What did the close points battle prove?

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5/2/2017 8:50am
That we need a chase format. The fans were screaming at the events, people excited, non-stop talk.

Just think if with 5 rounds left we had 5 guys that had a shot at the title. It would be insane.

I'd say a title chase was on it would be hard to go against Marvin. He's on fire right now.

BRING ON THE CHASE!!!!!!!!!!
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5/2/2017 8:56am
Please God not this again. The only reason it's exciting is because it's a REAL battle that developed over time. Not scripted WWE shit. Though I guess people scream for thatBlink
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it proved that a lot of Vitards show their true colors when their guy has misfortune or the other guy receives a little help from his team.

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I think since it was announced I've been on board with the chase and now that apparently everyone's cool with non title contenders giving up first place to a teammate, I think I'm more on board with chase.

If it was chase format we'd have three riders at least going for the championship and Marv wouldn't need to back off. Unless KTM starts hiring riders to literally Ricky bobby shake and bake for their star rider, I don't see how they could tell someone to not win their own championship themself.

If not chase, then like I've said before also, i freaking want more points for 1st place, or fastest lap of the main event. The hands down fastest rider should be rewarded the most. I just want to see more incentive to beat everyone or go the absolute fastest you can instead of managing a race and only turning it up when needed. Maybe 3 short main events IS the way to go. I don't care, I just want to see hard racing every weekend
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5/2/2017 9:41am Edited Date/Time 5/2/2017 9:44am
Everyone understands what a chase does. No one wants it.

You guys with the chase shit think if you just explain it enough times that we will all see the light.

WE FUCKIN GET IT!!!! A chase makes it more exciting. HERES WHAT YOU DONT GET.... it dilutes the purity of the sport.

Chase formats are the socialism of motorsports. They're a damn disgrace.

Feel free to start another sactioning body though and create your own Supercross series. You could call it the Meaningless Supercross Championship Championship and just hand out participation ribbons to everyone at the start gate. Hell, you vould just end each round right there at the gate. It could be a 22 way tie all the way through a season. That would be the most exciting, right? Plus no one would even get hurt or spend any money to run the bikes. You could fix every issue in pro moto with one move.
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People can take the chase format and stuff it.
It doesn't reward the consistent rider that may not be the fastest, but is the fastest on a regular basis AND on a variety of tracks, both good and bad.
Keep it like it is, where the champion is the one with the most points after all the rounds are done!
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peelout wrote:
it proved that a lot of Vitards show their true colors when their guy has misfortune or the other guy receives a little help from his...
it proved that a lot of Vitards show their true colors when their guy has misfortune or the other guy receives a little help from his team.
Peely swings...
It's way up there...going...going...
Gone!

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5/2/2017 10:09am
A chase format would mean Musquin would be in with a shot at the title?! Keep it!
What would be the achievement in winning that title? About the same as winning a WWE match...meaningless.
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What's a chase format?
It's only the dumbest idea in the history of the sport.
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peelout wrote:
it proved that a lot of Vitards show their true colors when their guy has misfortune or the other guy receives a little help from his...
it proved that a lot of Vitards show their true colors when their guy has misfortune or the other guy receives a little help from his team.
TeamGreen wrote:
Peely swings...
It's way up there...going...going...
Gone!

Home Run
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People are just fuckin bored with sx in general I thinkDry

Most exciting season in quite some time and look at the ass hurt about it. They need to change it up to a multi moto format. Like two 20 lap mains for 450's and 2 15 lap mains for 250's. It'll bring a lot more meaningful races and more points up for grabs. If you get one run away you get another shot for a good race the second moto. Do points for each moto like the outdoors. Double the chances to make up points if you have a mechanical or something. Outdoors is a lot more interesting because every gate drop Matters! Although I think the motos are to drawn out to keep things exciting but it's always been a test of fitness as well. They could even cut the tv slot down to two hours and maybe get more prime tv slots only airing the motos themselves and just show qualifying highlights before or something.

From the time the semis start till the 250f main event its just an hour long snooze fest for me. As a long time fan it's just boring as hell to watch semis and last chance qualifiers. To much meaningless racing.
Anyway. Thinking out loud. I love sx and mx. If it stays how it is I will always watch it anyway. Just would like to see more meaningful racing during a 3 hour tv show.

Watch any other sport. Pretty much the whole time during a game every play counts. As long as it's not a blow out you get 2-3 good hours of action. Not in sx. You get some heats which are pretty good cause all the heavy hitters are out there. Then on to the semis and lcq. You might catch a top guy in there. But it's a foregone conclusion if he is going to win it. Good time to go grab a beer and bullshit or go plug the wife Laughing
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Supercross needs a new points format because ET3 fell and took his sweet ass time to get up? Makes sense.

