What bike should I get for an old guy?

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10/19/2020 10:39 AM

I've gotten my twin 10 year old boys into dirt bikes and I need some advice on 250's. I like Yamaha's so I'm considering purchasing new, either a YZ250x or a YZ250FX, in the next few weeks. One of the mechanics at the local dealer suggested getting the 2T as it'll be easier to maintain and less costly in the long term. I'm not doing any racing at my age so that's a factor. Jetting the bike seems to be the only thing that I'd have to work with so it's not a big deal to me. On the other hand, the 4T is a more expensive bike upfront and the mechanic tells me it's a lot, and I mean a lot, more expensive to maintain and repair. I'm kind of torn on which to plunk down money on as all the old guys where we ride with the kids seems to all have gravitated toward 450's to carry all the extra weight they've gained over the years but I'm 170 lbs and a 450 just seems like overkill to me. Anyway, I'd like some advice on what you guys would recommend for me as all I'm doing is trail riding with the kids. I had a TTR230 that was okay but it sure didn't have a ton of power and a neighbor bought it for his daughter from me. All my dirt bike history is mainly RM250's from the 70's when I was a kid and raced. Thanks in advance.

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10/19/2020 10:41 AM

10 pages.

Buy what you can get looked after local.. if thats the Yamaha, they are decent bikes.

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10/19/2020 10:46 AM

The 2t is less expensive all the way around!
Are you just trail riding ? or are you going to the track? The yz250x is a awesome choice

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10/19/2020 10:47 AM

a stock yz250f that is lightly ridden by a vet rider will last a long time. i know for fact local fast kids abuse them and they still hold up after lots of moto-hours.

hes not wrong about the 250 2-stroke but like i said..if youre just a vet rider it doesnt make a difference, IMO

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10/19/2020 10:50 AM

500!

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10/19/2020 10:52 AM

DB505 wrote:

The 2t is less expensive all the way around!
Are you just trail riding ? or are you going to the track? The yz250x is a awesome choice

Mainly trail riding for now but tracks later as the kids get more experience.

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10/19/2020 11:01 AM

2-stroke. All-around great bike, fun to ride, cheap to maintain, and you won't need to do much to it anyway. My '06 has been basically bulletproof since '06. It has a lot of hours on it (a LOT of hours!)

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Braaapin' aint easy.

10/19/2020 11:03 AM

You said you're older...probably not riding the rev limiter much (or at all). A 4 stroke will last just as long as that 2t if not longer, especially if you are babying it the entire time. Go with the either one of those 4 stroke YZs. The electric start, EFI, and app are well worth the extra. The FX and X will be great for you.

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10/19/2020 11:09 AM

Yeah I'm 61 and had kids late in life. It's been a blessing having the little monsters and rekindled my love of dirt bikes again for sure. My wife thought I was nuts a few years ago when I got tickets to go watch the Supercross races in Arlington. She thought the kids would get bored. Now their having the time of their life every weekend.

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10/19/2020 11:15 AM
Edited Date/Time: 10/19/2020 11:15 AM

It’s a myth that modern 4 strokes are harder to maintain and more expensive in the long run

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10/19/2020 11:16 AM

Get the 4 stroke and change air filters and oil often. Will be all you need.

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10/19/2020 12:24 PM
Edited Date/Time: 10/19/2020 12:25 PM

Yes a two stroke might be easier to maintain if doing work on it yourself but I’d still go with the 250f. That electric start and powerband will be a lot easier and more fun if you’re getting back into it. I’ve had plenty of all those bikes and as much as i wanted to love the yz250 I just couldn’t.

If money isn’t a huge issue, I bought a ktm 250xc tpi and that has been the ticket for me. Super easy and linear power, e start, and fuel injected. It’s been my favorite bike by far and even the kickstand is damn useful. I ride Mx quite a bit but mostly ride in the woods but it does great everywhere. Idk exactly how much the 250f/Fx would be but my XC was $9k so probably a few hundred more but the resale is usually much better on the XC bikes.

Good luck and welcome back.

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10/19/2020 1:27 PM

Im 61 and just sold all my 2 strokes and Picked up a Yamaha YZ250FX
Awesome bike,,e-start,Fi,Kickstand nice power and easy to ride,fast or slow
I ride tracks and off road,I dont know if there is a better bike for what I do

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10/19/2020 1:47 PM

As much as I have an eternal love for the YZ250 2 stroke, I think I'd get the 4 Stroke if I were you.

As others have mentioned, unless you are revving it a lot (doesn't seem likely) you can get A LOT of hours out of a Yamaha 250f without major maintenance.

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10/19/2020 1:57 PM

Just my $0.02 but, check out The Dirt Bike Channel on YouTube. The guy gives pretty solid advice on the pros/cons of 2 stroke/4stroke and does test/reviews on many machines for trail use. Great videos and very informative. I became addicted to the channel during my Covid, laid off, stuck at home weeks.

