Vital MX Poll: Should Chad Reed Receive a Penalty?

4/1/2017 8:37 PM
Edited Date/Time: 4/1/2017 11:02 PM

Lots of discussion going on...you can share your opinion here but we also have a poll question "Do you rank Chad Reed's blocking/holding up of Ryan Dungey tonight a bad enough offense to receive a penalty?"

AMA Rulebook section on the blueflag is below the poll.

Should Chad Reed Receive a Penalty for Holding up Ryan Dungey?

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From the AMA Rulebook:
4.17 Flags and Lights
It is the rider’s responsibility to be aware of their surroundings
at all times while on track. Safety is a main priority and the
riders must obey all official signals and directions given to
them. Any rider failing to do so may be penalized.
a. Solid Blue Flag:
1. Indicates you are about to be overtaken by faster riders.
2. When conditions allow, move out of the fast line.
3. Hold your line (don’t ride erratically) and do not impede the
faster riders progress.
4. Riders disregarding the blue flag may be black-flagged at
the discretion of Race Director.



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4/1/2017 8:38 PM

Oh boy. This'll be interesting.

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4/1/2017 8:39 PM

Nah, just retire.

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4/1/2017 8:42 PM
Edited Date/Time: 4/1/2017 8:42 PM

St Ann More wrote:

Nah, just retire.

Forced to retire as a penalty? I'm down with that.

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4/1/2017 8:42 PM

Either Reed gets a major penalty or get rid of the blue flag. What an ass.

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4/1/2017 8:42 PM

No. But he ruined a good race.

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4/1/2017 8:48 PM

Yes and a kick in the nut sack.

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4/1/2017 8:50 PM

I agree with whatever option gets the most votes

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4/1/2017 8:50 PM

No penalty
Just a huge loss of respect
Dick move

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4/1/2017 8:50 PM

Rules state to move out of the fast line. He didn't after numerous blue flags. Penalty no doubt.

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4/1/2017 8:51 PM

Dungey calls chad names on world wide tv and reed is the bad guy. Dungey opened a can of worms he couldnt handle. Simple as that

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4/1/2017 8:52 PM

AMA/FIM/Feld will go right down the middle and say Reed is now on the famous Friese-super-double-probation.

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4/1/2017 8:52 PM

Money or points won't make a bit of difference. Park him through Vegas, this coming from one of the biggest Reed fans here for the last 15 years(lost quite a bit of respect for him tonight). Total dick move, you don't get in the middle of a title fight now matter how much of a whiner Dungey was being.

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4/1/2017 8:53 PM

Lost all respect for Reed when he jacked up an auction for St Jude with that KX250. He's a dick.

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4/1/2017 8:53 PM

You think Reed cares? No way especially after what Ryan said after the heat.

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4/1/2017 8:53 PM

Dungey learnt a lesson tonight, keep your mouth shut

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4/1/2017 8:53 PM

I voted no, but it was a dick move for sure. I just don't think it warrants a penalty.

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4/1/2017 8:53 PM

sparker245 wrote:

Either Reed gets a major penalty or get rid of the blue flag. What an ass.

totally uncalled for, what respect I had for him just got tainted for sure!!

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4/1/2017 8:55 PM

wwoberg wrote:

Lost all respect for Reed when he jacked up an auction for St Jude with that KX250. He's a dick.

Never heard this. Can you elaborate?

Back on point. That was super shitty. My guess is he got wind of what Dungey said after the heat and that was his way of getting back at him.

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4/1/2017 8:58 PM

He did hold his line.

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4/1/2017 8:59 PM

Acidreamer wrote:

Dungey calls chad names on world wide tv and reed is the bad guy. Dungey opened a can of worms he couldnt handle. Simple as that

If that would have fired up Reed and caused him to battle for a podium spot, I'd have been all for it. Ignoring blue flags when you're in 16th? That's a 'I may suck, but I'll still stick it to you as I fade to irrelevance' move. He one upped James's messing up a race while getting lapped move for sure.

The penalty should be like Craig's last week - last pick for the main, regardless of how the day goes to that point. And an immediate black flag if he ignores the blue flag again.

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4/1/2017 9:00 PM

I said no, not because I didn't think what he did was wrong, but because the penalty is outlined in the rules as black flagged during the race at the discretion of the race director. We shouldn't be imposing penalties that aren't already laid out in the rulebook. The time to penalize him was during the race.

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4/1/2017 9:00 PM

I hate to say it because Reed was clearly in the wrong but all Dungey did was follow him, he did nothing to help the situation.

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4/1/2017 9:01 PM

RandyS wrote:

Money or points won't make a bit of difference. Park him through Vegas, this coming from one of the biggest Reed fans here for the last 15 years(lost quite a bit of respect for him tonight). Total dick move, you don't get in the middle of a title fight now matter how much of a whiner Dungey was being.

Not a bad idea. I've been a big Reed fan in the past. If a rider had done that to him, he'd of been screaming at them, commented on the podium, and blown up the twittesphere. He's old enough to know better.

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4/1/2017 9:01 PM

Acidreamer wrote:

Dungey calls chad names on world wide tv and reed is the bad guy. Dungey opened a can of worms he couldnt handle. Simple as that

ACBraap wrote:

If that would have fired up Reed and caused him to battle for a podium spot, I'd have been all for it. Ignoring blue flags when you're in 16th? That's a 'I may suck, but I'll still stick it to you as I fade to irrelevance' move. He one upped James's messing up a race while getting lapped move for sure.

The penalty should be like Craig's last week - last pick for the main, regardless of how the day goes to that point. And an immediate black flag if he ignores the blue flag again.

Reed held his line to allow dungey to pass. Wheres the wrong? dungey just didnt make it happen

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4/1/2017 9:02 PM

Sport has a ton of problems. No clear solution to lapping is one.

A joker lane that is FASTER is certainly one solution...

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4/1/2017 9:03 PM

Acidreamer wrote:

Reed held his line to allow dungey to pass. Wheres the wrong? dungey just didnt make it happen

In one argument, the rule also states to not impede the progress of the rider lapping you...amongst other sub-articles that have similar lingo related to the progress of the rider passing, along with a comment about moving out of the way when in a safe spot.

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4/1/2017 9:03 PM



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4/1/2017 9:03 PM
Edited Date/Time: 4/1/2017 9:26 PM

Acidreamer wrote:

Dungey calls chad names on world wide tv and reed is the bad guy. Dungey opened a can of worms he couldnt handle. Simple as that

Absolutely. Rewind of 1986 Anaheim supercross. Reed is Burnworth, Dungey is Johnson, Tomas is Bailey. Paybacks a beyotch.
30:22 Johnson takes out Burnworth
36 Burnworth impedes Johnson as he is being lapped. Bailey catches Johnson

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4/1/2017 9:03 PM

Video please didn't see race

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