Valli, Regal, Baker Out For Hangtown

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5/13/2013 2:29 PM

Racer X has learned that Valli Motorsports Yamaha will not be racing at the 2013 Lucas Oil Pro Motocross opener at Hangtown. While the team did race Monster Energy Supercross, the outdoor plans were never locked in, and for now the squad will go on hiatus. The team is not folding, and it's possible we'll see it return in some form in 2013, but for now, Travis Baker and Kyle Regal are looking for rides. We'll follow up with more details as we find them. Baker sent out the following via his twitter (@TRAVISBAKERmx) account:

Really bummed I won't be lining up on the gate this weekend. Worked hard and nothing. #sucks

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Miss you Kurt ! RIP

5/13/2013 2:32 PM

All Baker has to do is buy a bike and go. He is local (CA based)---geez.....

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5/13/2013 2:38 PM

Temporary fill in for Hahn or Millsaps?

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5/13/2013 2:58 PM

swtwtwtw wrote:

All Baker has to do is buy a bike and go. He is local (CA based)---geez.....

Yea because I'm sure he has a few grand that he can spend on a whim to buy a bike, gas for driving up to norcal, entry fee, food, accommodations, race fuel, and etc. The list goes on and on. And that would be the cheapest race to go to since it is the closest one besides Elsinore to socal. Money doesn't grow on trees....

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5/13/2013 3:19 PM

swtwtwtw wrote:

All Baker has to do is buy a bike and go. He is local (CA based)---geez.....

C.Worthy wrote:

Yea because I'm sure he has a few grand that he can spend on a whim to buy a bike, gas for driving up to norcal, entry fee, food, accommodations, race fuel, and etc. The list goes on and on. And that would be the cheapest race to go to since it is the closest one besides Elsinore to socal. Money doesn't grow on trees....

Peick will be there...so will plenty of other privateer's. Just sayin'!

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5/13/2013 3:31 PM

Hard to imagine that he is just now finding out he doesn't have a ride. If so, that sucks. Some of these guys who are on the edge of being there or not being there might just want to keep a nice bike around for when they seem to constantly get shit upon. We hear this story over and over anymore. As amateurs, some of these guys have a whole damn fleet of bikes yet when they turn pro they are bikeless. Listening to Hughes in his interviews this time last year when he was wanting someone to give him a national caliber bike or he wasn't going to attempt Hangtown....and complaining that all he had was a clapped out 2009 Yamaha practice bike? The guy teaches MX schools for a living , races all over Ca. and only owns one clapped out old bike? Not to mention he was a multi time factory rider. It really is a bummer for some of these guys but anymore it is tough to figure out which ones to feel sorry for. Big houses, fancy cars and not enough money to buy a dirt bike.

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5/13/2013 3:33 PM

Sounds like PJ Larsen won't be lining up also. From his twitter:
Anybody need a rider for outdoors? I do believe I am available! Haha. Tough times these are..

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5/13/2013 3:38 PM

swtwtwtw wrote:

All Baker has to do is buy a bike and go. He is local (CA based)---geez.....

C.Worthy wrote:

Yea because I'm sure he has a few grand that he can spend on a whim to buy a bike, gas for driving up to norcal, entry fee, food, accommodations, race fuel, and etc. The list goes on and on. And that would be the cheapest race to go to since it is the closest one besides Elsinore to socal. Money doesn't grow on trees....

therealjonon wrote:

Peick will be there...so will plenty of other privateer's. Just sayin'!

Yea what did he do for a bike and entry fees when he was an amatuer?

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"Who cares about what other people think"

5/13/2013 3:38 PM

newmann wrote:

Hard to imagine that he is just now finding out he doesn't have a ride. If so, that sucks. Some of these guys who are on the edge of being there or not being there might just want to keep a nice bike around for when they seem to constantly get shit upon. We hear this story over and over anymore. As amateurs, some of these guys have a whole damn fleet of bikes yet when they turn pro they are bikeless. Listening to Hughes in his interviews this time last year when he was wanting someone to give him a national caliber bike or he wasn't going to attempt Hangtown....and complaining that all he had was a clapped out 2009 Yamaha practice bike? The guy teaches MX schools for a living , races all over Ca. and only owns one clapped out old bike? Not to mention he was a multi time factory rider. It really is a bummer for some of these guys but anymore it is tough to figure out which ones to feel sorry for. Big houses, fancy cars and not enough money to buy a dirt bike.

+1

Well stated.

