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Somewhere in the event insurance contract (trust me, Monster didn't put up their own money), there undoubtedly exists a clause that references "coercion" or "undue influence" or "collusion" or "conspire to alter the outcome" that could throw this entire thing in the trash. I'd hate it for the fan, but you never know.
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I've been thinking the same thing. It will be interesting to see how it pans out. That's for sure.
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Tbteam wrote:
Somewhere in the event insurance contract (trust me, Monster didn't put up their own money), there undoubtedly exists a clause that references "coercion" or "undue influence" or "collusion" or "conspire to alter the outcome" that could throw this entire thing in the trash. I'd hate it for the fan, but you never know.
According to a post I saw, The SX manager said that Feld put the money up and there was no insurance policy.
Also Eli was going to Win 1,1,2 or Eli was going to Win , 1,1,1 how can you fix the outcome of a race that the guy finished 1st either way ?
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Monster will put up the million to avoid the PR disaster that would follow a fan getting jacked out of his prize. Subject is a non issue. Dudes getting paid regardless of whom it comes from
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Tbteam wrote:
Somewhere in the event insurance contract (trust me, Monster didn't put up their own money), there undoubtedly exists a clause that references "coercion" or "undue influence" or "collusion" or "conspire to alter the outcome" that could throw this entire thing in the trash. I'd hate it for the fan, but you never know.
500guy wrote:
According to a post I saw, The SX manager said that Feld put the money up and there was no insurance policy.
Also Eli was going to Win 1,1,2 or Eli was going to Win , 1,1,1 how can you fix the outcome of a race that the guy finished 1st either way ?
Because the 1-1-2 doesn’t trigger the million.
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Tbteam wrote:
Somewhere in the event insurance contract (trust me, Monster didn't put up their own money), there undoubtedly exists a clause that references "coercion" or "undue influence" or "collusion" or "conspire to alter the outcome" that could throw this entire thing in the trash. I'd hate it for the fan, but you never know.
To be fair, lets say the Monster Million for Eli was put up by the CEO Personally who is worth almost 2 Billion, not counting the Corporation.
Not sure spending (risking) 400K to Insure 1MM would be worth it when it would be like having to pay out a dollar.
Now if the payout was 10 or 100 million, now the gamble might be worth it.
My post is my opinion. If you don't agree with it, I'm OK with it.
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For the sake of argument, one could say the fan is owed the million, if Eli went 1-1-1, regardless. The fan did nothing to alter the outcome of the race.
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If they.decide that they should go back to an insurance policy that will probably be a no-go when the underwriter sees the clip of jv waving at ET like your grandma on the front porch
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Eli and the fan have to get paid or nobody will ever watch the MEC again. It is not in their interest to create bad publicity that would ruin an otherwise positive story that can be used to market future events. It's not like they can't afford the payout, presuming that they're smart enough to not gamble with money that they can't afford to lose. This is a non-story everywhere but Vital, I'm guessing.
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Tbteam wrote:
Somewhere in the event insurance contract (trust me, Monster didn't put up their own money), there undoubtedly exists a clause that references "coercion" or "undue influence" or "collusion" or "conspire to alter the outcome" that could throw this entire thing in the trash. I'd hate it for the fan, but you never know.
If they would do that and it becomes public, they will lose far more than 2 millions in the long run, and they know it
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https://autoweek.com/article/other-motorsports/questions-linger-eli-tomac-wins-2018-monster-energy-cup-las-vegas
And that is how the "mainstream" media is portraying Saturday night...
the guys taking the bets in Vegas do not look highly on the throwing of an event... If I was Tomac I would not spend a cent of that money quite yet...
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Tbteam wrote:
Somewhere in the event insurance contract (trust me, Monster didn't put up their own money), there undoubtedly exists a clause that references "coercion" or "undue influence" or "collusion" or "conspire to alter the outcome" that could throw this entire thing in the trash. I'd hate it for the fan, but you never know.
crusty_xx wrote:
If they would do that and it becomes public, they will lose far more than 2 millions in the long run, and they know it
Exactly this ^^. There is no way this whole thing is getting thrown in the trash.
