RV2 at Vero (Corse)

2/24/2015 12:01pm
Talking about Searle, I believe its gonna be a good year for him if don't get injured. I mean, he was awesome on a 250, and wasn't that good on the big bike (didn't have that same speed he had on the smaller bike but still consistent I believe). Going to KTM red bull was the best move he could have hoped for I think. He got a 350 now, full factory bike, who should suit him better than any 450. I believe he's gonna be better than the last few seasons because his new KTM look more like his formal 250 than the 450 he had the last 2 seasons.
2/24/2015 12:08pm
27 why America was 110v last time I checked
Outsider wrote:
Our commercial/industrial lighting is 277v. Back on topic, please hang around till the season gets underway, I want to see what you have to say when...
Our commercial/industrial lighting is 277v.

Back on topic, please hang around till the season gets underway, I want to see what you have to say when AC gets spanked
Please explain how lighting is a different voltage to power??
2/24/2015 12:09pm
I predict RV will win at Qatar and this forum will erupt but over the season no one will touch mr consistent cairoli at some point...
I predict RV will win at Qatar and this forum will erupt but over the season no one will touch mr consistent cairoli at some point this season. RV will be beat by someone from the UK too hopefully by tommy and shaun. if it's wet tommy and at lommel shaun
dean122 wrote:
I understand the passion and dedication to your favorite rider, but these types of claims make you look a downright uninformed fanboy. I'm looking forward to...
I understand the passion and dedication to your favorite rider, but these types of claims make you look a downright uninformed fanboy. I'm looking forward to this MXGP season as much as anyone on this forum and I cheer on riders from both sides of the pond as I respect the level of talent and dedication regardless where someone is from. With that being said, if you think Tommy S. or Shaun S. has any hope to smoke RV straight up in any one condition, then that tells me you don't know a damn thing about MX racing.

Unless RV has a mechanical, DNF or DNS which you could count all 3 on one hand over his career, there's no chance in hell either of these riders will come close RV. The closest they will come to him is when they are getting lapped in ANY damn condition. RV isn't a specialist on any one condition, he's a God Damn freak of nature that specializes in dirt bike racing in any condition. He grew up in WA where it rains half the damn year and the tracks are muddy as fuck. RV doesn't care if it's hard pack, sand, mud, loam, rock, land, sea, space, or wherever the fuck, he's going to go balls out full throttle till the checkers and your ass better be ready.
And I'm the fan boy ??? I can't wait till the season starts
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2/24/2015 12:12pm
What I love about how this is all being set up is all the "RV is expected to run well in the first few rounds" implying that RV should win those or be very close. So if he wins, people act like no big deal, its expected, doesn't matter. But if he loses, all you will hear is about how he needed to do well there to have any chance once he gets to those REAL GP tracks. Many of the GP fans (not all) have really set this up nicely. Its a no win for RV in the early rounds. No matter how he does.

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2/24/2015 12:12pm
Please explain how lighting is a different voltage to power??
Really? I thought you were an electrician..lol

Our commercial buildings have 480/277v three phase power coming into the building which is used for lighting, HVAC, machinery, etc.

The 480v is stepped down to 208/120v for general power.

That endeth the lesson, back to AC and company getting worked... Laughing
2/24/2015 12:14pm Edited Date/Time 2/24/2015 12:15pm
You can't say anything till you've seen it. I mean, I don't think Villopoto will lap Searle or Simpson just like that. Maybe if those british guys have a bad race and crashed... And I don't know if those guys can pass Villopoto just like that in any conditions. I'll believe it only when I'll see it, in both ways...
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2/24/2015 12:16pm
I predict RV will win at Qatar and this forum will erupt but over the season no one will touch mr consistent cairoli at some point...
I predict RV will win at Qatar and this forum will erupt but over the season no one will touch mr consistent cairoli at some point this season. RV will be beat by someone from the UK too hopefully by tommy and shaun. if it's wet tommy and at lommel shaun
dean122 wrote:
I understand the passion and dedication to your favorite rider, but these types of claims make you look a downright uninformed fanboy. I'm looking forward to...
I understand the passion and dedication to your favorite rider, but these types of claims make you look a downright uninformed fanboy. I'm looking forward to this MXGP season as much as anyone on this forum and I cheer on riders from both sides of the pond as I respect the level of talent and dedication regardless where someone is from. With that being said, if you think Tommy S. or Shaun S. has any hope to smoke RV straight up in any one condition, then that tells me you don't know a damn thing about MX racing.

