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Okay, so this happened at a local race. I’m curious how the Vitards would’ve scored this.
I don’t know the two classes in this moto, but it was a double drop and a 4 lap race. Both gates drop, everyone goes. I don’t know the names of the two parties, so I’ll call them rider A and rider B. Prior to the 4th and last lap, rider B gets lapped and finishes the moto. Meanwhile, rider A doesn’t get lapped and is finishing their last lap. During that last lap, rider A eats shit and is knocked out cold. Ten minutes later, rider A gets up and finishes the moto and cutting across the track to do so. In the results, rider A placed one spot ahead of rider B.
The end result doesn’t matter. Rider B doesn’t really care, but for conversation purposes only, who should’ve been scored ahead of who? I don’t know the answer to this! Rider B would have obviously passed unconscious rider A, but wasn’t able to due to being lapped. But, rider A did finish the race (but probably shouldn’t have).
I don’t know the two classes in this moto, but it was a double drop and a 4 lap race. Both gates drop, everyone goes. I don’t know the names of the two parties, so I’ll call them rider A and rider B. Prior to the 4th and last lap, rider B gets lapped and finishes the moto. Meanwhile, rider A doesn’t get lapped and is finishing their last lap. During that last lap, rider A eats shit and is knocked out cold. Ten minutes later, rider A gets up and finishes the moto and cutting across the track to do so. In the results, rider A placed one spot ahead of rider B.
The end result doesn’t matter. Rider B doesn’t really care, but for conversation purposes only, who should’ve been scored ahead of who? I don’t know the answer to this! Rider B would have obviously passed unconscious rider A, but wasn’t able to due to being lapped. But, rider A did finish the race (but probably shouldn’t have).
The Shop
Under amateur rules you have to cross the finish line so if you lap everyone but your bike dies on the last lap you get a dnf.
Had this issue at the AQ at Riverfront. Checkered flag guy lost track of the race. My daughter saw the white flag twice then her bike died on lap 7 of a 4 lap race. She was given dnf even though she had lapped to 4th and some kids were 2 laps behind her.
Ama amateur rules date back to 1970s flat track and no one on the rule committee actively races or attends any races. That’s the issue in a nutshell.
You score on how many laps you do in 3 hours for example. If you get to the finish line with say with a flat tyre at say 2h50. You have to complete another lap or dnf. You can take as long as you you like to finish within reason. Some riders stop around the corner from the finish line then wait for the 3 hours to pass then cross the finish line to ensure a finish (Not top runners obviously)
So similar concept.
Thus rider A never took the checkered flag on the specified lap.....DNF
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
And with that statement...................... you don't know what you are talking about.
most everyone I know on rule committee's have been racing a long time, and most still attend if not all, and a large majority either run events, or race events regularly.
just because a "rule" is old doesn't make it obsolete.
Formula 1, MXGP, AMA Supercross / Motocross
If you lap the whole field and your bike dies on the last lap you still win. As it’s physically impossible for the rest of the field to unlap themselves. Best they can do is the same number of laps in a slower time.
The way the amateur rule is written is. If it’s a 10 lap race and your bike dies on lap 9. Someone who’s only done 5 laps but physically passes the checkered flag beats you. That’s just stupid.
Pit Row
How can people rule on this scenario that doesn’t make any sense?
How can I get the 5 minutes back I wasted trying to figure out what the hell your talking about?
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