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10/1/2017 9:41 AM
Edited Date/Time: 10/1/2017 9:43 AM

Reading some of the threads and social media... If you're blaming Roger the foreigner's for picking Seely in the mud, or Covington's effort, or anything else, get off it. Shit happens.

There might not be a more batshit crazy event around the world than this one and the perfect days are basically hen's teeth, there is always good and bad luck for each team, mostly bad.... That's why it's such an awesome event.

Regardless, you should be thanking your guys for going, cause a lot of them and their teams evidently don't give a shit anymore, and the MXdN is better when USA is there, even if they don't win.

Tough shit, sometimes it doesn't go the way you want, it has for you guys more than anyone else though, so don't be a dick about it. There's always next year!

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Cheers, Crush
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10/1/2017 9:45 AM

Seely was the best available option for MX1. Can't be mad about that.

Osborne was obvious for MX2.

Covington is the one that was the big question mark. They probably just hoped he'd put in one good moto and have his other be the throwaway.

I was questioning that one from the start. If available, it might have been better to move Plessinger up to the 450.

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10/1/2017 9:48 AM
Edited Date/Time: 10/1/2017 9:49 AM

TDeath21 wrote:

Seely was the best available option for MX1. Can't be mad about that.

Osborne was obvious for MX2.

Covington is the one that was the big question mark. They probably just hoped he'd put in one good moto and have his other be the throwaway.

I was questioning that one from the start. If available, it might have been better to move Plessinger up to the 450.

Plessinger had foot surgery, he wasn't available.

J-Mart, A-Mart and Savatgy weren't available either.

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10/1/2017 9:50 AM

TDeath21 wrote:

Seely was the best available option for MX1. Can't be mad about that.

Osborne was obvious for MX2.

Covington is the one that was the big question mark. They probably just hoped he'd put in one good moto and have his other be the throwaway.

I was questioning that one from the start. If available, it might have been better to move Plessinger up to the 450.

ML512 wrote:

Plessinger had foot surgery, he wasn't available.

J-Mart, A-Mart and Savatgy weren't available either.

Well then I guess that was the best we had. Didn't realize he had surgery. Crazy how far down we had to go to get riders.

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10/1/2017 9:52 AM
Edited Date/Time: 10/1/2017 9:52 AM

I don't care if you don't agree with the picks, but the WTF and fuck Roger and this and that. Sheesh.

It really might be one of the hardest one day events to win in any sport. 6 motos, 6 starts, 40 riders on different sized bikes, some of whom probably shouldn't be on the same track together and oh yeah, you start the weekend with a ping pong ball gate lotto.

So many opportunities for bad luck and often not even the winners get of scot-free. You have a core group of people who want to send a team, who try hard to convince others who basically have shit canned it for a shot at SX. Fuck that. This event matters, get behind em, especially when they're down.

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Cheers, Crush
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10/1/2017 9:53 AM

It speaks more towards the overall health of the sport here in the US. The guys who went get my stamp of approval simply because they stepped up to the plate. The Euros have been kicking the US riders ass for years so why would we expect this race to be any different? These small countries seem to pursue MX with a passion, something we used to do quite well.

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10/1/2017 9:55 AM

Americans mate...

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10/1/2017 9:56 AM

ML512 wrote:

Plessinger had foot surgery, he wasn't available.

J-Mart, A-Mart and Savatgy weren't available either.

I was hoping Christian Craig would get picked but I don't pretend to know more than those who actually choose the team. Maybe there'd been another busted Honda had Craig been there, lol.

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10/1/2017 9:57 AM
Edited Date/Time: 10/1/2017 9:58 AM

68 wrote:

Americans mate...

Yep! US fans.....if they don't win, they lost! There's no way in the world I would do that race! It's just different here. BUT you have to admit the rest of the world revels and try's to rub it in that they lost also

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10/1/2017 9:58 AM
Edited Date/Time: 10/1/2017 9:58 AM

Hint: It's Social Media, so everyone hates everything. They bitch about Rainbows and Spring days. Who cares?

It's not like U.S. fans are any worse than the rest of the world.

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10/1/2017 9:59 AM

That was really good racing to watch! Anstie! Wow!!!

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10/1/2017 9:59 AM

68 wrote:

Americans mate...

I laughed way too hard at this.

