Tracks that could be National tracks question

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Edited Date/Time 3/4/2013 6:51pm
I've been to all of the National circuits except Freestone but my track knowledge outside of these venues is somewhat limited.

Over the years I have seen Mammoth suggested numerous times but am curious what other tracks you think are National caliber and why?
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Bruce372 9/4/2011 9:49am
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motoland in indiana is easily national/GP caliber!

Their track is 3 miles long, nice loamy sandy dirt and not too far from a freeway.

they cut their schedule this year, but everyone in the midwest is hoping they are back in 2012/
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Sondy132001 9/4/2011 10:34am
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No Way Mammoth could host a national way too small of an area.

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GuyB 9/4/2011 10:36am
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Sondy132001 wrote:
No Way Mammoth could host a national way too small of an area.

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Agreed.
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CRFracer117 9/4/2011 10:43am
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Cycle Ranch in Floresville, Texas would be a great venue to host a national, but every rider would complain about the heat. Secondly Swan in Tyler, Texas would be another great addition to the outdoor circuit, but again there would be heat complaints. I have ridden and raced at both locations great viewing areas and great flowing tracks.

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I'm not sure if they have enough parking but ampMX is amazingggggg it has good dirt and gets rough as hell it was designed/managed by ex pro Matt Shue
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CRFracer117 wrote:
Cycle Ranch in Floresville, Texas would be a great venue to host a national, but every rider would complain about the heat. Secondly Swan in Tyler...
Cycle Ranch in Floresville, Texas would be a great venue to host a national, but every rider would complain about the heat. Secondly Swan in Tyler, Texas would be another great addition to the outdoor circuit, but again there would be heat complaints. I have ridden and raced at both locations great viewing areas and great flowing tracks.
Cycle Ranch is the dirt of the gods!
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Xeno 9/4/2011 11:57am
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Is there any track in the U.S. with steeper hills than Glen Helen?
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bring back the tracks as they where between 00-05, nowaday a track Hangtown sucks but in 03 it was so cool
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FreshTopEnd 9/4/2011 3:10pm
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Both Hollister and Sears Point (better facility for large crowds) could restore national worthy tracks. And, yes, the hills would be the measure of Glen Helen.

The two represent the choice dilemma. Sears (okay, Infineon, but I grew up with Sears) is a facility blessed with natural terrain, infrastructure, access from a couple major roads and relatively near a three airports (Sac, SF and Oakland). Hollister is more remote off a two lane highway, has less infrastructure and requires a bit of the core-moto mountain goat attitude to get to the track proper. Not sure the old GP track is really big rig accessible.

I think there probably are a lot of tracks that are pro national worthy, or readily so with some prep work, but which don't and can't realistically have the access, transportation hubs or infrastructure and space for fans and teams.
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cmess77 9/4/2011 5:20pm
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Xeno wrote:
Is there any track in the U.S. with steeper hills than Glen Helen?
Probably some similiar, but I doubt there are any steeper. Glen Helen needs to come back. Badly.
sbarrington314 9/4/2011 5:26pm
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it would be cool if they could change up tracks every couple years. like on year run one in florida. then next run one in carolina area. spread the love around the US.
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sozo 9/4/2011 5:30pm
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Gatorback Fl... bring it back!
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Xeno wrote:
Is there any track in the U.S. with steeper hills than Glen Helen?
cmess77 wrote:
Probably some similiar, but I doubt there are any steeper. Glen Helen needs to come back. Badly.
yes!
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FastEddy 9/4/2011 6:26pm
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What was the place in Alabama (I think)...that there was talk of possibly having a GP or National at back a few years ago?
Was that actually a track,or were they thinking of just building a track for this purpose....
The talk sorta just went away.

(On a side note.
Another thing I hope I live to see is....The MXoN's held at Washougal,just once. Smile )
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jmar 9/4/2011 6:29pm
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Sondy132001 wrote:
No Way Mammoth could host a national way too small of an area.

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And the forest nazis.
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jmar 9/4/2011 6:32pm
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Cycle Ranch is one of the best tracks that I have ever been to, and I have been to all of the National tracks also Rock.
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kripple428 9/4/2011 6:44pm
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FastEddy wrote:
What was the place in Alabama (I think)...that there was talk of possibly having a GP or National at back a few years ago? Was that...
What was the place in Alabama (I think)...that there was talk of possibly having a GP or National at back a few years ago?
Was that actually a track,or were they thinking of just building a track for this purpose....
The talk sorta just went away.

(On a side note.
Another thing I hope I live to see is....The MXoN's held at Washougal,just once. Smile )
They were supposedly building a national track at barber motorsports in AL not sure if it ever happened though

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WhipMeister 9/4/2011 7:00pm
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CRFracer117 wrote:
Cycle Ranch in Floresville, Texas would be a great venue to host a national, but every rider would complain about the heat. Secondly Swan in Tyler...
Cycle Ranch in Floresville, Texas would be a great venue to host a national, but every rider would complain about the heat. Secondly Swan in Tyler, Texas would be another great addition to the outdoor circuit, but again there would be heat complaints. I have ridden and raced at both locations great viewing areas and great flowing tracks.
X2. Didn't realize that they didn't hold races in adverse wether conditions.
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CRFracer117 wrote:
Cycle Ranch in Floresville, Texas would be a great venue to host a national, but every rider would complain about the heat. Secondly Swan in Tyler...
Cycle Ranch in Floresville, Texas would be a great venue to host a national, but every rider would complain about the heat. Secondly Swan in Tyler, Texas would be another great addition to the outdoor circuit, but again there would be heat complaints. I have ridden and raced at both locations great viewing areas and great flowing tracks.
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X2. Didn't realize that they didn't hold races in adverse wether conditions.
Yes, Swan is a national level track also. Both Swan and Cycle Ranch are very friendly to spectators.

Swan is hard packed, Cycle Ranch is sandy loam.

Both are well with in of some decent infrastructure.
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kripple428 wrote:
They were supposedly building a national track at barber motorsports in AL not sure if it ever happened though
Thanks for the info...

The stuff below is from 2008.


GPS: 33.533436,-86.612842
Description: Barber already holds some vintage dirt bike races and of course they hold superbike and car races on their first class roadcourse, but plans are moving forward to build one of the best motocross tracks in the nation. Here is a quote from a Birmingham News article from April 2008. "Ground for the motocross track already has been roped off in a clearing overlooking the existing paved course, and officials are beginning to study other dirt bike tracks in what Barber said is a plan to one-up the competition. Work on the track for motocross could begin later this year (2008). 'I want it to be the world's best," Barber said last week. "It can't be anything less.'"

The Barber Motorsports Park Motorcycle Museum, which is also located at this facility, is one of the finest motorcycle museums in the world.

This also..
http://www.al.com/news/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/news/121740572919…

Sounds like a good place for a national. Smile
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FastEddy 9/4/2011 7:41pm
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sozo wrote:
Gatorback Fl... bring it back!
backinthesaddleagain wrote:
Yep, rode it in '86. Loved dropping down into the quarry.
But really,does the nationals really need another sweat-box track in the series during the summer?
Seems like from May til the end up September it could & would more then likely be like Texas heat conditions...only more humid. Dizzy
Didn't gator back used to run in March...while the SX series was still going on
(when the series over lapped each other)?
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Slow 9/4/2011 7:43pm
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Xeno wrote:
Is there any track in the U.S. with steeper hills than Glen Helen?
Hollister full GP track.
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Sano97 9/5/2011 10:47am
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Id like to see them throw in a new track every year to mix it up.. the current 12 promoters would only lose a national every 12 years
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NP301 9/5/2011 12:49pm
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Hemonds Mx park & Mx 207!! both awesome tracks 2 min 30 secs for the pros at least
Chris O'Neal 9/5/2011 12:57pm
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Hemonds in Maine is the best track in New England. IMO

Problem is they are way up in MAINE!! Also they would have to extend out the track and have better all around viewing which would take lots of $$$
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JustMX 9/5/2011 2:31pm
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Some of you haven't been paying attention.

Pro tracks with over 2 minute laptimes are sooooooo 1990's

It's a conspiracy to take out a title contender that has bike problems with the stupid "a lap down" rule.

It came within 15 seconds of taking out the 2011 AMA 450 Motocross champion.....hehe

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