What 125 should I buy?

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3/22/2018 1:33 PM

Just sold my boat today and wanted to get a 125cc fun bike when It was finally sold. What bike should I look at with the approx. 1000-1800 budget. I was thinking a 99-04 yz or maybe a 01 and up rm 125. Seems like the pre-03 kxs were not that great and I really don't want a Honda. Would buy one if it was the right deal but usually they are way too high priced. Not looking to race but just play on some.

With the 125 I bought a 95 rm 125 last summer for 800 bucks it was pretty roached. Rode it once and thought I may blow it up or something and thought it was a little too beat to put money into so I sold it for what I bought it for. Had a blast but it seemed slow almost too slow, it seemed about half the power of a 250f. I see kids on new 125s doing jumps that I just know that bike would never get over. Is a old 125 that much different from the newer ones? With a rebuild top end and correct jetting should it be close to say a new yz 125?

Thanks guys

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3/22/2018 1:40 PM

Brand doesn't really matter if that's your budget. Try to find the one that has been maintained properly and that's in the best overall condition.

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3/22/2018 1:43 PM

My Plan is to tear it all down and go over all of it. Probably in my price range they will all be roached. Yamaha seemed to win the shootouts at that time I think.

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3/22/2018 1:44 PM

I don't think a 99-04 YZ would be all that different compared to a new one. 125's are slow so you have to carry your momentum in order to keep your speed up. I think the YZ would be a good option. I'm sure somebody can chime in on what specific year models to look at. The 2001 RM had known transmission issues I believe. That was my first 125 as a kid and we had to split the cases on it at least once and, again, I think that was a known issue on that specific year.

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3/22/2018 1:53 PM

Thanks yeah I like the steel frame yamahas. The RM would be nice because I have a 03 Rm 250 and have some extra parts for it that would swap over but that's not a huge deal. I think get a yz and go over it replace some stuff and go rip it.

I know 125s are slow I rode them a lot as a kid but this one seemed really freaking slow. They are so much fun I feel like I need one.

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3/22/2018 2:04 PM
Edited Date/Time: 3/22/2018 2:06 PM

The 99-04 YZ's are pretty quick. They don't have as wide of a powerband as the newer ones, but when I've ridden both of them back to back, the older model feels like it has more top-end. The newer ones are easier to keep on the pipe though, and feels like it rev's a little quicker.

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3/22/2018 2:06 PM

That's cool, yeah I don't want to sink the kind of money into this that the 05 and up bring where I'm at. Good to know they are close. Top end is good because at my elevation I am down on power.

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3/22/2018 4:38 PM

1980 cr125 great bike can race in vintage also ...

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3/22/2018 4:43 PM

Not a Ttr or crf or drz

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3/22/2018 4:44 PM

99 cr125. I have one so its the best

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3/22/2018 4:51 PM

magoo1982 wrote:

1980 cr125 great bike can race in vintage also ...

BOOM!

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I ripped a start from Egypt and I was happy about that.

3/22/2018 5:09 PM

The nicest YZ you can find in your price range.

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Tomac and/or Anderson for 2020.....

3/22/2018 5:26 PM

2015 and up ktm or husky... no wait...they will have transmission issues. Older CR or rm.. be different

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3/22/2018 6:00 PM
Edited Date/Time: 3/22/2018 6:02 PM

I'm just south of you on I-25 and I bought an '02 RM 134 last fall for $1800. It ran good but needed some work to get to my standard. All done, though, I have $2400 in it with fresh suspension, fresh top end, everything cleaned and greased, 2 new air filters, new bars, grips, tires, brakes, chain/sprocket. NOW it's ready to ride.

We also have an '03 KX125 that we paid $1800 for from a guy in Pueblo. It had a decent top end, but I replaced it anyway. Same new stuff as the RM and now it's ready to ride.

There is a guy in Kiowa who rebuilds bikes and sells them for decent prices- you might check him out. R&S Cycles or something like that.

As for the bikes.... I've had '01, '04, '05 KX125's. The '01 had a great motor, was a little squatty in the rear. The '05 had nice handling and suspension, but was a little flat with not much "kick" even after being turned into a 144. Even so, it was my favorite bike until I got the RM. The '04 is pretty much like the '05 except for the lack of high speed compression on the shock.

The '02 RM is really fun. Superb turning and with the adjustable exhaust valve I can tune for an actual low end kick.

Had an '04 KTM 125SX for a few months, back in '06 or 07.. GREAT motor, but the shrouds caught my boots, the rear fender was straight and hard to clean when getting on/off, and mine had the infamous countershaft sprocket crack. It also vibrated a lot and I think the frame was twisted a little because the pipe never lined up right. It needed about $1000 worth of work so I sold in and bought a new '04 YZ450F.

I haven't had a YZ125, but I have had a YZ250. Every Yamaha I've owned has kicked the rear end at one point or another and tossed me on the ground. Plus, I'm short and they're tall. I liked almost everything about the bike- handling, suspension, motor, quality, etc- except for the fact that they have all- YZ250, YZ250WR, YZ450F- kicked me off.

Of these, the RM 125/134 is my favorite, followed by the '05/04 KX125. I like the RM so much that I just sold my '16 KX250F.

