What do yall think about dealer warranties?

Ted722
Profile picture for user Ted722
Posts
4486
Joined
9/21/2011
Location
Sacramento, CA US
Ted722 10/17/2017 9:37pm
10/17/2017 9:37pm Edited Date/Time 10/17/2017 9:38pm
Do they put an hour meter on the bike if you buy the warranty?
wfo4ever
Profile picture for user wfo4ever
Posts
789
Joined
8/3/2014
Location
NC US
wfo4ever 10/17/2017 9:48pm
10/17/2017 9:48pm
wfo4ever wrote:
One extra buck is the correct answer. Always ask questions first, this forum can help out a lot on all sorts of topics except women. That...
One extra buck is the correct answer. Always ask questions first, this forum can help out a lot on all sorts of topics except women. That would be impossible.
JW381 wrote:
I went down that road on this forum and ended up with a wife DizzyLaughing
gsxr6 wrote:
Lol.
I told ya. But hey you got a wife and you got a new bike, hopefully a 2-Stroke. How long will you wait to tell your wife about the new bike and finally bring it home from your buddy's garage. Do not mention the dealer warranty to her whatever you do. Teach your wife how to wash your bike, do your air filters, and get you beers while you are watching her. Let me know if you ever need any more advice. What kind of bike did you buy? Good luck!!!
wfo4ever
Profile picture for user wfo4ever
Posts
789
Joined
8/3/2014
Location
NC US
wfo4ever 10/17/2017 9:50pm
10/17/2017 9:50pm
Ted722 wrote:
Do they put an hour meter on the bike if you buy the warranty?
If you pay for the hour meter and the labor to install it, they will do it for free. That is how a warranty works.
Ted722
Profile picture for user Ted722
Posts
4486
Joined
9/21/2011
Location
Sacramento, CA US
Ted722 10/17/2017 9:57pm
10/17/2017 9:57pm
Ted722 wrote:
Do they put an hour meter on the bike if you buy the warranty?
wfo4ever wrote:
If you pay for the hour meter and the labor to install it, they will do it for free. That is how a warranty works.
Smile So, my '06 RMZ450 that had (6/06) the lower crank bearing fail (taking the crank, cylinder, oil pumps, etc.) with it would be covered at 32 hours? Or if the manual says you're supposed to swap the crank at 30 hours, you're SOL?!?

The Shop

See All »
Johnny Depp
Profile picture for user Johnny Depp
Posts
6438
Joined
10/16/2014
Location
Buda, TX US
Johnny Depp 10/18/2017 6:29am
10/18/2017 6:29am
Lots of fear mongering here. Cancellation and refund of the unused portion is covered by state laws in virtually every state. They have 30 days to give you a refund after filing a cancellation notice with the dealer. If you have a loan it must go to the lienholder.

Normal wear items are brake pads, batteries, tires, clutch plates and such. They will not cover a part not broken, so if your top end is knocking it isn't covered until it fails. Proper maintenance proof is generally not required, but if they open up your engine and its full of sludge our out of oil that's different. Failures directly due to modifications won't be covered, but it doesn't void everything.

GeorgiePorgie 10/18/2017 6:44am
10/18/2017 6:44am
craigathan404 wrote:
I bought a bike at MotoSport Hillsboro last year. I also bought the warranty. Haven’t had to use the warranty yet but I can also fix...
I bought a bike at MotoSport Hillsboro last year. I also bought the warranty. Haven’t had to use the warranty yet but I can also fix most things myself. That being said, I paid the extra 900 bucks for it because the price of a new engine for my bike is anywhere from $2500-$3000. At the end of the day maybe I wasted 900 but if my bike ever windows the case, I’ll just drop it off at the dealership on my way home from the track Laughing
JW381 wrote:
That was the mindset I had when I got it. It's so new and shiny and a few extra bucks to protect it ain't the worst...
That was the mindset I had when I got it. It's so new and shiny and a few extra bucks to protect it ain't the worst thing in the world. But how many extra bucks is too many bucks?
Dude drop the warranty. Sell the bike at 20 hours and get a new one....you made the initial investment. Now just get a new bike every year. Sell them before they're worth peanuts.
GeorgiePorgie 10/18/2017 6:47am
10/18/2017 6:47am
Buy a new bike for 7800 out the door. Sellnit in 20 hours for around 6000? Dig up $1800 and do it over again....(food for thought)
tprice07
Profile picture for user tprice07
Posts
2373
Joined
9/29/2009
Location
Fort Dodge, IA US
tprice07 10/18/2017 6:53am
10/18/2017 6:53am
Johnny Depp wrote:
Lots of fear mongering here. Cancellation and refund of the unused portion is covered by state laws in virtually every state. They have 30 days to...
Lots of fear mongering here. Cancellation and refund of the unused portion is covered by state laws in virtually every state. They have 30 days to give you a refund after filing a cancellation notice with the dealer. If you have a loan it must go to the lienholder.