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Bultaco wrote:
For the sake of argument, one could say the fan is owed the million, if Eli went 1-1-1, regardless. The fan did nothing to alter the outcome of the race.
If they tried to withhold Eli's money he could easily make the argument that he did nothing to alter the outcome either. It's not like he can control what Savatgy does.
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gt80rider wrote:
https://autoweek.com/article/other-motorsports/questions-linger-eli-tomac-wins-2018-monster-energy-cup-las-vegas
And that is how the "mainstream" media is portraying Saturday night...
the guys taking the bets in Vegas do not look highly on the throwing of an event... If I was Tomac I would not spend a cent of that money quite yet...
If its on Autoweek, there will be insurance adjusters looking this over 10 times more than they would have.
From the article : https://autoweek.com/article/other-motorsports/questions-linger-eli-tomac-wins-2018-monster-energy-cup-las-vegas#ixzz5U1Gl7R1H
After the race someone asked Tomac how much of the million dollars he was going to give to Savatgy.
“No comment,” Tomac said without irony or facial expression.
But like I posted above, I cant see Monster insuring a million or even 2 million total.. Its like a normal person insuring 10 cents in comparison.
Its not like an underfunded race team insuring a championship bonus.
My post is my opinion. If you don't agree with it, I'm OK with it.
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Bultaco wrote:
For the sake of argument, one could say the fan is owed the million, if Eli went 1-1-1, regardless. The fan did nothing to alter the outcome of the race.
jorgechavez wrote:
If they tried to withhold Eli's money he could easily make the argument that he did nothing to alter the outcome either. It's not like he can control what Savatgy does.
That right there , is a good point!
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If monster are whoever denied payment wouldn't it ultimately go to court? In this hypothetical situation, a jury would decide the fate of the 2 millilion. There's a very good chance that no one on the jury knows anything about moto. How can anyone prove without a doubt that savatgy pulled over for Tomac. Obviously he did, but prove it. Maybe his hand was cramping, that's why he took it off his bars. Maybe he panicked when he knew he was gonna win and it caused him to slow down. It's all bullshit but to a jury full of "normal" people, it creates doubt.
Anyways, it's over and done and I doubt Eli and drunk kid are gonna have any problem getting their money. Part of me thinks half that kid's money is already spent haha
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You're sitting there telling me that Feld is going to obtain evidence that Joey Savatgy conspired with Eli beforehand without speculating "bECaUsE ThEYrE tEAmmATeS"?
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meh. Even if the ins company argued against the payout, Monster would pay these two guys so fast to make the topic go away. Hell, you know that the Jesse guy would sue the shit out of Monster and put it all over the news, Eli/Savatgy (Monster employees) would look like chumps, and it would be a mess.
Monster will go dig in their couch cushions and pay this off as fast as possible so that people will start talking about A1.
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the fan did nothing give him his $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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gt80rider wrote:
https://autoweek.com/article/other-motorsports/questions-linger-eli-tomac-wins-2018-monster-energy-cup-las-vegas
And that is how the "mainstream" media is portraying Saturday night...
the guys taking the bets in Vegas do not look highly on the throwing of an event... If I was Tomac I would not spend a cent of that money quite yet...
Maybe all the 12 year olds here on Vital can head over to Auto Week and give them a "Thumbs Down".
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To be clear, I’m relatively certain that an entity would step in and pay, regardless of an insurance deal.
My point was, have you ever seen the crap that goes down when some fan at a basketball game hits a full court shot for $100k? “Oh wait, he played basketball in fifth grade and led the league in scoring, he’s ineligible “.
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There is no way Monster bought insurance on this. They planned the whole thing. Why do you think they had the kid on the split screen the whole time like it was some kind of game show.
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