Unless RV has a mechanical, DNF or DNS which you could count all 3 on one hand over his career, there's no chance in hell either of these riders will come close RV. The closest they will come to him is when they are getting lapped in ANY damn condition. RV isn't a specialist on any one condition, he's a God Damn freak of nature that specializes in dirt bike racing in any condition. He grew up in WA where it rains half the damn year and the tracks are muddy as fuck. RV doesn't care if it's hard pack, sand, mud, loam, rock, land, sea, space, or wherever the fuck, he's going to go balls out full throttle till the checkers and your ass better be ready.
And I'm the fan boy ??? I can't wait till the season starts
You can't wait until the season starts...errrr...goes to Europe at round three with "real" GP tracks...errrr....goes to Lommel. Right? LOL
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2/24/2015 12:18pm
FlaNard wrote:
What I love about how this is all being set up is all the "RV is expected to run well in the first few rounds" implying...
What I love about how this is all being set up is all the "RV is expected to run well in the first few rounds" implying that RV should win those or be very close. So if he wins, people act like no big deal, its expected, doesn't matter. But if he loses, all you will hear is about how he needed to do well there to have any chance once he gets to those REAL GP tracks. Many of the GP fans (not all) have really set this up nicely. Its a no win for RV in the early rounds. No matter how he does.
Yup, you're exactly right...

And you can guarantee that unless he darn near goes undefeated on the season, they still won't admit he's the fastest in the world.
2/24/2015 12:35pm
Did anyone see where both Tyler and RV went in to that corner back to back? The speed difference is crazy! Tyler looked like a scrub
tyler messed up the entry of the corner, you can see his bike stand up and ruining his line...but i guess you only see what you hope to see
2/24/2015 12:39pm
Did anyone see where both Tyler and RV went in to that corner back to back? The speed difference is crazy! Tyler looked like a scrub
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tyler messed up the entry of the corner, you can see his bike stand up and ruining his line...but i guess you only see what you...
tyler messed up the entry of the corner, you can see his bike stand up and ruining his line...but i guess you only see what you hope to see
Yeah, Tyla messed up that one. But RV was still impressive in that corner...
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FlaNard wrote:
What I love about how this is all being set up is all the "RV is expected to run well in the first few rounds" implying...
What I love about how this is all being set up is all the "RV is expected to run well in the first few rounds" implying that RV should win those or be very close. So if he wins, people act like no big deal, its expected, doesn't matter. But if he loses, all you will hear is about how he needed to do well there to have any chance once he gets to those REAL GP tracks. Many of the GP fans (not all) have really set this up nicely. Its a no win for RV in the early rounds. No matter how he does.
Titan1 wrote:
Yup, you're exactly right... And you can guarantee that unless he darn near goes undefeated on the season, they still won't admit he's the fastest in...
Yup, you're exactly right...

And you can guarantee that unless he darn near goes undefeated on the season, they still won't admit he's the fastest in the world.
Way to act like its always just Euros that bring up such bullshit^^
There will be excuses on both sides of the sea, no matter if he wins or loses or destroys the field or retires after two races.
who the fuck cares
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2/24/2015 12:43pm
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I'm sorry, but can they not give the FACTORY riders a decent freakin track to practice on over there. That was pure shit!. In fact every...
I'm sorry, but can they not give the FACTORY riders a decent freakin track to practice on over there. That was pure shit!. In fact every track i've seen him ride on over there has been shit. Good God...the local shit tracks around here are better than that one. It also looks so damn unprofessional having a volkswagen van to test out of. No wonder it's considered a second rate series...what a joke...
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I wonder if it has anything to do with why the mxgp guys are so good on those rough tracks and the US guys always say...
I wonder if it has anything to do with why the mxgp guys are so good on those rough tracks and the US guys always say they are rougher than they're used to.. Would make sense to ride a fuckin turd track all the time.
I get that, but why should "professional" riders even have to ride turd tracks to begin with, ya know?
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2/24/2015 12:47pm
machine wrote:
I'm sorry, but can they not give the FACTORY riders a decent freakin track to practice on over there. That was pure shit!. In fact every...
I'm sorry, but can they not give the FACTORY riders a decent freakin track to practice on over there. That was pure shit!. In fact every track i've seen him ride on over there has been shit. Good God...the local shit tracks around here are better than that one. It also looks so damn unprofessional having a volkswagen van to test out of. No wonder it's considered a second rate series...what a joke...
peelout wrote:
I wonder if it has anything to do with why the mxgp guys are so good on those rough tracks and the US guys always say...
I wonder if it has anything to do with why the mxgp guys are so good on those rough tracks and the US guys always say they are rougher than they're used to.. Would make sense to ride a fuckin turd track all the time.
machine wrote:
I get that, but why should "professional" riders even have to ride turd tracks to begin with, ya know?
I heard Josh Grant say in a video once that his dad would take him to the crappiest tracks he could find to practice on...something like "practice in hell...race in heaven"...logic being if he was used to crappy tracks, the tracks on race day would look like heaven. I'm sure the same applies.