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"Who cares about what other people think"

5/13/2013 3:44 PM

Poor guy check this video out :

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Miss you Kurt ! RIP

5/13/2013 3:49 PM

newmann wrote:

Hard to imagine that he is just now finding out he doesn't have a ride. If so, that sucks. Some of these guys who are on the edge of being there or not being there might just want to keep a nice bike around for when they seem to constantly get shit upon. We hear this story over and over anymore. As amateurs, some of these guys have a whole damn fleet of bikes yet when they turn pro they are bikeless. Listening to Hughes in his interviews this time last year when he was wanting someone to give him a national caliber bike or he wasn't going to attempt Hangtown....and complaining that all he had was a clapped out 2009 Yamaha practice bike? The guy teaches MX schools for a living , races all over Ca. and only owns one clapped out old bike? Not to mention he was a multi time factory rider. It really is a bummer for some of these guys but anymore it is tough to figure out which ones to feel sorry for. Big houses, fancy cars and not enough money to buy a dirt bike.

Well said Newmann.

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5/13/2013 3:54 PM

Some times the wallet can't afford the lifestyle. Sure the best things are free but if not earned then the second best is beating them on something you paid for yourself thru hard work. Yes there are guys who have earned a free ride and some that don't but beating them on something you own just proves you want it more than they do.

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5/13/2013 4:03 PM

In Seattle it was still undecided, but by Vegas the Valli Motorsports Yamaha guys pretty well knew that they wouldn't be riding outdoors. Travis said that he went into Supercross knowing that it might not carry over to the outdoors, and that it was in his contract.

Travis was on a Honda last Friday at the Racer X pro ride session.

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5/13/2013 4:27 PM

Gibby...this reminds me of the story you told me when you were here

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5/13/2013 4:29 PM
Edited Date/Time: 5/13/2013 4:42 PM

Taylor156 wrote:

Poor guy check this video out :

What do you mean poor guy, I'm confused? That's not his house or his facility. All I see is a kid paying his trainer to eat and breathe moto while sleeping on his trainers couch and train thousands of miles away from his family/friends with the hope of making a career out of moto. I'm not the biggest fan of KR, but I've seen plenty of riders go this same route and trust me, they aren't living the life you think. Please explain.

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5/13/2013 4:38 PM

swtwtwtw wrote:

All Baker has to do is buy a bike and go. He is local (CA based)---geez.....

C.Worthy wrote:

Yea because I'm sure he has a few grand that he can spend on a whim to buy a bike, gas for driving up to norcal, entry fee, food, accommodations, race fuel, and etc. The list goes on and on. And that would be the cheapest race to go to since it is the closest one besides Elsinore to socal. Money doesn't grow on trees....

therealjonon wrote:

Peick will be there...so will plenty of other privateer's. Just sayin'!

I thought the guys at proride were donating money to Peick's program. Either way it's still expensive. I don't know his finances so maybe we'll see him out there. I hope we do!

Btw I'm really hoping Peick has some good results this outdoor season. He's been on a roll.

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5/13/2013 5:05 PM

I forgot who it was, maybe Peick, or Chiz when he didn't have a ride, I can't remember right now. They were talking about buying their own bike and putting their own money out there was still worth it for them because they could still make a few thousand bucks and make more money than if they were to quit. I get it, once you start having all of this provided for you it must be pretty tough to come to grips with it not being there.

These guys probably have two options.

- Spend a little to make a little and show that you are willing to do what you have to do, maybe even pick up a fill in ride somewhere.
- Sit at home and say you did everything you could while you fade from everyone's memories.

In my opinion, if these guys don't show up then it's because they don't want to be there too terribly bad.

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5/13/2013 5:59 PM

newmann wrote:

Hard to imagine that he is just now finding out he doesn't have a ride. If so, that sucks. Some of these guys who are on the edge of being there or not being there might just want to keep a nice bike around for when they seem to constantly get shit upon. We hear this story over and over anymore. As amateurs, some of these guys have a whole damn fleet of bikes yet when they turn pro they are bikeless. Listening to Hughes in his interviews this time last year when he was wanting someone to give him a national caliber bike or he wasn't going to attempt Hangtown....and complaining that all he had was a clapped out 2009 Yamaha practice bike? The guy teaches MX schools for a living , races all over Ca. and only owns one clapped out old bike? Not to mention he was a multi time factory rider. It really is a bummer for some of these guys but anymore it is tough to figure out which ones to feel sorry for. Big houses, fancy cars and not enough money to buy a dirt bike.

that was a good read and some very good points lol.

