cams stopped. I think GoPro never produced a camera that was good enough. IF you look at some of the GoPro live camera footage its actually the camera they used when we got the live footage. The screen (TV) showed the footage but had a GoPro logo on the screen even though it was shot with the previously used camera.
I may be wrong but i remember this thinking it was shit for the sport

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2/7/2018 1:54 AM

Richard Tease II wrote:

What happened? I think GoPro is what happened. When GoPro took over the rights to MXGP and SX/MX the live cams stopped. I think GoPro never produced a camera that was good enough. IF you look at some of the GoPro live camera footage its actually the camera they used when we got the live footage. The screen (TV) showed the footage but had a GoPro logo on the screen even though it was shot with the previously used camera.
I may be wrong but i remember this thinking it was shit for the sport

That's exactly what I thought. Which is a damn shame, as it was really cool to see the first turn rampage live in first person pespective. You could step into rider's shoes a little more that way.

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