And when the pros here test...they don't drag the semi out there...they usually test out of a sprinter van or something very similar to what Ryan is testing out of in that video.
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2/24/2015 12:48pm
And I'm the fan boy ??? I can't wait till the season starts
There's a difference between being a realist and fanboy. You'd fall under the latter.
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2/24/2015 12:49pm
machine wrote:
I'm sorry, but can they not give the FACTORY riders a decent freakin track to practice on over there. That was pure shit!. In fact every...
I'm sorry, but can they not give the FACTORY riders a decent freakin track to practice on over there. That was pure shit!. In fact every track i've seen him ride on over there has been shit. Good God...the local shit tracks around here are better than that one. It also looks so damn unprofessional having a volkswagen van to test out of. No wonder it's considered a second rate series...what a joke...
peelout wrote:
I wonder if it has anything to do with why the mxgp guys are so good on those rough tracks and the US guys always say...
I wonder if it has anything to do with why the mxgp guys are so good on those rough tracks and the US guys always say they are rougher than they're used to.. Would make sense to ride a fuckin turd track all the time.
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Factory Kawaski is based in the Netherlands which predominantly consists of sand tracks. Most of northern Europe is freezing cold and wet/snowing right now so teams...
Factory Kawaski is based in the Netherlands which predominantly consists of sand tracks. Most of northern Europe is freezing cold and wet/snowing right now so teams tend to train down south where the temperature is a littler warmer and there are a wider variety of tracks.

The team headed down to the Island of Sardinia where they could choose between a selection of tracks situated in close proximity and presumably - due to the nature of being on a small Island - keep a relatively low profile. On their way down south they stopped off at a track in Marseille (France) to test for a few days (shown in the official Kawi promotional video released last week). Then they got a ferry over to the Island of Corsica and rode the track shown in this thread, before boarding another boat to Sardinia where they based themselves for the last two weeks. It's possible that they hadn't planned to ride that track on Corsica at all to begin with, but their passage to Sardinia was delayed by a day or two thanks to rough seas so they may have just taken the opportunity to ride while they were there. You have to realise that for six or seven months of the year that track is baked in sunshine so there is very little in the way of drainage when it rains in Winter.

January/Feb are the coldest and wettest months of the year for most of Europe, but teams still have to try and work around the weather as best they can. They live a very nomadic lifestyle just moving around form place to place usually. Very few tracks are maintained at all during winter, especially hardpack tracks that require a lot of prep, and I doubt the teams give track owners much pre-warning before they decide to turn up or monetary incentive to prep the tracks especially for them. The owners probably just toss them the keys and let them get on with it.

Perhaps you guys will also start to realise that the perception that Motocross is somehow more popular in Europe than America is purely a myth. This is one reason why European riders are tempted by a move to California or Florida, where they can train on perfectly groomed tracks in good weather and all year round.

This is the same track in Corsica a little later in the year probably...


