Two-strokes back in 2011 US Supercross !

motogrady wrote:

Since the 1800's, companies have held exhibitions and races to prove, promote and sell what they make. Fulton, Ford, H-D, Evinrude, they all did it. And...

Since the 1800's, companies have held exhibitions and races to prove, promote and sell
what they make. Fulton, Ford, H-D, Evinrude, they all did it.

And when you look at it, that's all the AMA series is.

Until those white shirts over there in Japan feel like making and promoting them again,
they'll back and keep keep the rules stacked in favor to what they want to make.

Another 5 or 10 years, as it is, they just might get their way.................

GuyB wrote:

There's no need for a sticky. Two-stroke fans will keep this up on the front page, no problem.

GuyB wrote:

There's no need for a sticky. Two-stroke fans will keep this up on the front page, no problem.

Track and Trail wrote:

Haha I can see what you mean GuyB. This thing looks like a monster. It amazes me to witness the level of enthusiasm towards anything two-stroke...

Haha I can see what you mean GuyB. This thing looks like a monster. It amazes me to witness the level of enthusiasm towards anything two-stroke around here. I love it, vive le Vital and vive la France!

motogrady wrote:

Since the 1800's, companies have held exhibitions and races to prove, promote and sell what they make. Fulton, Ford, H-D, Evinrude, they all did it. And...

Since the 1800's, companies have held exhibitions and races to prove, promote and sell
what they make. Fulton, Ford, H-D, Evinrude, they all did it.

And when you look at it, that's all the AMA series is.

Until those white shirts over there in Japan feel like making and promoting them again,
they'll back and keep keep the rules stacked in favor to what they want to make.

Another 5 or 10 years, as it is, they just might get their way.................

KAWboy14 wrote:

....HELLO....HELLO, is anyone home? the [b]united states government doesnt want 2 stroke [/b]anything's...lawn mowers, weedeaters, blowers, boats and yes motorcycles, they outlawed them long ago for...

....HELLO....HELLO, is anyone home?

the united states government doesnt want 2 stroke anything's...lawn mowers, weedeaters, blowers, boats and yes motorcycles, they outlawed them long ago for the street and now they are killing them for everything else!

the ama will let them run anything thing they want to run!

Track and Trail wrote:

From todays racerhead: "Cédric Soubeyras, the very fast French rider on the KTM 250 SX two-smoke, has made a deal with Moto Concepts Yamaha and team...

From todays racerhead:

"Cédric Soubeyras, the very fast French rider on the KTM 250 SX two-smoke, has made a deal with Moto Concepts Yamaha and team manager David Vuillemin to race six rounds of the Monster Energy AMA Supercross tour, beginning with Phoenix."

Come on DC, make it clear to the people that he's going to continue riding a two stroke. Make a big deal out of it, the interest is obviously there.

Why wouldn't this thread be allowed as a sticky?

GuyB wrote:

There's no need for a sticky. Two-stroke fans will keep this up on the front page, no problem.

motogrady wrote:

Since the 1800's, companies have held exhibitions and races to prove, promote and sell what they make. Fulton, Ford, H-D, Evinrude, they all did it. And...

Since the 1800's, companies have held exhibitions and races to prove, promote and sell
what they make. Fulton, Ford, H-D, Evinrude, they all did it.

And when you look at it, that's all the AMA series is.

Until those white shirts over there in Japan feel like making and promoting them again,
they'll back and keep keep the rules stacked in favor to what they want to make.

Another 5 or 10 years, as it is, they just might get their way.................

KAWboy14 wrote:

....HELLO....HELLO, is anyone home? the [b]united states government doesnt want 2 stroke [/b]anything's...lawn mowers, weedeaters, blowers, boats and yes motorcycles, they outlawed them long ago for...

....HELLO....HELLO, is anyone home?

the united states government doesnt want 2 stroke anything's...lawn mowers, weedeaters, blowers, boats and yes motorcycles, they outlawed them long ago for the street and now they are killing them for everything else!

the ama will let them run anything thing they want to run!

BadExample wrote:

[img]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/sethenslow/cedric2.jpg[/img] Go SOUB SOUB!!!

Go SOUB SOUB!!!

BadExample wrote:

[img]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/sethenslow/cedric2.jpg[/img] Go SOUB SOUB!!!

Go SOUB SOUB!!!

themrtoad wrote:

I will follow this thread with huge interest. Can't wait to see the numbers Cedrics YZ pumps out. Great you are willing to share everything with...

