Waffles on FB

racerx217
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11/25/2020 2:17pm
First off why are they called waffles and not a raffles?
Second serious question here to the guys that are doing multiple ones. What do you do with the 1099 that you get at the end of the year from paypal?
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11/25/2020 2:19pm Edited Date/Time 11/25/2020 2:20pm
Because they’re illegal. And Facebook pulls down raffle. So people say waffle so they won’t pull it down.

All fun n games till the tax man shows up.
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11/25/2020 2:23pm
Anything that requires sending money via friends and family is usually a bad idea.

I thought it would be cool to do something similar, but for charity.
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11/25/2020 2:50pm
These are good for a week or two before they get busted
racerx217
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All valid points but what I am asking. Say you raffle a mini bike. You buy it new for $2500 and raffle off and make $1500 profit. Do it a few times then you get a 1099 for $12000 from paypal. Then you pay capital gains on $12k and wind up loosing money...? I just dont get the math on this and how you can turn a profit when you cant write off the cost of the product, which you cant do because you took all the money via friends and family. Who knows maybe I am way off point on this one.
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11/25/2020 3:58pm
You can still make a profit, but I'm guessing most guys doing this aren't motivated to file an extra set of paperwork with their taxes. Look at how many people refuse to even title their bike! But yes, you can make a profit, but at the end of the year instead of pocketing $10,000 (imaginary number) now you pocket $7500 (ish) and have to file taxes properly, like use an accountant or stop by a tax place in a strip mall.
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racerx217
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11/25/2020 5:03pm
silver753 wrote:
You can still make a profit, but I'm guessing most guys doing this aren't motivated to file an extra set of paperwork with their taxes. Look...
You can still make a profit, but I'm guessing most guys doing this aren't motivated to file an extra set of paperwork with their taxes. Look at how many people refuse to even title their bike! But yes, you can make a profit, but at the end of the year instead of pocketing $10,000 (imaginary number) now you pocket $7500 (ish) and have to file taxes properly, like use an accountant or stop by a tax place in a strip mall.
If you do more than 10K in incoming transactions via any cash or credit card app you get a 1099, you cannot simply not file a 1099 with your taxes. That will catch up with you pretty quickly.
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11/26/2020 10:35pm
silver753 wrote:
You can still make a profit, but I'm guessing most guys doing this aren't motivated to file an extra set of paperwork with their taxes. Look...
You can still make a profit, but I'm guessing most guys doing this aren't motivated to file an extra set of paperwork with their taxes. Look at how many people refuse to even title their bike! But yes, you can make a profit, but at the end of the year instead of pocketing $10,000 (imaginary number) now you pocket $7500 (ish) and have to file taxes properly, like use an accountant or stop by a tax place in a strip mall.
racerx217 wrote:
If you do more than 10K in incoming transactions via any cash or credit card app you get a 1099, you cannot simply not file a...
If you do more than 10K in incoming transactions via any cash or credit card app you get a 1099, you cannot simply not file a 1099 with your taxes. That will catch up with you pretty quickly.
Yes, you are correct. But if you didn't file any claimed income, they'll catch you in a year or two then garnish your wages.
11/27/2020 5:17am
I’ve always wondered how many people just pick their friends as a winner and split the cash.
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EngIceDave
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11/27/2020 5:25am
Running a Legal Raffle in the United States
In the United States, raffles (as well as lotteries and other forms of gambling) are controlled by a combination of state and federal law. That means that whether you're able to run a raffle, and what you have to do to ensure that raffle meets all legal requirements, varies depending on where you are located.



https://www.thebalanceeveryday.com/raffle-laws-in-the-us-and-canada-run….
EngIceDave
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11/27/2020 5:27am
I know this because we ran into some issues with a raffle at the track I worked at long ago
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11/27/2020 8:50am
Highly, highly illegal unless properly registered with the state.

Otherwise, there is no mechanism to stop the seller from just giving the bike to their buddy. Or not giving it away at all, and pocketing the cash.

Everyone would sell their shit via raffle, or "waffle" if this wasn't the case.

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