And this is Corsica from June to September...
Damn, that bottom pic looks awesome right now as I sit inside the house with snow outside. With that said, don't you think the teams could throw some money for a pre-prepped track, if they know they will be there a a few days? I mean, if they can build and maintain factory SX and Outdoor tracks here in the states and all the money that costs, you would think they could give the track owners a couple hundred to rent the track for a day or two. This is supposed to be a professional sport after all. Like I said, it just makes the GP's look a little 2nd rate.
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2/24/2015 12:52pm
machine wrote:
I get that, but why should "professional" riders even have to ride turd tracks to begin with, ya know?
What exactly is wrong with that track anyway? It looks like good dirt and a nice layout. I don't know what you expect from a track to be honest
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2/24/2015 12:52pm
We need motocross hooligans like the kickball fans so we can just beat the shit out of each other before races lol.
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2/24/2015 12:56pm
FlaNard wrote:
What I love about how this is all being set up is all the "RV is expected to run well in the first few rounds" implying...
What I love about how this is all being set up is all the "RV is expected to run well in the first few rounds" implying that RV should win those or be very close. So if he wins, people act like no big deal, its expected, doesn't matter. But if he loses, all you will hear is about how he needed to do well there to have any chance once he gets to those REAL GP tracks. Many of the GP fans (not all) have really set this up nicely. Its a no win for RV in the early rounds. No matter how he does.
So basically Europeans are damned if we dare suggest anyone might beat RV and damned if we predict RV to win.

Sounds about right.

The only absolute certainty on this board these days is the way certain American members ruin thread after thread by deliberately prodding and poking around to get a rise out of European. As soon as someone bites the rest of the vultures descend en mass to put the person in their place. It's sad.
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2/24/2015 12:58pm
FlaNard wrote:
What I love about how this is all being set up is all the "RV is expected to run well in the first few rounds" implying...
What I love about how this is all being set up is all the "RV is expected to run well in the first few rounds" implying that RV should win those or be very close. So if he wins, people act like no big deal, its expected, doesn't matter. But if he loses, all you will hear is about how he needed to do well there to have any chance once he gets to those REAL GP tracks. Many of the GP fans (not all) have really set this up nicely. Its a no win for RV in the early rounds. No matter how he does.
jamma10 wrote:
So basically Europeans are damned if we dare suggest anyone might beat RV and damned if we predict RV to win. Sounds about right. The only...
So basically Europeans are damned if we dare suggest anyone might beat RV and damned if we predict RV to win.

Sounds about right.

The only absolute certainty on this board these days is the way certain American members ruin thread after thread by deliberately prodding and poking around to get a rise out of European. As soon as someone bites the rest of the vultures descend en mass to put the person in their place. It's sad.
Well, it IS an American forum...seems logical, no?
2/24/2015 12:59pm
Please explain how lighting is a different voltage to power??
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Really? I thought you were an electrician..lol Our commercial buildings have 480/277v three phase power coming into the building which is used for lighting, HVAC, machinery...
Really? I thought you were an electrician..lol

Our commercial buildings have 480/277v three phase power coming into the building which is used for lighting, HVAC, machinery, etc.

The 480v is stepped down to 208/120v for general power.

That endeth the lesson, back to AC and company getting worked... Laughing
Same as here then just we use 230 for everything other 3 phase motors which lighting isn't that was the confusing part
2/24/2015 1:03pm
FlaNard wrote:
What I love about how this is all being set up is all the "RV is expected to run well in the first few rounds" implying...
What I love about how this is all being set up is all the "RV is expected to run well in the first few rounds" implying that RV should win those or be very close. So if he wins, people act like no big deal, its expected, doesn't matter. But if he loses, all you will hear is about how he needed to do well there to have any chance once he gets to those REAL GP tracks. Many of the GP fans (not all) have really set this up nicely. Its a no win for RV in the early rounds. No matter how he does.
jamma10 wrote:
So basically Europeans are damned if we dare suggest anyone might beat RV and damned if we predict RV to win. Sounds about right. The only...
So basically Europeans are damned if we dare suggest anyone might beat RV and damned if we predict RV to win.

Sounds about right.

The only absolute certainty on this board these days is the way certain American members ruin thread after thread by deliberately prodding and poking around to get a rise out of European. As soon as someone bites the rest of the vultures descend en mass to put the person in their place. It's sad.

They're Americans it's how they were raised. There isn't any other country in this world we live on. USA USA USA USA USA
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2/24/2015 1:05pm
Same as here then just we use 230 for everything other 3 phase motors which lighting isn't that was the confusing part
Lighting and power are different systems, run in separate conduits and panels.
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FlaNard wrote:
What I love about how this is all being set up is all the "RV is expected to run well in the first few rounds" implying...
What I love about how this is all being set up is all the "RV is expected to run well in the first few rounds" implying that RV should win those or be very close. So if he wins, people act like no big deal, its expected, doesn't matter. But if he loses, all you will hear is about how he needed to do well there to have any chance once he gets to those REAL GP tracks. Many of the GP fans (not all) have really set this up nicely. Its a no win for RV in the early rounds. No matter how he does.
jamma10 wrote:
So basically Europeans are damned if we dare suggest anyone might beat RV and damned if we predict RV to win. Sounds about right. The only...
So basically Europeans are damned if we dare suggest anyone might beat RV and damned if we predict RV to win.