I will follow this thread with huge interest. Can't wait to see the numbers Cedrics YZ pumps out. Great you are willing to share everything with us!

DV you are a clever guy when it comes to marketing. Anda racing in the end is just marketing. I see great things coming to Cedric, your team and modern motocross thanks to this initiative. I think what Cedric did 2010 in the MX1-class was both an impressive performance and clever marketing by Sarholz.

Happy new year to all of you involved

BadExample wrote:

[img]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e77/sethenslow/cedric2.jpg[/img] Go SOUB SOUB!!!

Go SOUB SOUB!!!

BadExample wrote:

Here is some latest numbers from Cédric against the Factory backed 4 stroke. Cédric was riding equipment from KTM Sarholz ( KTM stealership).Numbers don't lie.18. /...

Here is some latest numbers from Cédric against the Factory backed 4 stroke. Cédric was riding equipment from KTM Sarholz ( KTM stealership).Numbers don't lie.



18. / 19. Dezember 2010

SX1

Ergebnis B Zeittraining Samstag DMSB SX 05/10 FIM 297/50 UEM 21/134

Zeitnahme und Auswertung: WIGE PERFORMANCE GmbH, 53520 Meuspath (GER), www.wige-performance.de Seite 1

Zeitnahme-Obfrau: Sonja Hügle, Nürtingen gedruckt : 18.12.2010 - 14:31

ADAC Supercross München

Olympiahalle (350 m)

Samstag, 18.12.2010

Pos # Name NAT Marke Team/Bewerber Rdn Zeit km/h

1 120 Soubeyras Cedric FRA KTM KTM Sarholz Racing Team 15 25.361 51.812

2 109 Boni Matt USA Kawasaki Sturm Racing Team 16 25.628 51.272

3 4 Neugebauer Filip CZ Kawasaki ZAP Kawasaki Elf Team Pfeil 15 26.120 50.306

4 18 Siebler Cole USA Honda Honda-Meyer-Racing-Team 16 26.216 50.122

5 20 Vongsana Khounsith FRA KTM KTM Scott Racing Team 14 26.290 49.981

6 108 Rodrigues Joaquim POR Honda Team Honda Waldmann 15 26.509 49.568

7 129 Sallefranque Josse FRA Yamaha ACMoTeC-Öhlins-MG Sport 12 26.673 49.263

8 23 Peick Weston USA Yamaha ACMoTeC-Öhlins-MG Sport 17 26.732 49.155

9 114 Vanni Julien FRA Honda Team Honda Waldmann 14 26.925 48.802

10 32 Sturm Robert GER Kawasaki MG Sport 15 27.129 48.435

11 21 Terreblanche Shannon RSA Young Force Racing 11 27.968 46.982

12 25 Lafont Yohan FRA KTM KTM Kosak Racing 13 27.980 46.962

13 6 Adrian Andre GER Honda KMP-Racing-team 14 28.314 46.408







Gruppe A:

1. Musquin Mickael (FRA, HON), 25.431

2. Renner Ricky (USA, KAW), 26.011

...3. Catanzaro AJ (USA, KAW), 26.022

4. Pellegrini Angelo (ITA, SUZ), 26.025

...5. Clark Ryan (USA, HON), 26.078

6. Thuresson Filip (SWE, SUZ), 26.194

7. Rombaut Loic (FRA, KAW), 26.247

8. Maier Teddy (USA, KAW), 26.315

9. Sewell Travis (USA, KAW), 26.571

10. Saylor Jakob (USA, SUZ), 26.927

11. Ludwig Stefan (GER, KAW), 28.272

12. Chittaro Manuel (GER, KTM), 28.332



Gruppe B:

1. Soubeyras Cedric (FRA, KTM), 25.361

2. Boni Matt (USA, KAW), 25.628

3. Neugebauer Filip (CZE, KAW), 26.120

4. Siebler Cole (USA, HON), 26.216

5. Vongsana Khounsith (FRA, KTM), 26.290

6. Rodrigues Joaquim (POR, HON), 26.509

7. Sallefranque Josse (FRA, YAM), 26.673

8. Peick Weston (USA, YAM), 26.732

9. Vanni Julien (FRA, HON), 26.925

10. Sturm Robert (GER, KAW), 27.129

11. Terreblanche Shannon (RSA, SUZ), 27.968

12. Lafont Yohan (FRA, KTM), 27.980

13. Adrian Andre (GER, HON), 28.314



Gruppe C:

1. Thomas Jason (USA, SUZ), 26.418

2. Richier Florent (FRA, KAW), 26.440

3. Nemeth Kornel (HUN, SUZ), 26.620

4. Ramette Thomas (FRA, KTM), 26.719

5. Esposti Davide Degli (ITA, SUZ), 26.773

6. Mannevy Cedric (FRA, SUZ), 26.791

7. Sellards Brock (USA, HON), 26.921

8. Johnson Chad (USA, KAW), 27.140



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Void Main wrote:

Actually they're running 250 vs 250 there the way it should be right? That just proves a 2-stroke is better than a 4-stroke.