Normal wear items are brake pads, batteries, tires, clutch plates and such. They will not cover a part not broken, so if your top end is knocking it isn't covered until it fails. Proper maintenance proof is generally not required, but if they open up your engine and its full of sludge our out of oil that's different. Failures directly due to modifications won't be covered, but it doesn't void everything.

Best advice right here.

Get the refund and bank the money for upgrades or future repairs.
oceantrav
Profile picture for user oceantrav
Posts
822
Joined
10/20/2015
Location
Tarpon Springs, FL US
oceantrav 10/18/2017 8:22am
10/18/2017 8:22am
Had a new kx65 with that third party warranty. Clutch basket broke all apart. Only had a few hours. Warranty considered it a wear item...smh

Had to pay $130 diagnostic fee to the dealer since the warranty didn’t cover it
kkawboy14
Profile picture for user kkawboy14
Posts
11494
Joined
6/5/2015
Location
TX US
kkawboy14 10/18/2017 10:54am
10/18/2017 10:54am Edited Date/Time 10/18/2017 10:54am
newmann wrote:
Paid cash or financed it in with the bike for 5 years at 27.99% through some off the wall finance company on the east coast? Boy...
Paid cash or financed it in with the bike for 5 years at 27.99% through some off the wall finance company on the east coast? Boy oh boy, some of the stuff I have seen bike shops push off on customers. How much was freight and dealer prep there? Always interested to see how much that varies.
JW381 wrote:
Msrp was 7499 plus 85 dmv fee. No prep fee. But I completely hear what you're saying. I'm definitely feeling a little suckered or naive...maybe. We'll...
Msrp was 7499 plus 85 dmv fee. No prep fee.

But I completely hear what you're saying. I'm definitely feeling a little suckered or naive...maybe. We'll see!
You shouldn’t feel suckered. If they are warranting a dirtbike for 5 years for $1500? That’s a great deal!
wfo4ever
Profile picture for user wfo4ever
Posts
789
Joined
8/3/2014
Location
NC US
wfo4ever 10/18/2017 2:27pm
10/18/2017 2:27pm
Any O.E.M. standard warranty on a motorcycle is only against manufacturer defects for a amount of time and/or miles on the motorcycle. Like 3 years or 12,000 miles whichever comes first is a good example. Most off road racing dirt bike do not have any warranty. it has been like this for years. A third party or dealer warranty is only designed to make the dealership or the 3rd party company money, period. It is a very bad buying decision for the customer as it is a total rip off and is worthless to you. You should read and understand all of the fine print on the contract, after reading it you should realize not to purchase this warranty. Remember from the very first time you ride your motorcycle everything is wearing and if it is not wearing it is being abused or not properly maintained as far as the warranty is concerned. Also you will have to always be bringing your bike in to the dealership to pay more money to have it serviced, and paying for labor and buying all the parts because it is required per the contract to keep your warranty valid at that dealership. Be sure to keep all of your receipts, even though it will not matter. Also how can you prove how much time is on your dirt bike? Speedometers can be replaced or disabled to alter the mileage, the same goes for hour meters too. You will never win the argument of how much time was on your bike between services. You should goggle the company or dealer too research the company and other customer reviews on their warranty. Call the company direct to have them answer any questions or concerns. If it is a dealership in house warranty ask to speak to the person in charge of the warranty dept. or ask to have the owner of the dealership explain to you how their warranty works. I bet the owner is not available or out of town. And last but not least call the Better Business Bureau to see how many complaints have they had against this company or dealership. When you get pissed off because they will not cover your problem and threaten to take them to court that will mean nothing. If a lawyer takes your case he or she is also just wanting your money like the dealership. They dealership or 3rd party should already have a legal team on retainer, if not they can buy the best lawyers. They will keep your case in court forever, and keep stalling just to make it cost you more in legal fees hoping you will just finally give up. If you pursue your case they will win because of all of the fine print on the contract you signed. How much are you willing to spend on that $1500.00 or whatever the amount you gave away when you bought your new bike. One last thing to always remember the dealership is the only one that will ever own your new bike. You will never own a new bike because it is a used bike as soon as you sign the papers and pay for it. You would be amazed what it is worth and you have not even rode it yet. Buy a good clean, well maintained used 2-Stroke. Buy all of your parts and accessories on line and that will save you a lot of money also, just be sure you read the fine print on their return policy.
wfo4ever
Profile picture for user wfo4ever
Posts
789
Joined
8/3/2014
Location
NC US
wfo4ever 10/18/2017 2:28pm
10/18/2017 2:28pm
JW381 What did you buy? Lets see some pics of your bike!!!
Falcon
Profile picture for user Falcon
Posts
10111
Joined
11/16/2011
Location
Menifee, CA US
Fantasy
798th
Falcon 10/18/2017 2:39pm
10/18/2017 2:39pm
Personally, I never buy extended warranties on anything. Here's my reasoning:

-If anything is going to break because of an actual defect, it is likely to happen right away. On a motocross bike, especially so. Most brands have no warranty on MX bikes, but they will give you some goodwill if the thing grenades after 30 minutes of operation.
-Warranties are big money makers for a reason. The amount of dollars they pay out in repairs is quite a bit less than the dollars they collect from the sale of warranties. Remember the dealer probably only paid $250-$500-$750 for that policy and the rest is profit for him. (OEM branded warranties may be a little different.)
-I'll take my chances and save the cash for later, just in case the bike/car/stereo breaks. So far with all the vehicles and crap I've purchased, I'm at least $20,000 ahead.
-I worked at a dealership as a finance manager and sold warranties, than watched as the service department wrestled with the warranty company to approve any kind of repair, even when it was clearly covered by the terms & conditions of the warranty. Later, I always had to wrestle with the warranty company to pay the claim that they had earlier (finally) approved.

I don't think extended warranties are worth the paper they are printed on. Get your money back as quickly as you can and use it for repairs later if necessary.
Johnny Depp
Profile picture for user Johnny Depp
Posts
6438
Joined
10/16/2014
Location
Buda, TX US
Johnny Depp 10/18/2017 2:59pm
10/18/2017 2:59pm
wfo4ever wrote:
Any O.E.M. standard warranty on a motorcycle is only against manufacturer defects for a amount of time and/or miles on the motorcycle. Like 3 years or...
Any O.E.M. standard warranty on a motorcycle is only against manufacturer defects for a amount of time and/or miles on the motorcycle. Like 3 years or 12,000 miles whichever comes first is a good example. Most off road racing dirt bike do not have any warranty. it has been like this for years. A third party or dealer warranty is only designed to make the dealership or the 3rd party company money, period. It is a very bad buying decision for the customer as it is a total rip off and is worthless to you. You should read and understand all of the fine print on the contract, after reading it you should realize not to purchase this warranty. Remember from the very first time you ride your motorcycle everything is wearing and if it is not wearing it is being abused or not properly maintained as far as the warranty is concerned. Also you will have to always be bringing your bike in to the dealership to pay more money to have it serviced, and paying for labor and buying all the parts because it is required per the contract to keep your warranty valid at that dealership. Be sure to keep all of your receipts, even though it will not matter. Also how can you prove how much time is on your dirt bike? Speedometers can be replaced or disabled to alter the mileage, the same goes for hour meters too. You will never win the argument of how much time was on your bike between services. You should goggle the company or dealer too research the company and other customer reviews on their warranty. Call the company direct to have them answer any questions or concerns. If it is a dealership in house warranty ask to speak to the person in charge of the warranty dept. or ask to have the owner of the dealership explain to you how their warranty works. I bet the owner is not available or out of town. And last but not least call the Better Business Bureau to see how many complaints have they had against this company or dealership. When you get pissed off because they will not cover your problem and threaten to take them to court that will mean nothing. If a lawyer takes your case he or she is also just wanting your money like the dealership. They dealership or 3rd party should already have a legal team on retainer, if not they can buy the best lawyers. They will keep your case in court forever, and keep stalling just to make it cost you more in legal fees hoping you will just finally give up. If you pursue your case they will win because of all of the fine print on the contract you signed. How much are you willing to spend on that $1500.00 or whatever the amount you gave away when you bought your new bike. One last thing to always remember the dealership is the only one that will ever own your new bike. You will never own a new bike because it is a used bike as soon as you sign the papers and pay for it. You would be amazed what it is worth and you have not even rode it yet. Buy a good clean, well maintained used 2-Stroke. Buy all of your parts and accessories on line and that will save you a lot of money also, just be sure you read the fine print on their return policy.
Hey Turbo, you might want to put the coffee down.
FreshTopEnd
Profile picture for user FreshTopEnd
Posts
12476
Joined
8/16/2006
Location
Sacramento, CA US
Fantasy
4231st
FreshTopEnd 10/18/2017 3:52pm
10/18/2017 3:52pm Edited Date/Time 10/18/2017 3:53pm
Like casino games, they are priced so that the house wins across all users, and you are out that amount of money that could go to an actual repair.

As I told the guy who tried to sell me one on our last car purchase, listing the parade of horribles that might happen, "you're talking me out of buying this car."

