Trax shock. Vs. revalved ?

OR Racer46
Profile picture for user OR Racer46
Posts
1334
Joined
11/24/2014
Location
Eagle Point, OR US
Fantasy
876th
OR Racer46
Edited Date/Time 1/26/2016 3:29pm
Since everyone has been getting the cone valve forks. What have you been doing to
Balance out the rear ? Is the trax shock worth the expense vs just having the stock rear worked over ?
|
CarlinoJoeVideo
Profile picture for user CarlinoJoeVideo
Posts
7358
Joined
11/30/2013
Location
Portland/Los Angeles, CA US
Fantasy
2339th
CarlinoJoeVideo 12/12/2015 4:37pm
12/12/2015 4:37pm
I've never ridden a Trax shock. I've heard mixed reviews, some guys say it's the most planted they've ever felt the back end of a bike and I know guy who ride the Trax shock with the Trax system disengaged... So I donno? The high and low speed compression adjusts look cool though...Whistling
OR Racer46
Profile picture for user OR Racer46
Posts
1334
Joined
11/24/2014
Location
Eagle Point, OR US
Fantasy
876th
OR Racer46 12/12/2015 5:06pm
12/12/2015 5:06pm
Hmm. I don't really have a issue with my stock shock now. But I have never rode with a trax either. Just not sure it's worth the expense
imoto31
Profile picture for user imoto31
Posts
100
Joined
3/22/2009
Location
Payson, AZ US
imoto31 12/12/2015 5:08pm
12/12/2015 5:08pm
Had a trax shock on both linked 2stroke and 4. The dropout feature seemed to work better on the 2stroke keeping the rear wheel on the ground and hooking up. the shock was golden on both bikes once I got the forks figured out.
Lurk Ing
Profile picture for user Lurk Ing
Posts
192
Joined
3/13/2015
Location
AU
Lurk Ing 12/13/2015 2:30pm
12/13/2015 2:30pm
The drop out feature is gold in sand whoops for a planted rear end.

The Shop

See All »
Bruce372
Profile picture for user Bruce372
Posts
6341
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
US
Bruce372 12/13/2015 2:49pm
12/13/2015 2:49pm
Does anyone have pictures of how the trax works???
zehn
Profile picture for user zehn
Posts
7258
Joined
1/15/2013
Location
Anchorage, AK US
zehn 12/13/2015 2:56pm
12/13/2015 2:56pm
Bruce372 wrote:
Does anyone have pictures of how the trax works???
There's a video on the front page that explains the Trax mechanism
OR Racer46
Profile picture for user OR Racer46
Posts
1334
Joined
11/24/2014
Location
Eagle Point, OR US
Fantasy
876th
OR Racer46 12/13/2015 3:06pm
12/13/2015 3:06pm
I Moto. You had that on your 350 correct ? Do you think it was worth the cost difference. ? I could have my stock shock fully worked for less. But I have my eye on a used trax.
Bruce372
Profile picture for user Bruce372
Posts
6341
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
US
Bruce372 12/13/2015 3:16pm
12/13/2015 3:16pm
Bruce372 wrote:
Does anyone have pictures of how the trax works???
zehn wrote:
There's a video on the front page that explains the Trax mechanism
There's a video on the front page that explains the Trax mechanism
Thanks, cool video.

I am surprised the aftermarket haven't copied the cone valve for other forks if it works so well
OR Racer46
Profile picture for user OR Racer46
Posts
1334
Joined
11/24/2014
Location
Eagle Point, OR US
Fantasy
876th
OR Racer46 12/13/2015 3:31pm
12/13/2015 3:31pm
It's really tough to swallow over 5000 for suspension But. It cost me more than that for a week at Lorretas.
Thelen20
Profile picture for user Thelen20
Posts
1997
Joined
11/28/2009
Location
Marshall, TX US
Thelen20 12/13/2015 3:39pm
12/13/2015 3:39pm
I'll get back to you on that. . . will know in a few weeks!
imoto31
Profile picture for user imoto31
Posts
100
Joined
3/22/2009
Location
Payson, AZ US
imoto31 12/13/2015 4:54pm
12/13/2015 4:54pm
OR Racer46 wrote:
I Moto. You had that on your 350 correct ? Do you think it was worth the cost difference. ? I could have my stock shock...
I Moto. You had that on your 350 correct ? Do you think it was worth the cost difference. ? I could have my stock shock fully worked for less. But I have my eye on a used trax.
I had a trax on my'15 350sxf that you saw. Loved the shock... Saved my ass several times!!! The best thing you can say about the shock is you never notice it. It just does it's job!!! I picked that shock up on eBay sent it to wp services for setup, rode on it for a good season and sold it for about what I originally bought it for. Can't do that with a re-valve that will never be as good.
langhammx
Profile picture for user langhammx
Posts
8935
Joined
5/5/2011
Location
Santa Clarita, CA US
Fantasy
455th
langhammx 12/13/2015 6:49pm
12/13/2015 6:49pm
Buy the Trax, you'll thank me later....
lumpy790
Profile picture for user lumpy790
Posts
9256
Joined
9/18/2007
Location
York, SC US
lumpy790 12/13/2015 6:58pm
12/13/2015 6:58pm
OR Racer46 wrote:
It's really tough to swallow over 5000 for suspension But. It cost me more than that for a week at Lorretas.
please breakdown your LL expenses. I spend $5k to vend and that includes all expences.

