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Tbteam Tbteam
10/15/2018 8:52 AM

Somewhere in the event insurance contract (trust me, Monster didn't put up their own money), there undoubtedly exists a clause that references "coercion" or "undue influence" or "collusion" or "conspire to alter the outcome" that could throw this entire thing in the trash. I'd hate it for the fan, but you never know.

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Donovan759 Donovan759
10/15/2018 8:56 AM

I've been thinking the same thing. It will be interesting to see how it pans out. That's for sure.

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500guy 500guy
10/15/2018 8:57 AM
Tbteam wrote:

Somewhere in the event ...more

According to a post I saw, The SX manager said that Feld put the money up and there was no insurance policy.

Also Eli was going to Win 1,1,2 or Eli was going to Win , 1,1,1 how can you fix the outcome of a race that the guy finished 1st either way ?

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mister2dt mister2dt
10/15/2018 8:57 AM

Monster will put up the million to avoid the PR disaster that would follow a fan getting jacked out of his prize. Subject is a non issue. Dudes getting paid regardless of whom it comes from

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TJ 755 TJ 755
10/15/2018 9:05 AM
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Gimme about Fo fifty K son
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Tbteam Tbteam
10/15/2018 9:08 AM
Tbteam wrote:

Somewhere in the event ...more

500guy wrote:

According to a post I saw, ...more

Because the 1-1-2 doesn’t trigger the million.

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SmokinJoe439 SmokinJoe439
10/15/2018 9:08 AM

Eli has a dear stan fan for life now.

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Moto96 Moto96
10/15/2018 9:09 AM
Tbteam wrote:

Somewhere in the event ...more

To be fair, lets say the Monster Million for Eli was put up by the CEO Personally who is worth almost 2 Billion, not counting the Corporation.

Not sure spending (risking) 400K to Insure 1MM would be worth it when it would be like having to pay out a dollar.

Now if the payout was 10 or 100 million, now the gamble might be worth it.


My post is my opinion. If you don't agree with it, I'm OK with it.

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Bultaco Bultaco
10/15/2018 9:15 AM

For the sake of argument, one could say the fan is owed the million, if Eli went 1-1-1, regardless. The fan did nothing to alter the outcome of the race.

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Tbteam Tbteam
10/15/2018 9:19 AM

Oh, and Jay, no need to get testy.

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500guy 500guy
10/15/2018 9:21 AM
Tbteam wrote:

Oh, and Jay, no need to ...more

That was the post I saw or part of it, Not my words. Sorry for the confusion, I'm not testy about it one bit.

I see both sides of it, I just don't think there will be any change to the outcome over it.

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JustMX JustMX
10/15/2018 9:24 AM

If they.decide that they should go back to an insurance policy that will probably be a no-go when the underwriter sees the clip of jv waving at ET like your grandma on the front porch

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MPJC MPJC
10/15/2018 9:24 AM

Eli and the fan have to get paid or nobody will ever watch the MEC again. It is not in their interest to create bad publicity that would ruin an otherwise positive story that can be used to market future events. It's not like they can't afford the payout, presuming that they're smart enough to not gamble with money that they can't afford to lose. This is a non-story everywhere but Vital, I'm guessing.

Current rides: 2021 TM 144, 2008 YZ250

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crusty_xx crusty_xx
10/15/2018 9:31 AM
Tbteam wrote:

Somewhere in the event ...more

If they would do that and it becomes public, they will lose far more than 2 millions in the long run, and they know it

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gt80rider gt80rider
10/15/2018 9:34 AM

https://autoweek.com/article/other-motorsports/questions-linger-eli-tomac-wins-2018-monster-energy-cup-las-vegas

And that is how the "mainstream" media is portraying Saturday night...

the guys taking the bets in Vegas do not look highly on the throwing of an event... If I was Tomac I would not spend a cent of that money quite yet...

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MPJC MPJC
10/15/2018 9:34 AM
Tbteam wrote:

Somewhere in the event ...more

crusty_xx wrote:

If they would do that and ...more

Exactly this ^^. There is no way this whole thing is getting thrown in the trash.