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Are you smart enough to buy a bike that costs less, weighs less, makes more horsepower per cubic centimeter, can be rebuilt for recycled aluminum can money and is giggle inducing? It is hard to believe that the American riding public flunks this test en masse. How stupid are you?

10/1/2017 10:00 AM

The Honda breakdowns were huge issue, causing Seely's 2xDNFs. He was riding very well.
TC could have done better.
Zach rode great.
That's moto.
Better luck next year t Red Buuuuud.

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10/1/2017 10:09 AM

I dont care if they picked 3 "C" class riders from anywhere in the US. They were there to represent our country and bashing them is disrespectful.

Of course I am bummed we didnt win.. Yes it sucks.. IMHO shit talking is for losers. Win or lose with dignity. They might be our representatives on the track but we are the representatives here on this forum. When you act like a sore loser we all look bad.... Might want to remember that.........

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10/1/2017 10:09 AM

USA will bring a good team to red bud in 2018, win on home turf, and all of a sudden the race will be relevant and important again.

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10/1/2017 10:10 AM

Literally arguing with a dick on Seely's IG now...ughh these shitty fans irk me...

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10/1/2017 10:11 AM

I may have had some negativity but will always be a fan of the riders we send. Better luck next year. ZO you absolutely killed it with Saturday’s ride and Sunday’s ride. Seely tough luck with the DNFs and TC just had a bad day. Onto next year

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10/1/2017 10:16 AM

They did their best. Seely would’ve done fine if not for his mechanicals. No reason for the fans to be upset. Osborne did what we thought he would do. Great! TC had some rough motos. It’s one race out of the year. Get over it. Home soil at Red Bud next year will be fine. Even if they send the same team.

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10/1/2017 10:17 AM

ML512 wrote:

Literally arguing with a dick on Seely's IG now...ughh these shitty fans irk me...

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10/1/2017 10:19 AM

ML512 wrote:

Literally arguing with a dick on Seely's IG now...ughh these shitty fans irk me...

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Right? It's only because the embarrassment of riches you guys have that the expectation is there, but it's just shitty blaming it on Roger for his rider choices, or gate choice, or Seely for sucking in the mud, or Covington for choking.

Looking at Facebook and IG comments right now it's fucking no-wonder people are pulling out. Their team doesn't want them to go, they get hammered if they lose. Meanwhile, the rest of the world wants to race the USA riders and look how special it is at the end of the day. 20-40 thousand drunk fans with chainsaws and flags screaming for their boys. Fuckin crazy.

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Cheers, Crush
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10/1/2017 10:21 AM

TDeath21 wrote:

Seely was the best available option for MX1. Can't be mad about that.

Osborne was obvious for MX2.

Covington is the one that was the big question mark. They probably just hoped he'd put in one good moto and have his other be the throwaway.

I was questioning that one from the start. If available, it might have been better to move Plessinger up to the 450.

ML512 wrote:

Plessinger had foot surgery, he wasn't available.

J-Mart, A-Mart and Savatgy weren't available either.

J- Mart wanted to go badly.

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10/1/2017 10:24 AM

Too bad the dirtbags that bitch get so much attention. The problem is they attract others like themselves and pretty soon they have formed an ignorant mob of dipshits. Ugh.

There are many more people that are proud of our team and their efforts, and the team should know that and also know that paying attention to these POS with the attitude is a waste of time and energy.


Go U.S.A.

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10/1/2017 10:28 AM

ML512 wrote:

Literally arguing with a dick on Seely's IG now...ughh these shitty fans irk me...

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Crush wrote:

Right? It's only because the embarrassment of riches you guys have that the expectation is there, but it's just shitty blaming it on Roger for his rider choices, or gate choice, or Seely for sucking in the mud, or Covington for choking.

Looking at Facebook and IG comments right now it's fucking no-wonder people are pulling out. Their team doesn't want them to go, they get hammered if they lose. Meanwhile, the rest of the world wants to race the USA riders and look how special it is at the end of the day. 20-40 thousand drunk fans with chainsaws and flags screaming for their boys. Fuckin crazy.

Okay, my war was slightly worth it. Dude deleted all his comments...feeling slightly accomplished this morning.laughing

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10/1/2017 10:29 AM

Park Boys wrote:

J- Mart wanted to go badly.

True! I heard the same thing.

