USA owns the 250 class

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Edited Date/Time 1/25/2012 2:32am

;-)

250 Class Championship Standings

1. Christophe Pourcel, France, Kawasaki, 129
2. Tyla Rattray, South Africa, Kawasaki, 102
3. Dean Wilson, Canada, Kawasaki, 100
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I'll will say nothing about the GP riders being 1 and 2 and the fact that it looks like a GP from 2007 without the fastest rider Cairoli... are the nationals 4 years behind the GPs? lol jk Americans....ha ha

The Uk are looking good for the Nations with Simpson, Searle, Wilson, Anderson, Mackenzie (provided he races some GPs), Sword, Nicholls all capable of good results.

Right now my money would be on Wilson in MX2 with Simpson and Searle/Anderson on the MX1/MX3
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Wilson is crazy if he doesn't race for team GB... What's he gonna do for Canada, ride B-Finals all the time?!?!

Searle, Wilson. Anstie would be a great British Team...
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Doogan551 wrote:

;-)

250 Class Championship Standings

1. Christophe Pourcel, France, Kawasaki, 129
2. Tyla Rattray, South Africa, Kawasaki, 102
3. Dean Wilson, Canada, Kawasaki, 100
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prozach 6/13/2010 11:39am
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Bunch of world champion vets picking on kids all of whom have never won a major national championship!!! Look at the 450 class. Pretty much all Americans. I think the state of U.S. mx is fine. Or at least way better than the state of this site. Which is full of trolls who do nothing but fish all day to piss someone off. Pretty sad what this place has turned into. Some of you 40 year old never-beens need to get a life off the internet.
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Are they racing? No, they are not, hence your guessing is irrelevant.
There is also nothing suggesting Villo could dominate the mx2 class now, because none of his mx2 competitors are there to compare with.
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Bunch of world champion vets picking on kids all of whom have never won a major national championship!!! Look at the 450 class. Pretty much all...
Bunch of world champion vets picking on kids all of whom have never won a major national championship!!! Look at the 450 class. Pretty much all Americans. I think the state of U.S. mx is fine. Or at least way better than the state of this site. Which is full of trolls who do nothing but fish all day to piss someone off. Pretty sad what this place has turned into. Some of you 40 year old never-beens need to get a life off the internet.
3 of the top 5 in the 450's are not American.

Just sayin'.
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Pourcel, Rattray, and Searle weren't 450 racers in Europe so I don't get how it is even close to the same thing as sending Villopoto and James to race the MX2 class.
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prozach wrote:
Bunch of world champion vets picking on kids all of whom have never won a major national championship!!! Look at the 450 class. Pretty much all...
Bunch of world champion vets picking on kids all of whom have never won a major national championship!!! Look at the 450 class. Pretty much all Americans. I think the state of U.S. mx is fine. Or at least way better than the state of this site. Which is full of trolls who do nothing but fish all day to piss someone off. Pretty sad what this place has turned into. Some of you 40 year old never-beens need to get a life off the internet.
Bunch of world champion vets picking on kids all of whom have never won a major national championship!!!

So, either the 250 class is a true national championship class in which case what's the issue with anyone competing regardless of prior achievements?

Or it's just a support class to allow young guys who have just turned professional a smooth entry into national pro racing, in which case it shouldn't really carry pro national championship status.

Which is it?
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The imports had a good day at High Point.............do we really have to try to hash this out every 5 days. I think the American fans gave the GP riders a lot respect regarding the Glen Helen GP.

Two summers in a row our fastest two riders are not racing. I hope Villo and Stewy can find their way to Colorado in September, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Stewart doesn´t care about a championship, why would he race a race where there is no money, only pride?
RV would if he´s healthy, I reckon. He´s a good bloke
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Sunhouse wrote:
Stewart doesn´t care about a championship, why would he race a race where there is no money, only pride? RV would if he´s healthy, I reckon...
Stewart doesn´t care about a championship, why would he race a race where there is no money, only pride?
RV would if he´s healthy, I reckon. He´s a good bloke
Would you rather make 10 million a yr or win a championship? I am not a fan of what he has going on but a guy like Stewart should get paid to race a exhibition race. He is the only guy that can move the numbers at the gate. On top of that Pride does not pay the bills and from what I see on Bubba's world that kid has some serious bills.
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You know what, I don´t know. I PAY to ride. He gets paid to do it, and then he only races half a series. Coincidently the series that pays the best. If you´re not there, you simply can´t be the best.

