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6/13/2010 9:19 AM


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250 Class Championship Standings

1. Christophe Pourcel, France, Kawasaki, 129
2. Tyla Rattray, South Africa, Kawasaki, 102
3. Dean Wilson, Canada, Kawasaki, 100
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6/13/2010 9:51 AM

I'll will say nothing about the GP riders being 1 and 2 and the fact that it looks like a GP from 2007 without the fastest rider Cairoli... are the nationals 4 years behind the GPs? lol jk Americans....ha ha

The Uk are looking good for the Nations with Simpson, Searle, Wilson, Anderson, Mackenzie (provided he races some GPs), Sword, Nicholls all capable of good results.

Right now my money would be on Wilson in MX2 with Simpson and Searle/Anderson on the MX1/MX3

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6/13/2010 10:01 AM

Yeah, I think we should send Ryan Villopto and James Stewart to race the MX2 class so we can talk about how fast the AMA riders are. wink

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Best Regards,

~ J. Sloan

6/13/2010 10:22 AM

Wilson is crazy if he doesn't race for team GB... What's he gonna do for Canada, ride B-Finals all the time?!?!

Searle, Wilson. Anstie would be a great British Team...

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6/13/2010 10:24 AM

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6/13/2010 10:36 AM
Edited Date/Time: 6/13/2010 10:36 AM

hahah

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6/13/2010 10:57 AM

J. Sloan wrote:

Yeah, I think we should send Ryan Villopto and James Stewart to race the MX2 class so we can talk about how fast the AMA ...more

That's funny, I thought the 250 class had national championship status the same as the 450 class.

Or are you suggesting that it's really a support class? If that's the case why does almost every foreign rider to come to the US start off in the 250 class regardless of what overseas national or world championship achievements they have?

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6/13/2010 11:23 AM

J. Sloan wrote:

Yeah, I think we should send Ryan Villopto and James Stewart to race the MX2 class so we can talk about how fast the AMA ...more

So you have to send injured/retired guys from a different class to show the speed of the 250s? Ouch!

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6/13/2010 11:27 AM

J. Sloan wrote:

Yeah, I think we should send Ryan Villopto and James Stewart to race the MX2 class so we can talk about how fast the AMA ...more

Sunhouse wrote:

So you have to send injured/retired guys from a different class to show the speed of the 250s? Ouch!

A healed up Villo, and a "release note" Stewart would more than likely win the MX2 class in a dominating fashion.

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Best Regards,

~ J. Sloan

6/13/2010 11:39 AM

Bunch of world champion vets picking on kids all of whom have never won a major national championship!!! Look at the 450 class. Pretty much all Americans. I think the state of U.S. mx is fine. Or at least way better than the state of this site. Which is full of trolls who do nothing but fish all day to piss someone off. Pretty sad what this place has turned into. Some of you 40 year old never-beens need to get a life off the internet.

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6/13/2010 11:40 AM

Are they racing? No, they are not, hence your guessing is irrelevant.
There is also nothing suggesting Villo could dominate the mx2 class now, because none of his mx2 competitors are there to compare with.

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6/13/2010 11:43 AM

prozach wrote:

Bunch of world champion vets picking on kids all of whom have never won a major national championship!!! Look at the 450 ...more

3 of the top 5 in the 450's are not American.

Just sayin'.

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6/13/2010 11:47 AM

Pourcel, Rattray, and Searle weren't 450 racers in Europe so I don't get how it is even close to the same thing as sending Villopoto and James to race the MX2 class.

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6/13/2010 11:53 AM

prozach wrote:

Bunch of world champion vets picking on kids all of whom have never won a major national championship!!! Look at the 450 ...more

Bunch of world champion vets picking on kids all of whom have never won a major national championship!!!

So, either the 250 class is a true national championship class in which case what's the issue with anyone competing regardless of prior achievements?

Or it's just a support class to allow young guys who have just turned professional a smooth entry into national pro racing, in which case it shouldn't really carry pro national championship status.

Which is it?
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6/13/2010 12:02 PM

The imports had a good day at High Point.............do we really have to try to hash this out every 5 days. I think the American fans gave the GP riders a lot respect regarding the Glen Helen GP.

Two summers in a row our fastest two riders are not racing. I hope Villo and Stewy can find their way to Colorado in September, but I'm not holding my breath.

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6/13/2010 12:05 PM

Stewart doesn´t care about a championship, why would he race a race where there is no money, only pride?
RV would if he´s healthy, I reckon. He´s a good bloke

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6/13/2010 12:13 PM

J. Sloan wrote:

Yeah, I think we should send Ryan Villopto and James Stewart to race the MX2 class so we can talk about how fast the AMA ...more

I think so too, would be great to see this guys in the GP´s

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6/13/2010 12:41 PM

Sunhouse wrote:

Stewart doesnt care about a championship, why would he race a race where there is no money, only pride?
RV would if hes ...more

Would you rather make 10 million a yr or win a championship? I am not a fan of what he has going on but a guy like Stewart should get paid to race a exhibition race. He is the only guy that can move the numbers at the gate. On top of that Pride does not pay the bills and from what I see on Bubba's world that kid has some serious bills.

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6/13/2010 12:51 PM

You know what, I don´t know. I PAY to ride. He gets paid to do it, and then he only races half a series. Coincidently the series that pays the best. If you´re not there, you simply can´t be the best.

A good lawyer does his best and works 24/7, even though he doesn´t need the money. A big or important case is the ultimate, even if it doesn´t pay well. When lawyers seem to have more occupational pride then athletes competing in what is pretty much a hobby - we´re doomed as a sport!

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6/13/2010 1:10 PM

Pro circuit own the 250 class you mean

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6/13/2010 1:16 PM

WideOpen wrote:

Would you rather make 10 million a yr or win a championship? I am not a fan of what he has going on but a guy like Stewart ...more

someone should just delete your account.......

