Two-strokes at the National level

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Forza 8/9/2014 9:13pm
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Look fast! Check out that pipe.
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Great stuff!




But better hope no one at the AMA sees it - apparently they frown on this sort of thing. This might be a quicker way to get a lifetime ban than failing a dozen WADA tests. Wink
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ML512 8/9/2014 9:16pm
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Here he is on a four stroke.

Kyriazis298 8/9/2014 9:17pm
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Yeah 2 strokes are competitive but not with the double displacment rule. a 250 2 stroke cant compete with these modern 450s. same with a 125 and a 250f. I love riding my 2 stroke but when it comes to lets say a LLQ il be riding a 4 stroke, faster on one and easier to ride. Love seing 2 strokes out there

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bvm111 8/9/2014 9:38pm
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The numbers are factory!!!!
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Darryl916 8/9/2014 10:47pm
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Kyriazis298 wrote:
Yeah 2 strokes are competitive but not with the double displacment rule. a 250 2 stroke cant compete with these modern 450s. same with a 125...
Yeah 2 strokes are competitive but not with the double displacment rule. a 250 2 stroke cant compete with these modern 450s. same with a 125 and a 250f. I love riding my 2 stroke but when it comes to lets say a LLQ il be riding a 4 stroke, faster on one and easier to ride. Love seing 2 strokes out there
I own both and your statement is the same way I feel. When I said it on here though people beat me down about it.
StartedTooLate 8/9/2014 11:09pm
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Kyriazis298 wrote:
Yeah 2 strokes are competitive but not with the double displacment rule. a 250 2 stroke cant compete with these modern 450s. same with a 125...
Yeah 2 strokes are competitive but not with the double displacment rule. a 250 2 stroke cant compete with these modern 450s. same with a 125 and a 250f. I love riding my 2 stroke but when it comes to lets say a LLQ il be riding a 4 stroke, faster on one and easier to ride. Love seing 2 strokes out there
You could allow 250 2 Strokes in the Lites class...and all the top teams would still run 250fs.

That Tyler guy nearly jumped into the face of the next jump. That was sketchy. Is that the 517 guy...?
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h&m_cycle 8/9/2014 11:11pm
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Don't get Honda, this bike could do some damage in the 250 class $12,500 smoker

love to see Freezie on one for the last couple up there. Have Terry Varner do some magic. 213 pound service Honda



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ML512 8/9/2014 11:20pm
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Kyriazis298 wrote:
Yeah 2 strokes are competitive but not with the double displacment rule. a 250 2 stroke cant compete with these modern 450s. same with a 125...
Yeah 2 strokes are competitive but not with the double displacment rule. a 250 2 stroke cant compete with these modern 450s. same with a 125 and a 250f. I love riding my 2 stroke but when it comes to lets say a LLQ il be riding a 4 stroke, faster on one and easier to ride. Love seing 2 strokes out there
StartedTooLate wrote:
You could allow 250 2 Strokes in the Lites class...and all the top teams would still run 250fs. That Tyler guy nearly jumped into the face...
You could allow 250 2 Strokes in the Lites class...and all the top teams would still run 250fs.

That Tyler guy nearly jumped into the face of the next jump. That was sketchy. Is that the 517 guy...?
That's him.
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mxjeff575 8/9/2014 11:58pm
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ML512 wrote:
Here he is on a four stroke. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/08/09/61953/s1200_Screen_Shot_2014_08_09_at_9.14.26_PM.jpg[/img]
Here he is on a four stroke.

That's frickin hilarious ! Well played.
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Racer92 8/10/2014 6:38am
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Get rid of the handicap rule (double displacment) and the tractors aint got shit for a smoker.

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ford832 8/10/2014 6:48am
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Up here 250 v 250 seems to be working well.Many privateer types are on the two strokes and great to see them out there.I haven't heard of anyone complaining either way so I don't really see what the problem would be.
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RangerLee 8/10/2014 6:51am
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ML512 wrote:
Here he is on a four stroke. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/08/09/61953/s1200_Screen_Shot_2014_08_09_at_9.14.26_PM.jpg[/img]
Here he is on a four stroke.

Aha, the pipe gives it away, I see what you did right there adding a 4 stroke Smile ....
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ML512 wrote:
Here he is on a four stroke. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/08/09/61953/s1200_Screen_Shot_2014_08_09_at_9.14.26_PM.jpg[/img]
Here he is on a four stroke.