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3/22/2018 8:16 PM

Thanks guys for all the help. I will be keeping my eye out for a good yz but other bike brands if a good deal comes up

High plains squid im sending you a pm. Let me know if you dont get it.

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3/22/2018 8:33 PM

'02-'04 YZ 125.

Had an '04 YZ 125 and it's still one of my favorite bikes I've ever had. Put the newer style plastic on it to modernize it if you want and you'll have a great bike.

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"Sorry Goose, but it's time to buzz the tower."

3/22/2018 8:47 PM

magoo1982 wrote:

1980 cr125 great bike can race in vintage also ...

X2 this bike rips!!!!
Photo

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3/22/2018 9:51 PM

-MAVERICK- wrote:

'02-'04 YZ 125.

Had an '04 YZ 125 and it's still one of my favorite bikes I've ever had. Put the newer style plastic on it to modernize it if you want and you'll have a great bike.

This.

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3/23/2018 2:20 AM

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3/23/2018 3:25 AM

A blue one

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2011 Yamaha YZ 250 -MX
1996 Yamaha Banshee 350 -Trails
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2005 Pontiac GTO -451rwhp

3/23/2018 6:14 AM

Thanks guys for the suggestions. Going to keep my eye out and see what comes up.

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3/23/2018 6:56 AM

Like everyone previously mentioned any post 1995 Yamaha will make a great bike. I would look for a 2002 - 2004, the 2004 I felt had better suspension than previous years.

As for your experience on the 1995 RM, 125s are slow as is and if you throw in a little clutch slip, rich jetting, chipped reeds, or any other host of issues it will feel slower than a turd. The people you see hitting big jumps are fully committed on bikes that don't have issues.

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3/23/2018 7:21 AM

I rode 04 YZ125, 2013 SX125 and 05 RM125 just recently. All were in pretty good shape. I took the yellow one home, and couldn't be happier. Feels very light and nimble, simply awesome. I am a little biased towards the yellow, so there's that.

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3/23/2018 7:52 AM

Thanks guys for the sugustions, Ideal bike would be 96-97 yz with the navy plastic but that stuff is hard to find and I would be pissed if I messed it up or something so want to sick away from that.

Seems like around here 02+ rms ppl want a lot of money for. The yamahas seem to be the cheapest.

I do know my 95 rm had a clutch issue where it would not engage the clutch fully. I think it was a worn inner hub because I filed down the outer backed some.

The thing was clapped my goal is to get a less clapped one to play on.

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3/24/2018 1:07 AM

BobPA wrote:

The nicest YZ you can find in your price range.

Solid advice.

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3/24/2018 2:13 AM

lcgordon711 wrote:

My Plan is to tear it all down and go over all of it. Probably in my price range they will all be roached. Yamaha seemed to win the shootouts at that time I think.

If youre going for a Suzuki, get a '04 or newer. The '04 had a longer crank and was a better bike then the '01-'03.

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3/24/2018 5:14 AM

magoo1982 wrote:

1980 cr125 great bike can race in vintage also ...

CRFracer117 wrote:

X2 this bike rips!!!!
Photo

What a BEAUTY!

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3/24/2018 6:03 AM

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3/24/2018 6:28 AM

Kmc440 those two bikes I have actually been looking at. Leaning towards the top one if I could get it for 14-1500 or so. I don’t like the new style plastics. Or I should say I just don’t want it. I have a new style bike would rather keep it original looking. Think I may go check it out this weekend.

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3/24/2018 7:22 AM
Edited Date/Time: 3/24/2018 7:24 AM

TJMX947 wrote:

Like everyone previously mentioned any post 1995 Yamaha will make a great bike. I would look for a 2002 - 2004, the 2004 I felt had better suspension than previous years.

As for your experience on the 1995 RM, 125s are slow as is and if you throw in a little clutch slip, rich jetting, chipped reeds, or any other host of issues it will feel slower than a turd. The people you see hitting big jumps are fully committed on bikes that don't have issues.

Agree on the last sentence. With any kind of budget, I'd be super cautious about hitting ANY big jumps. You need to have enough left-over to pay your insurance out-of-pocket.

I know this because in '16, I bought a brand-new '16 KX250F and went riding. Second ride, I decided to jump a double on the track. First jump, cleared it by 10'. Second jump, landed it perfectly. Same on the 3rd. Fourth jump..... instant 3-piece collarbone and no recollection of anything for the past week. $7000 out of pocket for a plate and screws. Down for 12 weeks!!! Which hurts because I'm self-employed, so add that income loss into the equation, too. I could afford the bike. Paying for it twice (the bike, plus insurance), plus income loss is what stung.

Worst part of it is that my helmet cam malfunctioned and I don't have a clue as to what happened. Honestly, I was clearing that jump _easily_. Until I didn't. Had I been on a 125, I would've never done that jump in the first place.

So, all I'm saying is that no way would I buy a 125 on a budget and think about clearing big jumps. I'd be thinking more along the lines of smelling two stroke smoke and listening to the motor sing.

That's my grandfatherly advice for the day.

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2019 KTM 150 SX
2019 Husqvarna TX300
2015 Yamaha YZ 250