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6/13/2010 2:40 PM

ill just say this with stewart, its his job. however he wants to do it is up to him. who in the hell wouldnt take the same pay for half the work?

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6/13/2010 4:38 PM

USA owned the bottom of the standing after lap 9 at the USGP, every host nation rider except Baker dropped 2 seconds a lap after lap 9 which is around the 30 min mark, a definite sign of lack of strategy and endurance. The host country is not used to a brutal GP race strategy and fall on their faces. Baker held a good tempo and had some very good times after lap 9 like a GP rider. The host nation should give this kid some praise, he was the only one who stepped up to the GP level except 800 who dropped off also but did place well.Here`s the lap chart analysis of Baker, Osborne, Anstie for a comparison.

.585 Baker Travis
Yamaha
Lap Laptime Section 1 Section 2 Section 3
1 2:27.708 0:52.826 0:47.914 0:46.966
2 2:25.488 0:52.060 0:47.119 0:46.307
3 2:25.410 0:52.016 0:46.920 0:46.472
4 2:23.994 0:51.278 0:46.664 0:46.050
5 2:24.069 0:50.926 0:47.087 0:46.054
6 2:25.209 0:51.921 0:46.378 0:46.908
7 2:24.488 0:50.770 0:47.440 0:46.276
8 2:24.011 0:50.870 0:46.504 0:46.635
9 2:23.168 0:49.936 0:46.940 0:46.290
10 2:25.098 0:51.922 0:46.652 0:46.522
11 2:24.261 0:51.088 0:47.155 0:46.016
12 2:23.882 0:50.765 0:46.639 0:46.476
13 2:24.077 0:50.161 0:46.785 0:47.129
14 2:24.838 0:50.726 0:46.985 0:47.125
15 2:24.700 0:50.693 0:46.927 0:47.078
16 2:30.558 0:53.297 0:49.112 0:48.147

338 Osborne Zach
Yamaha
Lap Laptime Section 1 Section 2 Section 3
1 2:25.545 0:52.516 0:46.390 0:46.637
2 2:23.497 0:51.317 0:46.145 0:46.033
3 2:23.422 0:50.297 0:46.936 0:46.187
4 2:24.516 0:51.154 0:46.284 0:47.076
5 2:23.206 0:51.156 0:46.487 0:45.561
6 2:25.732 0:51.746 0:47.389 0:46.595
7 2:26.706 0:52.944 0:47.015 0:46.745
8 2:27.210 0:51.548 0:48.968 0:46.692
9 2:26.407 0:52.299 0:47.119 0:46.987
10 2:24.397 0:51.482 0:46.851 0:46.062
11 2:23.674 0:50.962 0:46.703 0:46.007
12 2:23.881 0:51.157 0:46.652 0:46.070
13 2:24.871 0:50.601 0:47.782 0:46.486
14 2:24.063 0:51.032 0:46.978 0:46.051
15 2:24.125 0:51.017 0:47.057 0:46.049
16 2:27.624 0:51.665 0:47.997 0:47.960

148 Anstie Max
Yamaha
Lap Laptime Section 1 Section 2 Section 3
1 2:28.226 0:52.939 0:48.089 0:47.196
2 2:26.003 0:51.715 0:46.972 0:47.314
3 2:26.278 0:52.935 0:46.497 0:46.844
4 2:25.610 0:51.961 0:46.963 0:46.684
5 2:26.422 0:53.081 0:47.153 0:46.186
6 2:27.460 0:52.714 0:47.529 0:47.215
7 2:27.604 0:52.415 0:48.147 0:47.040
8 2:28.875 0:53.079 0:48.449 0:47.345
9 2:28.325 0:52.536 0:48.616 0:47.171
10 2:30.757 0:52.900 0:49.364 0:48.491
11 2:31.446 0:54.136 0:49.455 0:47.853
12 2:34.912 0:55.089 0:51.117 0:48.704
13 2:36.335 0:56.019 0:51.399 0:48.915
14 2:35.558 0:54.977 0:51.113 0:49.466
15 2:37.637 0:56.382 0:51.392 0:49.861
16 2:41.167 0:56.976 0:52.165 0:52.024

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6/13/2010 4:39 PM

Team Euro wrote:

USA owned the bottom of the standing after lap 9 at the USGP, every host nation rider except Baker dropped 2 seconds a lap ...more

You're full of stupid.

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Best Regards,

~ J. Sloan

6/13/2010 4:44 PM

Sloan , learn to read lap charts.. you will not look like a inexperienced sniveler

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6/13/2010 4:49 PM

Team Euro wrote:

Sloan , learn to read lap charts.. you will not look like a inexperienced sniveler

I don't even understand what you are trying to prove? Are you saying that all American 250 riders are slow and out of shape because a few privateers showed up at a GP and didn't do that great?

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6/13/2010 4:56 PM

Team Euro wrote:

Sloan , learn to read lap charts.. you will not look like a inexperienced sniveler

Look PAST the lap charts and you won't look so silly.

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Best Regards,

~ J. Sloan

6/13/2010 5:00 PM

I was under the impression they were no-names as referred to in this forum, remember that Osborne was refered to as a no-name rider in this forum also because he had to go to the GP`s to get a ride,

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6/13/2010 5:11 PM

Team Euro wrote:

I was under the impression they were no-names as referred to in this forum, remember that Osborne was refered to as a no-name ...more

Osborne would struggle to get a top 10 in the Nationals.

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6/13/2010 5:34 PM

Team Euro wrote:

Sloan , learn to read lap charts.. you will not look like a inexperienced sniveler

as opposed to yourself, a champion sniveler.

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