OR Racer46
Profile picture for user OR Racer46
Posts
1334
Joined
11/24/2014
Location
Eagle Point, OR US
Fantasy
876th
OR Racer46 12/13/2015 7:30pm
12/13/2015 7:30pm Edited Date/Time 12/13/2015 7:36pm
It cost me 2000 just in fuel to get there. 400 for my foot print. Then entry fees for 2 classes ect ect. Fuel tires ect for my bike A weeks worth of food 3 days of driving both ways. 5000 is on the cheap. You could easily spend 7 to 10. Not everyone lives on the east cost . Forgot. I had to change my numbers and backgrounds also. It all adds up . Lumpy. We I will look for you at Mammoth this year and you can break down your expenses
imoto31
Profile picture for user imoto31
Posts
100
Joined
3/22/2009
Location
Payson, AZ US
imoto31 12/13/2015 7:36pm
12/13/2015 7:36pm
langhammx wrote:
Buy the Trax, you'll thank me later....
This... A re-valve of stock shock will never work as well plus you can sell the trax anytime and recoup most the investment.
lumpy790
Profile picture for user lumpy790
Posts
9256
Joined
9/18/2007
Location
York, SC US
lumpy790 12/13/2015 8:33pm
12/13/2015 8:33pm Edited Date/Time 12/13/2015 8:37pm
OR Racer46 wrote:
It cost me 2000 just in fuel to get there. 400 for my foot print. Then entry fees for 2 classes ect ect. Fuel tires ect...
It cost me 2000 just in fuel to get there. 400 for my foot print. Then entry fees for 2 classes ect ect. Fuel tires ect for my bike A weeks worth of food 3 days of driving both ways. 5000 is on the cheap. You could easily spend 7 to 10. Not everyone lives on the east cost . Forgot. I had to change my numbers and backgrounds also. It all adds up . Lumpy. We I will look for you at Mammoth this year and you can break down your expenses
$4k in fuel what do you get 4mpg with diesel? and it sounds like you were lucky enough to get a hook up.

would love to come out to Mamouth .... its on my bucket list!
OR Racer46
Profile picture for user OR Racer46
Posts
1334
Joined
11/24/2014
Location
Eagle Point, OR US
Fantasy
876th
OR Racer46 12/13/2015 8:48pm
12/13/2015 8:48pm
Ok this was not to discuss what it cost for me to go to LL. But pretty sure I said 2000 in fuel . It's a expensive trip . Now. Back to the trax . From the sounds of it it's a good shock
Ghost of Jabroni 12/14/2015 12:58am
12/14/2015 12:58am
OR Racer46 wrote:
Ok this was not to discuss what it cost for me to go to LL. But pretty sure I said 2000 in fuel . It's a...
Ok this was not to discuss what it cost for me to go to LL. But pretty sure I said 2000 in fuel . It's a expensive trip . Now. Back to the trax . From the sounds of it it's a good shock
It does sound like a great setup. But nobody has really answered your question. Which if I understood you correctly, was asking if it's really worth spending $4k more than a $1k fork/shock revalve to get the cone valve/trax shock setup.

I hate the suspension on my Husky. But it's poorly sprung for my weight and so it's only natural Im uncomfortable, especially since I used to have a Honda 250F that I spent about $1200 on the re-valve job with Factory Connection. Sprung right for my weight and with the lowering link, I fell in love with that bike. I will always regret selling it until I take the time to build a custom Husky that fits me the way that Honda did. Ive been lazy and havent done shit to fix up my Husky in 2 years (almost 200hrs) of riding it.