5/2/2017 12:21pm
What's a chase format?
Correct me if I am wrong guys, but it is where the leader puts a flag on and everyone chases him around the track trying to grab it off his waist. Pretty exciting stuff
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5/2/2017 12:36pm
Guys, it's okay. If Dungey retires after this season then you will get your wish of "any points format that keeps Ryan Dungey from winning the title."
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Katoomey wrote:
Everyone understands what a chase does. No one wants it. You guys with the chase shit think if you just explain it enough times that we...
Everyone understands what a chase does. No one wants it.

You guys with the chase shit think if you just explain it enough times that we will all see the light.

WE FUCKIN GET IT!!!! A chase makes it more exciting. HERES WHAT YOU DONT GET.... it dilutes the purity of the sport.

Chase formats are the socialism of motorsports. They're a damn disgrace.

Feel free to start another sactioning body though and create your own Supercross series. You could call it the Meaningless Supercross Championship Championship and just hand out participation ribbons to everyone at the start gate. Hell, you vould just end each round right there at the gate. It could be a 22 way tie all the way through a season. That would be the most exciting, right? Plus no one would even get hurt or spend any money to run the bikes. You could fix every issue in pro moto with one move.
No one....Wrong I do, Matthes does, probably any rider not 1st or 2nd does. Sure plenty of other fans would like it also.

Purity? Everything changes old timer.

Every MAJOR sports franchise does it. Regular season and then playoffs. Want to grow the sport maybe it's time to change.
5/2/2017 12:41pm
Madmax31 wrote:
No one....Wrong I do, Matthes does, probably any rider not 1st or 2nd does. Sure plenty of other fans would like it also. Purity? Everything changes...
No one....Wrong I do, Matthes does, probably any rider not 1st or 2nd does. Sure plenty of other fans would like it also.

Purity? Everything changes old timer.

Every MAJOR sports franchise does it. Regular season and then playoffs. Want to grow the sport maybe it's time to change.
Premier League soccer does not.

• No playoffs
• No salary cap
• No draft
• No nothing

And they buy and sell players for cash.

PLUS, they play all the season-ending games at the same time, because they fully expect teams to manipulate the results to the detriment of their hated rivals. They live in the real world.
5/2/2017 12:43pm
4rings wrote:
Supercross needs a new points format because ET3 fell and took his sweet ass time to get up? Makes sense.

No, you fail to see the point anyone who thinks the point system needs to be changed is making. Granted I do not think it's broken in anyway, everyone has an equal chance to get the same amount of points and whoever gets the most gets the title.

But what some people are saying is that with Eli going balls out and winning a bunch of races the season would be a runaway again and now that it is interesting the best guy is not going to have anything to show for it. I think people want to see more emphasis put on wins. Like I said I don't necessarily agree with this, but I think it's what some people are saying.
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5/2/2017 12:44pm
Madmax31 wrote:
That we need a chase format. The fans were screaming at the events, people excited, non-stop talk. Just think if with 5 rounds left we had...
That we need a chase format. The fans were screaming at the events, people excited, non-stop talk.

Just think if with 5 rounds left we had 5 guys that had a shot at the title. It would be insane.

I'd say a title chase was on it would be hard to go against Marvin. He's on fire right now.

BRING ON THE CHASE!!!!!!!!!!
I agree 100%!

Give it time and it will happen. After Eli clinches in round 12 next season look for it the following year
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Feint wrote:
Guys, it's okay. If Dungey retires after this season then you will get your wish of "any points format that keeps Ryan Dungey from winning the...
Guys, it's okay. If Dungey retires after this season then you will get your wish of "any points format that keeps Ryan Dungey from winning the title."
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Premier League soccer does not. • No playoffs • No salary cap • No draft • No nothing And they buy and sell players for cash...
Premier League soccer does not.

• No playoffs
• No salary cap
• No draft
• No nothing

And they buy and sell players for cash.

PLUS, they play all the season-ending games at the same time, because they fully expect teams to manipulate the results to the detriment of their hated rivals. They live in the real world.
Soccer...I was talking about real sports.
5/2/2017 1:42pm Edited Date/Time 5/2/2017 1:44pm
Madmax31 wrote:
Soccer...I was talking about real sports.
That's a weak reply. You brought up "major" sports leagues, not me. I think the Premier League is the third or fourth largest sports league in the world on revenue. A LOT bigger than, say, Supercross.
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Katoomey wrote:
Everyone understands what a chase does. No one wants it. You guys with the chase shit think if you just explain it enough times that we...
Everyone understands what a chase does. No one wants it.

You guys with the chase shit think if you just explain it enough times that we will all see the light.

WE FUCKIN GET IT!!!! A chase makes it more exciting. HERES WHAT YOU DONT GET.... it dilutes the purity of the sport.

Chase formats are the socialism of motorsports. They're a damn disgrace.