Sounds about right.

The only absolute certainty on this board these days is the way certain American members ruin thread after thread by deliberately prodding and poking around to get a rise out of European. As soon as someone bites the rest of the vultures descend en mass to put the person in their place. It's sad.

They're Americans it's how they were raised. There isn't any other country in this world we live on. USA USA USA USA USA
And all Brits are raised with an inferiority complex.
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2/24/2015 1:09pm Edited Date/Time 2/24/2015 1:14pm
machine wrote:
Damn, that bottom pic looks awesome right now as I sit inside the house with snow outside. With that said, don't you think the teams could...
Damn, that bottom pic looks awesome right now as I sit inside the house with snow outside. With that said, don't you think the teams could throw some money for a pre-prepped track, if they know they will be there a a few days? I mean, if they can build and maintain factory SX and Outdoor tracks here in the states and all the money that costs, you would think they could give the track owners a couple hundred to rent the track for a day or two. This is supposed to be a professional sport after all. Like I said, it just makes the GP's look a little 2nd rate.
I expect they did pay to use the deep sand track that they visited a number of times on Sardinia. But like I said the Corsican track featured in the video on the first page may have been a last minute stop-gap while they waited for the seas to calm down before continung on to Sardinia. The population of Corsica is around 300,000 so I doubt they have an abundence of Motocross enthusiasts.

2/24/2015 1:10pm
Same as here then just we use 230 for everything other 3 phase motors which lighting isn't that was the confusing part
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Lighting and power are different systems, run in separate conduits and panels.
Cool cheers every days a school day
2/24/2015 1:33pm
Titan1 wrote:
Well, it IS an American forum...seems logical, no?
Even more sad, if it's logical...
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FlaNard wrote:
What I love about how this is all being set up is all the "RV is expected to run well in the first few rounds" implying...
What I love about how this is all being set up is all the "RV is expected to run well in the first few rounds" implying that RV should win those or be very close. So if he wins, people act like no big deal, its expected, doesn't matter. But if he loses, all you will hear is about how he needed to do well there to have any chance once he gets to those REAL GP tracks. Many of the GP fans (not all) have really set this up nicely. Its a no win for RV in the early rounds. No matter how he does.
jamma10 wrote:
So basically Europeans are damned if we dare suggest anyone might beat RV and damned if we predict RV to win. Sounds about right. The only...
So basically Europeans are damned if we dare suggest anyone might beat RV and damned if we predict RV to win.

Sounds about right.

The only absolute certainty on this board these days is the way certain American members ruin thread after thread by deliberately prodding and poking around to get a rise out of European. As soon as someone bites the rest of the vultures descend en mass to put the person in their place. It's sad.
You can throw PhilG, Bulmer and now young Matt into the prodders and pokers from the island with the Union Jack...we each have our share...we just need to weed through the riff raff....
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Well, it IS an American forum...seems logical, no?
Even more sad, if it's logical...
Would you expect anything other than Americans, on an American forum, defending their riders? Its just the way it is...If I went to a GP forum, and started saying RV was going to walk over everyone and Cairoli would get beaten into submission and crash his brains out trying to run RV's pace and end up DNFing the series...I would expect the GP fans to defend him and gang up on me. Its just the way it is.
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2/24/2015 2:07pm Edited Date/Time 2/24/2015 2:09pm
Defending your rider is one thing, but most of the belligerence and straight up arrogance does seem to be coming from the pro-Villopoto camp.

It's like they can't imagine Villopoto *not* being head and shoulders above everyone else, even an 8 time world champion on home soil and facing the challenge of his career.

Me, I think it's quite possible that Villopoto will win the series. Just as it's possible for a fast European to go to the States and win AMA titles (Roczen, Wilson and Pourcel in recent years).

But to talk like Villopoto emerging victorious is a foregone conclusion is hubristic to say the least.

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