I'd like to think if I spent the same $1200 on another re-valve/lowering link for the 4CS forks on my Husky that I'd be pretty damn happy for a weekend warrior. How much happier am I gonna be if I spend $5k instead? As iMoto31 said, the re-valved shock will never work as well (of course it wont) but it's not like a re-valved shock is not going to be a big improvement that you or I might be really happy with?

Pit Row

See All »
philG
Profile picture for user philG
Posts
9710
Joined
5/12/2012
Location
GB
philG 12/14/2015 3:03am
12/14/2015 3:03am
400 for footprint ?? what the hell is that
OR Racer46
Profile picture for user OR Racer46
Posts
1334
Joined
11/24/2014
Location
Eagle Point, OR US
Fantasy
876th
OR Racer46 12/14/2015 5:23am
12/14/2015 5:23am
Thank you Jabroni. . As for LL I can start a new topic. And explain all the cost. If you guys that have not been would like to know ? But the 400 foot print is it cost 400 basicly to step foot on the property . They call it your foot print . I am
Not complaining in anyway about costs to race. Each race I go to. Cost from 500 - 1000 . Let me re phrase that. Each of the bigger races I know someone will say they go to there local races and they know the owner so they get in for free and only have to pay 25 bucks to ride 3 classes. And there 04 crf 450 has never needed a rebuild after 700 hours and after they get there x Mas money they are getting it all tricked out with Mulisha graffix .
slipdog
Profile picture for user slipdog
Posts
10044
Joined
7/25/2009
Location
Nor Cal, CA US
slipdog 12/14/2015 5:27am
12/14/2015 5:27am
OR Racer46 wrote:
Thank you Jabroni. . As for LL I can start a new topic. And explain all the cost. If you guys that have not been would...
Thank you Jabroni. . As for LL I can start a new topic. And explain all the cost. If you guys that have not been would like to know ? But the 400 foot print is it cost 400 basicly to step foot on the property . They call it your foot print . I am
Not complaining in anyway about costs to race. Each race I go to. Cost from 500 - 1000 . Let me re phrase that. Each of the bigger races I know someone will say they go to there local races and they know the owner so they get in for free and only have to pay 25 bucks to ride 3 classes. And there 04 crf 450 has never needed a rebuild after 700 hours and after they get there x Mas money they are getting it all tricked out with Mulisha graffix .
Mine is an '08 and I asked Santa for a sweet set of Monster Energy graphics for Christmas
OR Racer46
Profile picture for user OR Racer46
Posts
1334
Joined
11/24/2014
Location
Eagle Point, OR US
Fantasy
876th
OR Racer46 12/14/2015 5:39am
12/14/2015 5:39am
Slip those will shave 3 seconds. Easy. The 08 was the coveted year for honda. I bet your hook it account is off the chain . You training at Longfields this year ?
KTMShane699
Profile picture for user KTMShane699
Posts
1307
Joined
12/6/2013
Location
Colchester, CT US
KTMShane699 12/14/2015 5:46am
12/14/2015 5:46am
Ghost of Jabroni wrote:
It does sound like a great setup. But nobody has really answered your question. Which if I understood you correctly, was asking if it's really worth...
It does sound like a great setup. But nobody has really answered your question. Which if I understood you correctly, was asking if it's really worth spending $4k more than a $1k fork/shock revalve to get the cone valve/trax shock setup.

I hate the suspension on my Husky. But it's poorly sprung for my weight and so it's only natural Im uncomfortable, especially since I used to have a Honda 250F that I spent about $1200 on the re-valve job with Factory Connection. Sprung right for my weight and with the lowering link, I fell in love with that bike. I will always regret selling it until I take the time to build a custom Husky that fits me the way that Honda did. Ive been lazy and havent done shit to fix up my Husky in 2 years (almost 200hrs) of riding it.

I'd like to think if I spent the same $1200 on another re-valve/lowering link for the 4CS forks on my Husky that I'd be pretty damn happy for a weekend warrior. How much happier am I gonna be if I spend $5k instead? As iMoto31 said, the re-valved shock will never work as well (of course it wont) but it's not like a re-valved shock is not going to be a big improvement that you or I might be really happy with?
The thing is that if you can afford to put the money up front, when you sell your WP A-Kit suspension, you'll lose far less than the $1200 you spent on a revalve that you'll never recover a penny on. Initial cost, kit suspension is significantly higher. Value wise though, it's difficult to beat. I rode my Ohlins and lost about $400 from what I paid for it when I sold it. I had over that into Factory Connection Revalve, springs and parts even with the discount I received through work.

The other benefit is that depending on how often you get a new bike, you may be able to take your kit suspension to your new bike (provided you save your stock stuff). This saves you the trouble of going through the revalve and respring process all over again. Simply bolt your suspension to the new bike, set the sag and clickers and enjoy. That adds significantly to the value.