A good lawyer does his best and works 24/7, even though he doesn´t need the money. A big or important case is the ultimate, even if it doesn´t pay well. When lawyers seem to have more occupational pride then athletes competing in what is pretty much a hobby - we´re doomed as a sport!
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Pro circuit own the 250 class you mean
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WideOpen wrote:
Would you rather make 10 million a yr or win a championship? I am not a fan of what he has going on but a guy...
Would you rather make 10 million a yr or win a championship? I am not a fan of what he has going on but a guy like Stewart should get paid to race a exhibition race. He is the only guy that can move the numbers at the gate. On top of that Pride does not pay the bills and from what I see on Bubba's world that kid has some serious bills.
someone should just delete your account.......
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ill just say this with stewart, its his job. however he wants to do it is up to him. who in the hell wouldnt take the same pay for half the work?
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USA owned the bottom of the standing after lap 9 at the USGP, every host nation rider except Baker dropped 2 seconds a lap after lap 9 which is around the 30 min mark, a definite sign of lack of strategy and endurance. The host country is not used to a brutal GP race strategy and fall on their faces. Baker held a good tempo and had some very good times after lap 9 like a GP rider. The host nation should give this kid some praise, he was the only one who stepped up to the GP level except 800 who dropped off also but did place well.Here`s the lap chart analysis of Baker, Osborne, Anstie for a comparison.

.585 Baker Travis
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Lap Laptime Section 1 Section 2 Section 3
1 2:27.708 0:52.826 0:47.914 0:46.966
2 2:25.488 0:52.060 0:47.119 0:46.307
3 2:25.410 0:52.016 0:46.920 0:46.472
4 2:23.994 0:51.278 0:46.664 0:46.050
5 2:24.069 0:50.926 0:47.087 0:46.054
6 2:25.209 0:51.921 0:46.378 0:46.908
7 2:24.488 0:50.770 0:47.440 0:46.276
8 2:24.011 0:50.870 0:46.504 0:46.635
9 2:23.168 0:49.936 0:46.940 0:46.290
10 2:25.098 0:51.922 0:46.652 0:46.522
11 2:24.261 0:51.088 0:47.155 0:46.016
12 2:23.882 0:50.765 0:46.639 0:46.476
13 2:24.077 0:50.161 0:46.785 0:47.129
14 2:24.838 0:50.726 0:46.985 0:47.125
15 2:24.700 0:50.693 0:46.927 0:47.078
16 2:30.558 0:53.297 0:49.112 0:48.147

338 Osborne Zach
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Lap Laptime Section 1 Section 2 Section 3
1 2:25.545 0:52.516 0:46.390 0:46.637
2 2:23.497 0:51.317 0:46.145 0:46.033
3 2:23.422 0:50.297 0:46.936 0:46.187
4 2:24.516 0:51.154 0:46.284 0:47.076
5 2:23.206 0:51.156 0:46.487 0:45.561
6 2:25.732 0:51.746 0:47.389 0:46.595
7 2:26.706 0:52.944 0:47.015 0:46.745
8 2:27.210 0:51.548 0:48.968 0:46.692
9 2:26.407 0:52.299 0:47.119 0:46.987
10 2:24.397 0:51.482 0:46.851 0:46.062
11 2:23.674 0:50.962 0:46.703 0:46.007
12 2:23.881 0:51.157 0:46.652 0:46.070
13 2:24.871 0:50.601 0:47.782 0:46.486
14 2:24.063 0:51.032 0:46.978 0:46.051
15 2:24.125 0:51.017 0:47.057 0:46.049
16 2:27.624 0:51.665 0:47.997 0:47.960