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10/1/2017 10:30 AM

Crush wrote:

Reading some of the threads and social media... If you're blaming Roger the foreigner's for picking Seely in the mud, or Covington's effort, or anything else, get off it. Shit happens.

There might not be a more batshit crazy event around the world than this one and the perfect days are basically hen's teeth, there is always good and bad luck for each team, mostly bad.... That's why it's such an awesome event.

Regardless, you should be thanking your guys for going, cause a lot of them and their teams evidently don't give a shit anymore, and the MXdN is better when USA is there, even if they don't win.

Tough shit, sometimes it doesn't go the way you want, it has for you guys more than anyone else though, so don't be a dick about it. There's always next year!

Well said, people complain so fuckin much and search for where to place blame.

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10/1/2017 10:30 AM
Edited Date/Time: 10/1/2017 11:06 AM

There's nothing wrong with pointing out that a rider had an "off day" when they clearly had an off day. The one that mildly irritates me (and this goes for fans from all countries) is the "We should've sent so and so instead" fans. It's like after the result everyone suddenly becomes clairvoyant... Of course there's always debates and arguments for picking one rider over another - but unless it's a situation where an AVAILABLE, superior rider is clearly being left at home over a worse one etc, then there's little to be gained by the so called benefits of hindsight.

Osborne is a champion and should've performed, and he did. Seely very likely would've been at least a top 10 factor but was scuppered by forces beyond his control. Covington had what could be described as an off day. That doesn't mean the decision making behind his selection was wrong. Cairoli is a 9 time champion and he (by his standards) also had an off day. Full respect to all those guys, it takes balls to put yourself out there in front of thousands of people and risk your wellbeing.

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10/1/2017 10:30 AM
Edited Date/Time: 10/1/2017 10:31 AM

I'm starting to not like this event, not because we aren't winning but because I hate how much pressure it puts on top U.S. based athletes.

All the hate really sucks ass, I thought Zach did a phenomenal job, Covington held deano off like a gangster for a while, Seely obviously had some stuff to deal with but all in all for 37th gate pick I thought we did what we could and did even better than initially expected (after gate pick)

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10/1/2017 10:31 AM

TDeath21 wrote:

Seely was the best available option for MX1. Can't be mad about that.

Osborne was obvious for MX2.

Covington is the one that was the big question mark. They probably just hoped he'd put in one good moto and have his other be the throwaway.

I was questioning that one from the start. If available, it might have been better to move Plessinger up to the 450.

ML512 wrote:

Plessinger had foot surgery, he wasn't available.

J-Mart, A-Mart and Savatgy weren't available either.

Park Boys wrote:

J- Mart wanted to go badly.

Yeah and joey was complaining on twitter nobody spoke to him about going

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10/1/2017 10:35 AM

Motocross83 wrote:

There's nothing wrong with pointing out that a rider had an "off day" when they clearly had an off day. The one that mildly irritates me (and this goes for fans from all countries) is the "We should've sent so and so instead" fans. It's like after the result everyone suddenly becomes clairvoyant... Of course there's always debates and arguments for picking one rider over another - but unless it's a situation where an AVAILABLE, superior rider is clearly being left at home over a worse one etc, then there's little to be gained by the so called benefits of hindsight.

Osborne is a champion and should've performed, and he did. Seely very likely would've been at least a top 10 factor but was scuppered by forces beyond his control. Covington had what could be described as an off day. That doesn't mean the decision making behind his selection was wrong. Cairoli is a 9 time champion and he (by his standards) also had an off day. Full respect to all those guys, it takes balls to put yourself out there in front of thousands of people and risk your wellbeing.

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Don't get me wrong. Bench racing is one of the things that makes Moto so cool.

Just the cunty attitude. Like Roger is a double crossing foreigner doing the wrong thing, or this person choked or whatever. There's a pretty obvious difference to me, and it's also obvious how much better it is when the USA are there. Anything that detracts from that is bad news.

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Cheers, Crush
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10/1/2017 10:36 AM

ML512 wrote:

Plessinger had foot surgery, he wasn't available.

J-Mart, A-Mart and Savatgy weren't available either.

Park Boys wrote:

J- Mart wanted to go badly.

cjg23307 wrote:

True! I heard the same thing.

I was told opposite on J-Mart but if he did, I'm bummed he wasn't asked or talked to about it.

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