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jorgechavez jorgechavez
10/15/2018 9:48 AM
Bultaco wrote:

For the sake of argument, ...more

If they tried to withhold Eli's money he could easily make the argument that he did nothing to alter the outcome either. It's not like he can control what Savatgy does.

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Moto96 Moto96
10/15/2018 9:49 AM
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If its on Autoweek, there will be insurance adjusters looking this over 10 times more than they would have.

From the article : https://autoweek.com/article/other-motorsports/questions-linger-eli-tomac-wins-2018-monster-energy-cup-las-vegas#ixzz5U1Gl7R1H

After the race someone asked Tomac how much of the million dollars he was going to give to Savatgy.
“No comment,” Tomac said without irony or facial expression.

But like I posted above, I cant see Monster insuring a million or even 2 million total.. Its like a normal person insuring 10 cents in comparison.

Its not like an underfunded race team insuring a championship bonus.

My post is my opinion. If you don't agree with it, I'm OK with it.

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jeffro503 jeffro503
10/15/2018 10:07 AM
Bultaco wrote:

For the sake of argument, ...more

jorgechavez wrote:

If they tried to withhold ...more

That right there , is a good point!

And there goes Jeffro. One of God's own prototypes. A super high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

Ezza is Da man!

Pimpin' Ho's , Rollin' fatty's......drinkin' beers , beers , beers!! ~ Ja

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Sweetd31 Sweetd31
10/15/2018 10:08 AM
TJ 755 wrote:

Gimme about Fo fifty K ...more

I ain't giving you no 4 fitty you got damn Loch Ness monster

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MB19 MB19
10/15/2018 10:13 AM

If monster are whoever denied payment wouldn't it ultimately go to court? In this hypothetical situation, a jury would decide the fate of the 2 millilion. There's a very good chance that no one on the jury knows anything about moto. How can anyone prove without a doubt that savatgy pulled over for Tomac. Obviously he did, but prove it. Maybe his hand was cramping, that's why he took it off his bars. Maybe he panicked when he knew he was gonna win and it caused him to slow down. It's all bullshit but to a jury full of "normal" people, it creates doubt.
Anyways, it's over and done and I doubt Eli and drunk kid are gonna have any problem getting their money. Part of me thinks half that kid's money is already spent haha

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SeaClassExpert SeaClassExpert
10/15/2018 10:14 AM

You're sitting there telling me that Feld is going to obtain evidence that Joey Savatgy conspired with Eli beforehand without speculating "bECaUsE ThEYrE tEAmmATeS"?

If it can't be fixed with a hammer, it's an electrical problem.

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CozMan CozMan
10/15/2018 10:19 AM

meh. Even if the ins company argued against the payout, Monster would pay these two guys so fast to make the topic go away. Hell, you know that the Jesse guy would sue the shit out of Monster and put it all over the news, Eli/Savatgy (Monster employees) would look like chumps, and it would be a mess.

Monster will go dig in their couch cushions and pay this off as fast as possible so that people will start talking about A1.

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Squirrelings Squirrelings
10/15/2018 10:22 AM

There is no insurance company.

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ATHEIST ATHEIST
10/15/2018 10:23 AM

the fan did nothing give him his $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

SHORTER OF BREATH
ONE DAY CLOSER TO DEATH

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newmann newmann
10/15/2018 10:35 AM
gt80rider wrote:

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Maybe all the 12 year olds here on Vital can head over to Auto Week and give them a "Thumbs Down".

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Tbteam Tbteam
10/15/2018 10:40 AM

To be clear, I’m relatively certain that an entity would step in and pay, regardless of an insurance deal.

My point was, have you ever seen the crap that goes down when some fan at a basketball game hits a full court shot for $100k? “Oh wait, he played basketball in fifth grade and led the league in scoring, he’s ineligible “.

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gabrielito gabrielito
10/15/2018 10:44 AM

There is no way Monster bought insurance on this. They planned the whole thing. Why do you think they had the kid on the split screen the whole time like it was some kind of game show.

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tprice07 tprice07
10/15/2018 10:49 AM

I wonder if Jesse has ever heard of vital

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slaveO slaveO
10/15/2018 10:56 AM
tprice07 wrote:

I wonder if Jesse has ever ...more

I wonder if Jesse is still alive and made it out of Vegas laughing cool

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