Food for thought.

Shane
OR Racer46
Profile picture for user OR Racer46
Posts
1334
Joined
11/24/2014
Location
Eagle Point, OR US
Fantasy
876th
OR Racer46 12/14/2015 5:50am
12/14/2015 5:50am
Shane I have a 15 now and it won't fit the 16. The forks will though. . I am on the fence as to going all in on my 15 that is like new. Or getting a 16 and kinda be behind the 8 ball for another year .
OR Racer46
Profile picture for user OR Racer46
Posts
1334
Joined
11/24/2014
Location
Eagle Point, OR US
Fantasy
876th
OR Racer46 12/14/2015 5:56am
12/14/2015 5:56am
And this has nothing to do with wanting to
Be a pro or anything like that . This is a personal achievement I want to give everything and have no excuses all in for 1 more year . Money is a issue I am
Working side jobs to fund this madness . I am leaning hard on doing the 4cs to Sss conversion
Moto520
Profile picture for user Moto520
Posts
3387
Joined
2/4/2013
Location
Schaumburg, IL US
Moto520 12/14/2015 6:52am
12/14/2015 6:52am
OR Racer46 wrote:
And this has nothing to do with wanting to Be a pro or anything like that . This is a personal achievement I want to give...
And this has nothing to do with wanting to
Be a pro or anything like that . This is a personal achievement I want to give everything and have no excuses all in for 1 more year . Money is a issue I am
Working side jobs to fund this madness . I am leaning hard on doing the 4cs to Sss conversion
I love the honesty! I have the cone valve forks and they are good.

Does anyone know the release date on the Traxx shock??/
KTMShane699
Profile picture for user KTMShane699
Posts
1307
Joined
12/6/2013
Location
Colchester, CT US
KTMShane699 12/14/2015 7:40am
12/14/2015 7:40am
Moto520 wrote:
I love the honesty! I have the cone valve forks and they are good.

Does anyone know the release date on the Traxx shock??/
Should be available now.

Shane
Lawrence929 12/14/2015 7:49am
12/14/2015 7:49am
I have both Cone Valve and Trax shock.

Not only are they easy to justify after taking a single lap, they are priceless once you hit a kicker on a face wrong and it doesn't send you over the bars to the hospital. (MUCH more expensive than $4k suspension)

My kit saved me a few times this year. If you are personally out of shape it is an even better investment.

It is the opposite of what people say, "Train hard, work on corners, THEN get an A kit"

NO. If you are out of shape or usually get arm pump, you will STILL be able to ride 2x the laps you normally will because the track has changed permanently. You will also find you are hitting sections harder than you would have. Because you aren't getting the feedback from the track like you used to which would have made you slow down.

Breaking bumps? What are those?
Kickers? Where?
Slick track? Man my back tire feels planted with the trax mechanism. (even on my 150 two stroke on hardpack)
Rolling whoops with kickers? Just hit them as hard as your balls will allow.


My Absolute Favorite part as a 30 year old though???

No sore back the next day. Yes dude, it smooths the track out that much. You are exercise sore, not rode-all-day sore. Who knew you could feel so good the next day?

Hope this helps...
Moto520
Profile picture for user Moto520
Posts
3387
Joined
2/4/2013
Location
Schaumburg, IL US
Moto520 12/14/2015 7:59am
12/14/2015 7:59am
Moto520 wrote:
I love the honesty! I have the cone valve forks and they are good.

Does anyone know the release date on the Traxx shock??/
KTMShane699 wrote:
Should be available now.

Shane
Who has them?
langhammx
Profile picture for user langhammx
Posts
8935
Joined
5/5/2011
Location
Santa Clarita, CA US
Fantasy
455th
langhammx 12/14/2015 8:03am
12/14/2015 8:03am
OR Racer46 wrote:
Shane I have a 15 now and it won't fit the 16. The forks will though. . I am on the fence as to going all...
Shane I have a 15 now and it won't fit the 16. The forks will though. . I am on the fence as to going all in on my 15 that is like new. Or getting a 16 and kinda be behind the 8 ball for another year .
FYI-
I know someone that sent their '15 TRAX shock to RG3 to have it modified to fit their '16. This wasn't an option until recently, but it sounds like they figured it out. The stick pipe will not clear the shock, but most aftermarket pipes should, from what I heard.

DISCLAIMER-
I am only basing this off what I heard, but I haven't heard what the outcome was yet.
Stay tuned.......

Post a reply to: Trax shock. Vs. revalved ?