THE mx addict wrote:

With french wonderkid Cédric Soubeyras !

Team Yamaha Motoconcept, 250YZ, 6 races (from Phoenix to San Diego).

Excellent news !!!

keeptwostrokesalive wrote:

someone is a little grumpy today. Many people have tried to qualify but didnt have the right support backing them up so they could qualify. But...

someone is a little grumpy today. Many people have tried to qualify but didnt have the right support backing them up so they could qualify. But this time motoconcepts is putting an actual two stroke rider on a bike that should easily be able to compete with the four bangers. We dont expect him to make the podium, we just want a solid finish that will show everyone that two strokes can compete against the pigs with the right support and the right rider.

Xracer wrote:

Who remembers when Bubba first came back from injury in 05' on the SR250? I'll need to rummage through my tapes to be sure, but I...

Who remembers when Bubba first came back from injury in 05' on the SR250? I'll need to rummage through my tapes to be sure, but I think it was Jacksonville or maybe Dallas. It was the fastest I've seen anyone ride on an SX track, ever. He passed RC and put 30 yards on him in the first 1/3 lap of their heat race. I've never seen anyone demoralize RC like that (except maybe DV12 at Indy in 02'). I have no doubt that JBS, on that bike, would be giving everyone else fits indoors.

Xracer wrote:

Who remembers when Bubba first came back from injury in 05' on the SR250? I'll need to rummage through my tapes to be sure, but I...

Who remembers when Bubba first came back from injury in 05' on the SR250? I'll need to rummage through my tapes to be sure, but I think it was Jacksonville or maybe Dallas. It was the fastest I've seen anyone ride on an SX track, ever. He passed RC and put 30 yards on him in the first 1/3 lap of their heat race. I've never seen anyone demoralize RC like that (except maybe DV12 at Indy in 02'). I have no doubt that JBS, on that bike, would be giving everyone else fits indoors.

Hank_Thrill wrote:

Xracer wrote:

Who remembers when Bubba first came back from injury in 05' on the SR250? I'll need to rummage through my tapes to be sure, but I...

Who remembers when Bubba first came back from injury in 05' on the SR250? I'll need to rummage through my tapes to be sure, but I think it was Jacksonville or maybe Dallas. It was the fastest I've seen anyone ride on an SX track, ever. He passed RC and put 30 yards on him in the first 1/3 lap of their heat race. I've never seen anyone demoralize RC like that (except maybe DV12 at Indy in 02'). I have no doubt that JBS, on that bike, would be giving everyone else fits indoors.

Hank_Thrill wrote:

keeptwostrokesalive wrote:

Man racing was so much better then than it is now. There is so many more turns and just all around better more exciting racing with...

Man racing was so much better then than it is now. There is so many more turns and just all around better more exciting racing with all the wrecks and passes.

newmann wrote:

I realize I'm a little late to THIS game, and will probably jinx it because that Matthes guy (we know what he is all about) won't...

I realize I'm a little late to THIS game, and will probably jinx it because that Matthes guy (we know what he is all about) won't be clicking. But without reading through all of this, am I to understand that someone will be competing in the 450cc class on a 250cc bike? Why does that just sound stupid? Is there actually a rule book that allows such a thing?

Xracer wrote:

Who remembers when Bubba first came back from injury in 05' on the SR250? I'll need to rummage through my tapes to be sure, but I...

Who remembers when Bubba first came back from injury in 05' on the SR250? I'll need to rummage through my tapes to be sure, but I think it was Jacksonville or maybe Dallas. It was the fastest I've seen anyone ride on an SX track, ever. He passed RC and put 30 yards on him in the first 1/3 lap of their heat race. I've never seen anyone demoralize RC like that (except maybe DV12 at Indy in 02'). I have no doubt that JBS, on that bike, would be giving everyone else fits indoors.

Hank_Thrill wrote: