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Maybe an old thread..but really...What is the real use for 450s if 250s are equal or faster in both motocross and supercross?
Add to that the factor that half the 450 riders for some strange reason are getting injured and that many MX/SX enthusiasts like me enjoy the 250s intensity much more.
Maybe 350s is an option? 250 stock and modified? Hell I dont know but something is not right....Just IMO.
Add to that the factor that half the 450 riders for some strange reason are getting injured and that many MX/SX enthusiasts like me enjoy the 250s intensity much more.
Maybe 350s is an option? 250 stock and modified? Hell I dont know but something is not right....Just IMO.
The point of a Big Fat Pig 450 is to idle around a track.
And to sell said Big Fat Pig to the ever increasing overweight MX rider.
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Johnny O smoked all the 250cc and 500cc at what the 84 or 86 MXDN?
give it a rest people, quit being so pussified with everything!!!!
The Shop
HA!
Way to cute to be a BFP 450!
ACTUALLY is that Barcia, Roczen, Tomack and Bagget at the finish line?
And which is which?
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All they can change is:
-Handle bar controls
-Foot pegs (height)
-Tires
But the huge problem is Money. Now the Brand of bike will have to supply parts. No more money and free parts from aftermarket parts.
they aren't.
I'm all for keeping the 450s because there are some guys who would be at a serious disadvantage otherwise due to their size. I have no doubt that Davi Millsaps can haul on a 250, just as Ken De Dycker could in Europe. But those guys and people like them would feel a noticeable hindrance from their size on the smaller displacement bike.
The 450 class is a great equalizer for the smaller teams and privateer because it's a class where horse power isn't so much of a factor. Yes OK, a top 250 rider can apparently beat a top 450 rider with much less HP. But a 450 is heavier, it's harder to muscle around, harder to brake and get stopped up the inside of a corner etc. If you're a privateer in the 250f class or as I said, a rider on one of the smaller teams - it's VERY difficult racing against the faster 250fs where, against each other with none of the weight and handling disadvantages.... horse power is a huge factor.
Currently I wish the TV footage was of places 9 backwards as clearly that is where the action must be, nothing much happening @ the front.
What would quick really add to the mix is bringing back a pro open class where nitro and turbos are added to the mix.
Pit Row
Plus the manufacturers and aftermarket parts would be delighted I would guess
But really it's always been that way to a certain extent with the smaller capacity bikes. It doesn't mean a rider can't overcome a lack of stellar equipment, it just means it's tougher. It's harder to make your CRF 250 competitive with say, what Justin Barcia rides, than it is starting with a stock KXF 450 and what Villopoto is riding.
However that's only a part of the story. By it's nature Motocross/Supercoss has and will continue to become more and more exclusive the more and more "Professional" it becomes. That can't really be helped. Not saying it's a good thing.
But other buyer is trail riders. Buy mx bikes and ride them on the trails. There are enduro riders that convert mx to trails.
For heavier vets and senior, people at high altitude (in Colorado you lose 15-20 percent horsepower,) the extra power is desired, they are more durable because they are not as highly strung or trying to eek out every ounce of performance out of them. There is a place for them, just like there was a place for 500 2 strokes, which were good desert machines. But they are gone because of AMA and Manufacturers, but mostly people did not choose them. When people stop choosing 450s as a bike to ride, they will go away but for me I will only purchase a 450.
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