RangerLee wrote:
Aha, the pipe gives it away, I see what you did right there adding a 4 stroke Smile ....
I added it, because that's the same guy. Laughing
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burn1986 8/10/2014 7:34am
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The 250 2-stroke is barely competitive with the 250F, much less the 450. Well, at least he's trying. The Fs are so boring compared to the 2s. It would be fun to see a good rider competing on one in SX. But, at the same time, it would only be a novelty. Cool pic and update, though GuyB
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Xeno 8/10/2014 8:10am
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ML512 wrote:
I added it, because that's the same guy. Laughing
I want to ask this as politely as possible:

Does that dude hold an AMA pro license?

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Matt Fisher 8/10/2014 8:19am
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ford832 wrote:
Up here 250 v 250 seems to be working well.Many privateer types are on the two strokes and great to see them out there.I haven't heard...
Up here 250 v 250 seems to be working well.Many privateer types are on the two strokes and great to see them out there.I haven't heard of anyone complaining either way so I don't really see what the problem would be.
"Reduced profits"- Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki.
Sir Roostsalot 8/10/2014 8:41am
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I counted 3 two stroke 250's in 450 class qualifying. One was a Honda which made it at least 7 years old. There was another guy on a KTM that actually looked dialed in and I thought he might actually qualify.
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loftyair 8/10/2014 8:48am
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Racer92 wrote:
Get rid of the handicap rule (double displacment) and the tractors aint got shit for a smoker.

Yep. Get rid of all displacement rules and stroke rules. 2 classes, both open to run what ya brung. Premier class pays, support class does too, but way less with just a small amount of publicity.
Sheriff245 8/10/2014 9:31am
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Sir Roostsalot wrote:
I counted 3 two stroke 250's in 450 class qualifying. One was a Honda which made it at least 7 years old. There was another guy...
I counted 3 two stroke 250's in 450 class qualifying. One was a Honda which made it at least 7 years old. There was another guy on a KTM that actually looked dialed in and I thought he might actually qualify.
I saw three KTM's?

That 517 dude looked like a novice out there.
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Outsider 8/10/2014 9:34am
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Damn, all Guyb has to do now is start a thread about the GP's vs Nats and he will have the trolling trifecta!! Woohoo
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Mr Bean 8/10/2014 9:36am
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h&m_cycle wrote:
Don't get Honda, this bike could do some damage in the 250 class $12,500 smoker love to see Freezie on one for the last couple up...
Don't get Honda, this bike could do some damage in the 250 class $12,500 smoker

love to see Freezie on one for the last couple up there. Have Terry Varner do some magic. 213 pound service Honda



The problem is that Honda painted themselves into a corner several years ago when they announced they were ceasing production of ALL 2-srokes (weedeaters, boat motors, etc) because they were committed to "saving the planet" - not because they weren't profitable, etc. They had a "moral" reason according to them.

Unless they come out and renounce their green religion and declare the planet is no longer in peril, I don't see them changing course and making smokers again.

Of course, they could always act like a politician - do it anyway and act as if they never said it. Grinning


Fact is, corporate Honda has never cared for 2-strokes. I read an interview with Mr. Honda back in the '70s in which he declared Honda "is a 4-stroke company".

I'm sure that interview is floating around somewhere.
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OW38B 8/10/2014 2:07pm
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ML512 wrote:
I added it, because that's the same guy. Laughing
Xeno wrote:
I want to ask this as politely as possible:

Does that dude hold an AMA pro license?
Seems so.... But the funny thing is, there were 4 riders on big 450's that were slower then him. Shocked
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seth505 8/10/2014 2:47pm
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That "national bike" makes my 250sx look like a factory whip!
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Xeno 8/10/2014 3:02pm
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OW38B wrote:
Seems so.... But the funny thing is, there were 4 riders on big 450's that were slower then him. Shocked
Well, he rode that beautiful motocross track, so he's doing something right! Smile
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Kyle978 8/10/2014 3:08pm
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GuyB wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/08/09/61950/s1200_GUYB2259.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/08/09/61951/s1200_GUYB1882.jpg[/img]




Wow...that's embarrassing.
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JA946 8/10/2014 3:29pm
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ML512 wrote:
Here he is on a four stroke. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/08/09/61953/s1200_Screen_Shot_2014_08_09_at_9.14.26_PM.jpg[/img]
Here he is on a four stroke.

Why is RD5 not wearing a redbull helmet? What happened to his visor?
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motomike894 8/10/2014 6:56pm
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I can't believe ama let that pass tech the numbers, bike, helmet then when saw him wearing that gear wtf lol

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