You're telling yourself its more likely than not the bike you bought is going to have a catastrophic failure, and thank you, you'll pay extra for that.
JW381
Profile picture for user JW381
Posts
10642
Joined
7/21/2009
Location
Harrisburg, OR US
JW381 10/18/2017 5:52pm
10/18/2017 5:52pm
I went ahead and cancelled it. A brand new 2 stroke should be aight!
wfo4ever
Profile picture for user wfo4ever
Posts
789
Joined
8/3/2014
Location
NC US
wfo4ever 10/19/2017 3:00am
10/19/2017 3:00am
wfo4ever wrote:
Any O.E.M. standard warranty on a motorcycle is only against manufacturer defects for a amount of time and/or miles on the motorcycle. Like 3 years or...
Any O.E.M. standard warranty on a motorcycle is only against manufacturer defects for a amount of time and/or miles on the motorcycle. Like 3 years or 12,000 miles whichever comes first is a good example. Most off road racing dirt bike do not have any warranty. it has been like this for years. A third party or dealer warranty is only designed to make the dealership or the 3rd party company money, period. It is a very bad buying decision for the customer as it is a total rip off and is worthless to you. You should read and understand all of the fine print on the contract, after reading it you should realize not to purchase this warranty. Remember from the very first time you ride your motorcycle everything is wearing and if it is not wearing it is being abused or not properly maintained as far as the warranty is concerned. Also you will have to always be bringing your bike in to the dealership to pay more money to have it serviced, and paying for labor and buying all the parts because it is required per the contract to keep your warranty valid at that dealership. Be sure to keep all of your receipts, even though it will not matter. Also how can you prove how much time is on your dirt bike? Speedometers can be replaced or disabled to alter the mileage, the same goes for hour meters too. You will never win the argument of how much time was on your bike between services. You should goggle the company or dealer too research the company and other customer reviews on their warranty. Call the company direct to have them answer any questions or concerns. If it is a dealership in house warranty ask to speak to the person in charge of the warranty dept. or ask to have the owner of the dealership explain to you how their warranty works. I bet the owner is not available or out of town. And last but not least call the Better Business Bureau to see how many complaints have they had against this company or dealership. When you get pissed off because they will not cover your problem and threaten to take them to court that will mean nothing. If a lawyer takes your case he or she is also just wanting your money like the dealership. They dealership or 3rd party should already have a legal team on retainer, if not they can buy the best lawyers. They will keep your case in court forever, and keep stalling just to make it cost you more in legal fees hoping you will just finally give up. If you pursue your case they will win because of all of the fine print on the contract you signed. How much are you willing to spend on that $1500.00 or whatever the amount you gave away when you bought your new bike. One last thing to always remember the dealership is the only one that will ever own your new bike. You will never own a new bike because it is a used bike as soon as you sign the papers and pay for it. You would be amazed what it is worth and you have not even rode it yet. Buy a good clean, well maintained used 2-Stroke. Buy all of your parts and accessories on line and that will save you a lot of money also, just be sure you read the fine print on their return policy.
Johnny Depp wrote:
Hey Turbo, you might want to put the coffee down.
Sorry about that Johnny Depp, you busted me. My entire family knows not to ever let me drink coffee. I have been wfo4ever since I was a kid. Back to water and short posts. And no P.U.I. (posting under the influence).

Pit Row

See All »
Frank Tuesday 10/19/2017 11:24am
10/19/2017 11:24am Edited Date/Time 10/19/2017 11:25am
They wouldn't offer it if they don't expect to profit from it.
Acidreamer
Profile picture for user Acidreamer
Posts
1794
Joined
8/25/2015
Location
Mansfield, OH US
Acidreamer 10/19/2017 11:27am
10/19/2017 11:27am
If bikes came with built in hour meters and one blew up before 30 hours, id expect some kind of warranty. Bikes the way they are now have no way of being tracked for hours. People have old ass bikes that look brand new.
peelout
Profile picture for user peelout
Posts
17872
Joined
1/6/2011
Location
Ogden, UT US
peelout 10/19/2017 11:36am
10/19/2017 11:36am
i had a "warranty" on my 2003 YZF250. about 33 hours in and the bottom end became a grenade and destroyed the motor. Yamaha dealer didn't do shit. paid to have it replaced by the same Yamaha dealer only for the same exact thing to happen within 4 hours. they didn't do shit about the 2nd blow up either.

besides a KTM, i wouldn't expect much out of new bike/dealer warranties.
GeorgiePorgie 10/19/2017 11:43am
10/19/2017 11:43am
JW381 wrote:
I went ahead and cancelled it. A brand new 2 stroke should be aight!
Why would you warranty a Yamaha ? That thing is bullet proof.

Post a reply to: What do yall think about dealer warranties?