Feel free to start another sactioning body though and create your own Supercross series. You could call it the Meaningless Supercross Championship Championship and just hand out participation ribbons to everyone at the start gate. Hell, you vould just end each round right there at the gate. It could be a 22 way tie all the way through a season. That would be the most exciting, right? Plus no one would even get hurt or spend any money to run the bikes. You could fix every issue in pro moto with one move.
Socialism is a word that does not mean what you think it means.
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Fuck that trash
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Madmax31 wrote:
That we need a chase format. The fans were screaming at the events, people excited, non-stop talk. Just think if with 5 rounds left we had...
That we need a chase format. The fans were screaming at the events, people excited, non-stop talk.

Just think if with 5 rounds left we had 5 guys that had a shot at the title. It would be insane.

I'd say a title chase was on it would be hard to go against Marvin. He's on fire right now.

BRING ON THE CHASE!!!!!!!!!!
We have a chase system. It's 17 rounds long.


Thanks
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5/2/2017 4:08pm
Katoomey wrote:
Everyone understands what a chase does. No one wants it. You guys with the chase shit think if you just explain it enough times that we...
Everyone understands what a chase does. No one wants it.

You guys with the chase shit think if you just explain it enough times that we will all see the light.

WE FUCKIN GET IT!!!! A chase makes it more exciting. HERES WHAT YOU DONT GET.... it dilutes the purity of the sport.

Chase formats are the socialism of motorsports. They're a damn disgrace.

Feel free to start another sactioning body though and create your own Supercross series. You could call it the Meaningless Supercross Championship Championship and just hand out participation ribbons to everyone at the start gate. Hell, you vould just end each round right there at the gate. It could be a 22 way tie all the way through a season. That would be the most exciting, right? Plus no one would even get hurt or spend any money to run the bikes. You could fix every issue in pro moto with one move.
Drafts are also socialism because the weakest gets to pick first. Just saying
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5/2/2017 4:21pm
So basically the final 5 races should be more important than the first 12? No. That's stupid. Different track styles suit different riders. Every rider competes against everyone else over 17 races on a different variety of tracks and surfaces. What better way to crown a champion?
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5/2/2017 4:45pm
Katoomey wrote:
Everyone understands what a chase does. No one wants it. You guys with the chase shit think if you just explain it enough times that we...
Everyone understands what a chase does. No one wants it.

You guys with the chase shit think if you just explain it enough times that we will all see the light.

WE FUCKIN GET IT!!!! A chase makes it more exciting. HERES WHAT YOU DONT GET.... it dilutes the purity of the sport.

Chase formats are the socialism of motorsports. They're a damn disgrace.

Feel free to start another sactioning body though and create your own Supercross series. You could call it the Meaningless Supercross Championship Championship and just hand out participation ribbons to everyone at the start gate. Hell, you vould just end each round right there at the gate. It could be a 22 way tie all the way through a season. That would be the most exciting, right? Plus no one would even get hurt or spend any money to run the bikes. You could fix every issue in pro moto with one move.
Madmax31 wrote:
No one....Wrong I do, Matthes does, probably any rider not 1st or 2nd does. Sure plenty of other fans would like it also. Purity? Everything changes...
No one....Wrong I do, Matthes does, probably any rider not 1st or 2nd does. Sure plenty of other fans would like it also.

Purity? Everything changes old timer.

Every MAJOR sports franchise does it. Regular season and then playoffs. Want to grow the sport maybe it's time to change.
Nah, chase format sucks. A lot.
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5/2/2017 4:49pm
Katoomey wrote:
Everyone understands what a chase does. No one wants it. You guys with the chase shit think if you just explain it enough times that we...
Everyone understands what a chase does. No one wants it.

You guys with the chase shit think if you just explain it enough times that we will all see the light.

WE FUCKIN GET IT!!!! A chase makes it more exciting. HERES WHAT YOU DONT GET.... it dilutes the purity of the sport.

Chase formats are the socialism of motorsports. They're a damn disgrace.

Feel free to start another sactioning body though and create your own Supercross series. You could call it the Meaningless Supercross Championship Championship and just hand out participation ribbons to everyone at the start gate. Hell, you vould just end each round right there at the gate. It could be a 22 way tie all the way through a season. That would be the most exciting, right? Plus no one would even get hurt or spend any money to run the bikes. You could fix every issue in pro moto with one move.
Madmax31 wrote:
No one....Wrong I do, Matthes does, probably any rider not 1st or 2nd does. Sure plenty of other fans would like it also. Purity? Everything changes...
No one....Wrong I do, Matthes does, probably any rider not 1st or 2nd does. Sure plenty of other fans would like it also.

Purity? Everything changes old timer.

Every MAJOR sports franchise does it. Regular season and then playoffs. Want to grow the sport maybe it's time to change.
How well has the chase format worked out for NASCAR?

Who gives a fuck what Matthes wants, it's not like his opinion on the matter is any more relevant or useful than anybody elses.

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