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10/19/2020 2:15 PM

YZxxxFX, 250 or 450 you cant go wrong. My kid dumped his smoker and 450F for an FX because of the power delivery and a kickstand.

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10/19/2020 2:46 PM

A KTM or Husky 150, they are a blast to ride and sound great when ripping it.

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10/19/2020 2:49 PM
Edited Date/Time: 10/19/2020 2:51 PM

DB505 wrote:

The 2t is less expensive all the way around!
Are you just trail riding ? or are you going to the track? The yz250x is a awesome choice

Blackie59 wrote:

Mainly trail riding for now but tracks later as the kids get more experience.

Yz250x or yz250fx

Trail riding: 4 stroke will track better, if you change oil and air filters that bike will give you many many hours! They hold up.

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GP740
Since 1987

10/19/2020 2:51 PM

Duh. Get an RM250 from the 70s. Go racing with it, too. Relive that youth in full color.

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10/19/2020 2:56 PM

Dirty Points wrote:

Duh. Get an RM250 from the 70s. Go racing with it, too. Relive that youth in full color.

Or this.

Do this .

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10/19/2020 2:56 PM

Dirty Points wrote:

Duh. Get an RM250 from the 70s. Go racing with it, too. Relive that youth in full color.

If you’re interested in that route I know a guy with a slew of restored mint vintage Suzuki’s.....he peruses the board here.

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GP740
Since 1987

10/19/2020 3:02 PM

My kidneys said no to the RM250.

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10/19/2020 3:20 PM

Like others have said, if you keep clean oil and a clean well oiled air filter in it, modern 4 strokes are stone reliable. They came a long way very fast. I had the 07 Crf 250 that ate intake valves, and a 2010 Crf 450 that hasn't had a thing move in over 100 hours. Heard of lots of 250s getting well over 100 hours before even needing a valve adjustment. If you grenade it, yes it will cost more. But that's getting very rare. The 2 stroke will need a top end 2x over before you even need to check your valves.

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10/19/2020 3:35 PM

YZ250F.
Great bike.
More capabilities than 90% of can ever use. While being easy to ride.
Unless you put the air cleaner in incorrectly (and suck dirt) or neglect the oil changes, it will last forever. (For these reasons there is some risk in buying used.)

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10/19/2020 4:41 PM

People love the 250FX, there's only 1 for sale around me right now it's crazy.

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2019 TX300
'10 200 XC-w

10/19/2020 4:52 PM

You never mentioned your budget? You don't need much to follow kids.

Watched a Youtube on how Rock Wall got it's name. Giant conspiracy there. 21 miles of wall 7 stories deep.

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2015 Beta 500 RS, history: 99 KTM 300, 87 CR250, 84 KLR 600, 82 GPZ 550, 81 KX 250, 80 KX 250, 79 Montesa 414 VE, 78 250 VB, 77 360 VB, 76 360 VA, 75 YZ 125, 74 TM 125, 72 TS 125, 60's West Bend Go Boy Kart

10/19/2020 4:54 PM
Edited Date/Time: 10/19/2020 5:48 PM

The Yamaha WR-Fs are pretty amazing bikes. There's a YZ hiding inside, when you want it, by plugging in one of Yamaha's $150 "Competiton ECU" kits.
Bigger tank.
Kickstand.
Wider Ratio gear box.
Very "rider friendly" with ubber-smooth delivery from what is actually a YZ450 engine with a "nicer" power delivery.

The idea that a modern thumper is "more expensive" to maintain is based on "back in the day" when a Honda "Uni-Cam" and some other engines would eat their valves/seats/guides...etc. Those days are long gone.

The least expensive way to go riding with your boys...over-all...and for the money? A Suzuki RMZ 450 and an IMS off-road tank.

Good Luck!

Manny

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I ripped a start from Egypt and I was happy about that.

10/19/2020 5:19 PM

Johnny Depp wrote:

You never mentioned your budget? You don't need much to follow kids.

Watched a Youtube on how Rock Wall got it's name. Giant conspiracy there. 21 miles of wall 7 stories deep.

I'm looking at between $8500 to $10k for a new bike depending on where I buy it. Just across the border in Oklahoma most of the dealers don't screw you on freight and setup fees like they do in DFW.

My wife is a Rockwall native and you probably know more about the name than I do. I just know how to get home from work.

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10/19/2020 5:23 PM

Hcallz5 wrote:

People love the 250FX, there's only 1 for sale around me right now it's crazy.

Yep. I've got first dibs on a new 2021 from a dealer I've been talking to about the 250fx. He's got 250x's in stock right now if I want one. That's why I'm asking for advice.

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10/19/2020 5:40 PM

Not that I have rode it yet, but I have my eyes on the 250FX as well, posted about it a while back. After riding a few bikes, its seems like a perfect fit. I do have a friend to picked up a leftover XCF250 for less than the Yamaha, I rode that and its nice as well.

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