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" Weston got completely fucked over last night!!!! "
I'm actually still in shock over those stupid fuckers at the FIM.......how in the hell can you use a visual.......when the transponder does it's job just fine??
Seriously...........that is EXACTLY like typing up a math problem on a calculator....reading it.....and then disagreeing with it!
Fucking stupid. Feel terrible for Weston and I bet his dad aint to happy either. Would you?
Edit : Wait......I haven't read all the way through this thread yet.....so maybe there is someone dumb enough to fall for it.
Maybe it's a sport/hobby to you but I believe it's called "Professional Racing" and they should be grateful that it pays anything? Your ignorance is shining brightly.
But a "visual override" comes out on top as the worst decision ever by the FIM/AMA/Feld/MXA/Lechien/Lawrence/Emig and everyone else that has ever made a bad decision in this sport.
That is just some crazy ass shit.
The Shop
Your first question : Weston and Lou are a team........when Weston does bad....the team does bad correct? Lou is part of the team correct?
See what I mean......stupid question. And BTW.....99% of the other guys in this thread agree with Lou.....Weston got screwed.
If we're going to go back to visual scoring, fine. do that.
By the way, doesn't the AMA (and also FIM) rulebook state that the official finish line is actually where the finish line flagger stands? It used to be so.
If transponders are to be used for qualifying, this "visual override" bullshit just made the transponders obsolete.
funny thing. they aren't perfect either. I am sure the official who made this decision did it because he liked the shitstorm that he knew that will follow. I am sure the score people who work that tower was out to "get someone".
No one in here can maybe give these people the benefit of the doubt and think that maybe they did it because they believed it was right and just thing to do?
Blaming all the letters in the alphabet will make it "justified" that this was wrong and bullshit. It has to be then since it's their fault.
I sit here and read all these pages of stuff and it's no wonder this sport is where it's at.
I think if i was referee of this race I would have allowed both to transfer, But then I am sure that would have pissed off the guy who gets beat at the end of the season for 14th overall by one point.
The sport is where its at cause the AMA is in charge. They can't even get the class name right. Over ruling a computer? Why use transponders at all if your not going to trust them? Pathetic.
Pit Row
Also.....please explain to me how a transponder(s) would of malfunctioned in this very instance. They were recorded at being .0002 sec apart......and some how a "human" said that it didn't matter.
Soo.....the transponder sends signals like radio waves and can record stuff down to .0001 ( actually much smaller than that.....just an example ) .......that seems to be pretty efficient to me. A human CAN NOT in any remote way even come close to seeing or recording things that fast.
And yeah.....my opinion doesn't mean shit.....and neither does anyone elses on this site.....but I'll be damned to change my mind on this unless I see a photo of it.
ALSO.......in the past 15 years or so....do you know how many block passes have been put on guys in the final corner at THE BASE of the finish line jump? I have seen quite a few in the past few years.......and NOT ONCE has the ruling EVER said that the finish line was at the base of the jump........not the top!
IF that is the case......and the riders know that the actual finish line is at the base......be prepared for some full on take out moves in that final corner.......and don't worry about getting up to the finish line flag.
BTW.........what the hell is the finish line doing on the track about 20' BEFORE the flagger?
I bet not one person , not from one race EVER can come in here and prove me wrong on this. Please show me where this exact same thing has happened where they threw the transponder reading out the window.
Faith's team has much more industry connections and am sure more vocal to the AMA about getting their riders in the main. Weston is a true privateer, with little industry connections, hence not much pull with the AMA.
Weston got a raw deal from the AMA at Dallas, but he is proving to be a solid SX racer against a very deep field. I bet he pushes harder next time to have a bigger cushion from third place in an LCQ.
Race One . . . Weston!
Bet Go pro would even sponsor said camera's if it's a cost factor!
I assume all Heat/LCQ/Mains from now on will be decided by a guy at the base of the finish line jump.
If one transponder stays straight on the mount and the other one vibrates and turns backwards on the tube during the race then that will create a difference in time across the finish for 2 riders crossing the loop at the same time.
0.002 could easily be the difference in that scenario.
As Wardy said they are an excellent tool but they aren't the end all be all.
RD was close, but Trey had him at the bottom and the Top.
https://youtu.be/qEC7vzlB-b4
Now, before you go being a dick about what I just said, again I was at the race. I thought Weston got the last transfer spot. Gavin made one hell of a move in the last turn, but I still thought Weston got the spot. It was very confusing when Irv started announcing and they start from the last qualifying rider and he announced Gavin. It wasn't until after the race, back in the pits, that we found out it was a visual override. Since the "Official Scorers" sit on the scaffolding right at the finish line jump, closer to the track than anyone, they saw something we didn't. It sucks for Weston, because like I said, IMO it looked like he got the spot to me and the transponders said he did by .002.
I'm not sure how you can override something that happened faster than a blink of an eye, but it did. If I was the head official, I would've given both riders a spot in the main.
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