148 Anstie Max
Yamaha
Lap Laptime Section 1 Section 2 Section 3
1 2:28.226 0:52.939 0:48.089 0:47.196
2 2:26.003 0:51.715 0:46.972 0:47.314
3 2:26.278 0:52.935 0:46.497 0:46.844
4 2:25.610 0:51.961 0:46.963 0:46.684
5 2:26.422 0:53.081 0:47.153 0:46.186
6 2:27.460 0:52.714 0:47.529 0:47.215
7 2:27.604 0:52.415 0:48.147 0:47.040
8 2:28.875 0:53.079 0:48.449 0:47.345
9 2:28.325 0:52.536 0:48.616 0:47.171
10 2:30.757 0:52.900 0:49.364 0:48.491
11 2:31.446 0:54.136 0:49.455 0:47.853
12 2:34.912 0:55.089 0:51.117 0:48.704
13 2:36.335 0:56.019 0:51.399 0:48.915
14 2:35.558 0:54.977 0:51.113 0:49.466
15 2:37.637 0:56.382 0:51.392 0:49.861
16 2:41.167 0:56.976 0:52.165 0:52.024
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Sloan , learn to read lap charts.. you will not look like a inexperienced sniveler

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Sloan , learn to read lap charts.. you will not look like a inexperienced sniveler
I don't even understand what you are trying to prove? Are you saying that all American 250 riders are slow and out of shape because a few privateers showed up at a GP and didn't do that great?
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I was under the impression they were no-names as referred to in this forum, remember that Osborne was refered to as a no-name rider in this forum also because he had to go to the GP`s to get a ride,
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Team Euro wrote:
I was under the impression they were no-names as referred to in this forum, remember that Osborne was refered to as a no-name rider in this...
I was under the impression they were no-names as referred to in this forum, remember that Osborne was refered to as a no-name rider in this forum also because he had to go to the GP`s to get a ride,
Osborne would struggle to get a top 10 in the Nationals.
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Team Euro wrote:
Sloan , learn to read lap charts.. you will not look like a inexperienced sniveler
as opposed to yourself, a champion sniveler.
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Outsider wrote:
[img]https://www3.hants.gov.uk/sandbags-2.jpg[/img]
Yup, you nailed it.
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As long as the 250 class is a stand alone c-ship and there is no maximum age limit then I don't see how ANY professional racer can be considered a sandbagger. There is far more sandbagging at the local levels of moto.
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I understand what and why people are saying about the sandbagging...but it is a professional sport...if they need more time in the AM ranks...so be it but don't bitch cause there's some experienced fast dudes in yer class. This is exactly why there should be a 125 entry/support level c-ship.
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plowboy wrote:
As long as the 250 class is a stand alone c-ship and there is no maximum age limit then I don't see how ANY professional racer...
As long as the 250 class is a stand alone c-ship and there is no maximum age limit then I don't see how ANY professional racer can be considered a sandbagger. There is far more sandbagging at the local levels of moto.
It really is self-explanantory and you, obviuously, understand that; and, the idea that it's a Stand-Alone c'chip has nothing to do with it.

The best part?

When a "kid" like Tomac hands them, the 'baggers, their collective ASS!

The point is: There's racin' for a Check and then there's racin' to be the Best.

Are the 'baggers racin' to be the best...for Multiple Years in the "Lites"...?

There's a need for a better "Pointing Out" rule & it, too, can have it's down-side.

I'm jus' sayin'...
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so the brits want to put a canadian on their mxdn team ??

that is kinda funny ! .... a once proud motocross nation , now reduced to poaching other countries talent for their mxdn team . now that i think about it .... it is mostly just sad and pathetic . but still a little funny .


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Actaully, I think the kid is a Scotsman.
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prozach wrote:
Bunch of world champion vets picking on kids all of whom have never won a major national championship!!! Look at the 450 class. Pretty much all...
Bunch of world champion vets picking on kids all of whom have never won a major national championship!!! Look at the 450 class. Pretty much all Americans. I think the state of U.S. mx is fine. Or at least way better than the state of this site. Which is full of trolls who do nothing but fish all day to piss someone off. Pretty sad what this place has turned into. Some of you 40 year old never-beens need to get a life off the internet.
Think you may want to have another look at the 450 Class!

All Americans?

Dungey (yes)
Metty (Aussie)
Alessi (Yes but judging from this board pretty much disowned by most Americans lol)
Reed (Aussie)
Townley (Kiwi)

AMA is the new world championship in both classes!
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eddie wrote:
so the brits want to put a canadian on their mxdn team ?? that is kinda funny ! .... a once proud motocross nation , now...
so the brits want to put a canadian on their mxdn team ??

that is kinda funny ! .... a once proud motocross nation , now reduced to poaching other countries talent for their mxdn team . now that i think about it .... it is mostly just sad and pathetic . but still a little funny .


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Check his birth certificate and you'll see he was born in Scotland!

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