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The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good. ~ Samuel Johnson

5/13/2013 6:08 PM

Taylor156 wrote:

Poor guy check this video out :

Yeah, that does suck seeing how much work they put in and having their deal flop six days away. I hope Kyle can round up a bike and get out there. I remember a few years ago he was killing it on a pretty stock Honda 450.

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The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good. ~ Samuel Johnson

5/13/2013 6:13 PM

last time regal went privateer on a honda he did great ,

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5/13/2013 6:15 PM

Newman made some great points as usual.

Regals done the nationals on his own so to speak before, why not now?Kyle is blue collar and doesnt need all the pampering that some of these other kids think they need. Hes young and can still do the privateer route.

Baker, I would suggest he look into Community College for next fall and working on his SX skills for one last go of it in 2014. He had two years at Troy Lee and now one year at Valli without really doing much.

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" You thank whoever is up there, every morning you open your eyes, an everyday you can put your body on a motorcycle, thats pretty good enough for me" -Lars Larson

5/13/2013 6:18 PM

newmann wrote:

Hard to imagine that he is just now finding out he doesn't have a ride. If so, that sucks. Some of these guys who are on the edge of being there or not being there might just want to keep a nice bike around for when they seem to constantly get shit upon. We hear this story over and over anymore. As amateurs, some of these guys have a whole damn fleet of bikes yet when they turn pro they are bikeless. Listening to Hughes in his interviews this time last year when he was wanting someone to give him a national caliber bike or he wasn't going to attempt Hangtown....and complaining that all he had was a clapped out 2009 Yamaha practice bike? The guy teaches MX schools for a living , races all over Ca. and only owns one clapped out old bike? Not to mention he was a multi time factory rider. It really is a bummer for some of these guys but anymore it is tough to figure out which ones to feel sorry for. Big houses, fancy cars and not enough money to buy a dirt bike.

Hi, it's me, again & I'm concurring with The Pirate.

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I ripped a start from Egypt and I was happy about that.

5/13/2013 6:39 PM

Baker was top 10 last year. Pretty darn good considering who is listed above him. Hope he finds a ride or a fill in spot.
Position Rider Hometown Points
1
Blake Baggett
Grand Terrace, CA 519
2
Justin Barcia
Monroe, NY 499
3
Eli Tomac
Cortez, CO 487
4
Ken Roczen
Mattstedt, Germany 456
5
Marvin Musquin
France 406
6
William Hahn
Wichita, KS 316
7
Blake Wharton
Pilot Point, TX 265
8
Jason Anderson
Edgewood, NM 238
9
Jessy Nelson
Paso Robles, CA 225
10
Travis Baker
Murrieta, CA 193

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5/13/2013 6:43 PM
Edited Date/Time: 5/13/2013 6:49 PM

swtwtwtw wrote:

All Baker has to do is buy a bike and go. He is local (CA based)---geez.....

I know right. Prove to them you care enough to spend your own money and try to make do and maybe get on a team.... How bad does he want it? Is “it” money or passion?

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5/13/2013 6:47 PM

swtwtwtw wrote:

All Baker has to do is buy a bike and go. He is local (CA based)---geez.....

Getting a bike built for a national in 5 days is a bit of a stretch...

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Has science gone too far?

5/13/2013 6:49 PM

Taylor156 wrote:

Poor guy check this video out :

I have a friend with a 3000 sq ft home, wife in a 2008 Beamer, a ski boat, and he cruises around in a 2006 Yukon.
Dude hasn't had a 1,000 dollars in the bank in 5 years.
How does that apply to this? Everything is not always as it appears

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Popin' them wheelies since 72
1976 graduate of Doug Domokos's School of One Wheel Cool.

5/13/2013 6:55 PM
Edited Date/Time: 5/14/2013 1:07 AM

newmann wrote:

Hard to imagine that he is just now finding out he doesn't have a ride. If so, that sucks. Some of these guys who are on the edge of being there or not being there might just want to keep a nice bike around for when they seem to constantly get shit upon. We hear this story over and over anymore. As amateurs, some of these guys have a whole damn fleet of bikes yet when they turn pro they are bikeless. Listening to Hughes in his interviews this time last year when he was wanting someone to give him a national caliber bike or he wasn't going to attempt Hangtown....and complaining that all he had was a clapped out 2009 Yamaha practice bike? The guy teaches MX schools for a living , races all over Ca. and only owns one clapped out old bike? Not to mention he was a multi time factory rider. It really is a bummer for some of these guys but anymore it is tough to figure out which ones to feel sorry for. Big houses, fancy cars and not enough money to buy a dirt bike.

Right. How many of these guys have made 100's and 100's of thousands of dollars and pissed it all away. All the while some of us scrape together a few grand to try to turn it into a long term investment, but yet we have bikes to ride.

Seems like a decent investment for a guy on the level of Regal would be to spend 15 grand to have a 450 with a A kit suspension ready to go. Short raced a stock Honda with suspension work in SX right?

Some of these guys might do better on their own bike that they know inside and out instead of bouncing around on all these hokey teams that live month to month and ride 3 different bikes (sometimes 3 brands) and season.

I know Bowers has respectfully turned down a few rides over the years because it didn't fit into their own plan. Looks like it's working pretty well for him right now.

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5/13/2013 8:02 PM

newmann wrote:

Hard to imagine that he is just now finding out he doesn't have a ride. If so, that sucks. Some of these guys who are on the edge of being there or not being there might just want to keep a nice bike around for when they seem to constantly get shit upon. We hear this story over and over anymore. As amateurs, some of these guys have a whole damn fleet of bikes yet when they turn pro they are bikeless. Listening to Hughes in his interviews this time last year when he was wanting someone to give him a national caliber bike or he wasn't going to attempt Hangtown....and complaining that all he had was a clapped out 2009 Yamaha practice bike? The guy teaches MX schools for a living , races all over Ca. and only owns one clapped out old bike? Not to mention he was a multi time factory rider. It really is a bummer for some of these guys but anymore it is tough to figure out which ones to feel sorry for. Big houses, fancy cars and not enough money to buy a dirt bike.

JB 19 wrote:

Right. How many of these guys have made 100's and 100's of thousands of dollars and pissed it all away. All the while some of us scrape together a few grand to try to turn it into a long term investment, but yet we have bikes to ride.

Seems like a decent investment for a guy on the level of Regal would be to spend 15 grand to have a 450 with a A kit suspension ready to go. Short raced a stock Honda with suspension work in SX right?

Some of these guys might do better on their own bike that they know inside and out instead of bouncing around on all these hokey teams that live month to month and ride 3 different bikes (sometimes 3 brands) and season.

I know Bowers has respectfully turned down a few rides over the years because it didn't fit into their own plan. Looks like it's working pretty well for him right now.

I don't think guys like Regal and Baker have 15k laying around.
15k for a bike and maybe another 1,000 to go race?
250 Entry fee?
200 Gas for the transport vehicle?
50 Race gas?
100 to fill a cooler?
I am not going to claim knowledge of their personal finances, but to most young men in their early 20's, 3000 dollars(maybe in the form of contingency money or a accumulation of some sad purse payouts) equals some new rims and subs
Age aside, how many of you have the 15k laying around?

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Popin' them wheelies since 72
1976 graduate of Doug Domokos's School of One Wheel Cool.

5/13/2013 8:21 PM

If they don't have 15k after the rides they have had, how how much do you think they will have after sitting on the couch all summer?

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5/13/2013 8:26 PM

newmann wrote:

Hard to imagine that he is just now finding out he doesn't have a ride. If so, that sucks. Some of these guys who are on the edge of being there or not being there might just want to keep a nice bike around for when they seem to constantly get shit upon. We hear this story over and over anymore. As amateurs, some of these guys have a whole damn fleet of bikes yet when they turn pro they are bikeless. Listening to Hughes in his interviews this time last year when he was wanting someone to give him a national caliber bike or he wasn't going to attempt Hangtown....and complaining that all he had was a clapped out 2009 Yamaha practice bike? The guy teaches MX schools for a living , races all over Ca. and only owns one clapped out old bike? Not to mention he was a multi time factory rider. It really is a bummer for some of these guys but anymore it is tough to figure out which ones to feel sorry for. Big houses, fancy cars and not enough money to buy a dirt bike.

Well put, finally someone with some sense... What is the deal with all these racers without a dirtbike?! They have everything but a bike they can't race at a national.. Geez what a bunch of pre madonnas.. WP46 seems to be able to show up to all the SX races on a bike with some suspension and a muffler and runs in the top 10. He doesn't have a ride but mans up and goes racing. You don't have to do alot to a 450 to go racing, ask Shorty

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